US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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This new ICE debate just really fucking pisses me off and puts me in doomer mode because both sides are wrong to varying levels, when even moderate liberals unironically think all illegals should stay here, we should have open borders, and how they keeping omitting the word "illegal" every fucking time they talk about it, as if ICE is also purposefully going after the legal immigrants on a mass scale, while MAGA, even if their core motive for the deportations IS reasonable, comes off as total authority-loving bootlickers for openly celebrating how brazen ICE has been allowed to become with how many times they have disrupted civilian life with the nationwide raids, because that amount of state-sanctioned aggression naturally gets even law-abiding people uncomfortable, especially in a culture that has always celebrated some aspects of libertarianism.

There seems to be no middle ground in mainstream discourse surrounding immigration anymore, you either go full libtard, or full authoritarian.
 
BigJoey41X said:
There seems to be no middle ground in mainstream discourse surrounding immigration anymore, you either go full libtard, or full authoritarian.
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The middle ground is to not let illegal immigration get this bad and actually enforce the law. ICE wouldn't have to be this strict or brazen if Biden's admin just kept Trump's deportations and border policy. Hell if they had Kamala probably would have had a better chance of winning
 
BigJoey41X said:
you either go full libtard, or full authoritarian.
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That's where you're wrong, fella. The loony left are the authoritarians trying to force invaders upon us through the state.
The right are actually the righteous cleansing their home land from a foreign parasite that is a cancer to its tax paying citizenry.
 
BigJoey41X said:
This new ICE debate just really fucking pisses me off and puts me in doomer mode because both sides are wrong to varying levels, when even moderate liberals unironically think all illegals should stay here, we should have open borders, and how they keeping omitting the word "illegal" every fucking time they talk about it, as if ICE is also purposefully going after the legal immigrants on a mass scale, while MAGA, even if their core motive for the deportations IS reasonable, comes off as total authority-loving bootlickers for openly celebrating how brazen ICE has been allowed to become with how many times they have disrupted civilian life with the nationwide raids, because that amount of state-sanctioned aggression naturally gets even law-abiding people uncomfortable, especially in a culture that has always celebrated some aspects of libertarianism.

There seems to be no middle ground in mainstream discourse surrounding immigration anymore, you either go full libtard, or full authoritarian.
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how about we throw them the fuck out
also you forgot to mention how you were a Trump voter "but..."
 
BigJoey41X said:
This new ICE debate just really fucking pisses me off and puts me in doomer mode because both sides are wrong to varying levels, when even moderate liberals unironically think all illegals should stay here, we should have open borders, and how they keeping omitting the word "illegal" every fucking time they talk about it, as if ICE is also purposefully going after the legal immigrants on a mass scale, while MAGA, even if their core motive for the deportations IS reasonable, comes off as total authority-loving bootlickers for openly celebrating how brazen ICE has been allowed to become with how many times they have disrupted civilian life with the nationwide raids, because that amount of state-sanctioned aggression naturally gets even law-abiding people uncomfortable, especially in a culture that has always celebrated some aspects of libertarianism.

There seems to be no middle ground in mainstream discourse surrounding immigration anymore, you either go full libtard, or full authoritarian.
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The thing is, when you use the word "bootlicker," the whole mask slips and we all see the truth. It's like if I went to a hypothetical JewFarms forum and made a both-sides effortpost, but included the word "kike." It screws it all up.
 
BigJoey41X said:
This new ICE debate just really fucking pisses me off and puts me in doomer mode because both sides are wrong to varying levels, when even moderate liberals unironically think all illegals should stay here, we should have open borders, and how they keeping omitting the word "illegal" every fucking time they talk about it, as if ICE is also purposefully going after the legal immigrants on a mass scale, while MAGA, even if their core motive for the deportations IS reasonable, comes off as total authority-loving bootlickers for openly celebrating how brazen ICE has been allowed to become with how many times they have disrupted civilian life with the nationwide raids, because that amount of state-sanctioned aggression naturally gets even law-abiding people uncomfortable, especially in a culture that has always celebrated some aspects of libertarianism.

There seems to be no middle ground in mainstream discourse surrounding immigration anymore, you either go full libtard, or full authoritarian.
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The middle ground is the sanctuary cities should cooperate with the feds so the feds don't have to be knocking on doors unless we are talking about major busts and for Frey to send local police to control mobs of lunatics obstructing the feds when they do act. There is no viable middle ground for the feds to both enforce the law and avoid the consequences of enforcing the law in the face of deliberate obstruction from state and local governments and a mob of lunatics.

It's not bootlicking to want federal agents to enforce laws we voted for. We are the ones in charge.
 
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As a teacherfag I consider it incredibly unprofessional to try and direct students on any controversial issue. I basically give them a "here's arguments for, here's arguments against, make up your own mind. My personal opinion is not relevant". Fortunately, in my area it doesn't come up too often.

I have seen some egregious examples of blatant indoctrination attempts though.
 
BigJoey41X said:
This new ICE debate just really fucking pisses me off and puts me in doomer mode because both sides are wrong to varying levels, when even moderate liberals unironically think all illegals should stay here, we should have open borders, and how they keeping omitting the word "illegal" every fucking time they talk about it, as if ICE is also purposefully going after the legal immigrants on a mass scale, while MAGA, even if their core motive for the deportations IS reasonable, comes off as total authority-loving bootlickers for openly celebrating how brazen ICE has been allowed to become with how many times they have disrupted civilian life with the nationwide raids, because that amount of state-sanctioned aggression naturally gets even law-abiding people uncomfortable, especially in a culture that has always celebrated some aspects of libertarianism.

There seems to be no middle ground in mainstream discourse surrounding immigration anymore, you either go full libtard, or full authoritarian.
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Pick your side:
A. Massive nigger rape white genocide
B. Pro authoritarian deportations and "christian" nigger legal immigration
 
BigJoey41X said:
This new ICE debate just really fucking pisses me off and puts me in doomer mode because both sides are wrong to varying levels, when even moderate liberals unironically think all illegals should stay here, we should have open borders, and how they keeping omitting the word "illegal" every fucking time they talk about it, as if ICE is also purposefully going after the legal immigrants on a mass scale, while MAGA, even if their core motive for the deportations IS reasonable, comes off as total authority-loving bootlickers for openly celebrating how brazen ICE has been allowed to become with how many times they have disrupted civilian life with the nationwide raids, because that amount of state-sanctioned aggression naturally gets even law-abiding people uncomfortable, especially in a culture that has always celebrated some aspects of libertarianism.

There seems to be no middle ground in mainstream discourse surrounding immigration anymore, you either go full libtard, or full authoritarian.
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Personally I support a great reset. Everyone is fucked off to the homeland of their predominant ethnicity. Those too mutt to figure that out get sent to brazil
 
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