US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Potentially Criminal said:
Under the 4th Amendment, your home cannot be entered by the government without a warrant.* A warrant must contain:
  • Be issued by a neutral and detached magistrate
  • Identify a specific place to be searched
  • Specifically identify who/what you are looking for
  • Contain an affidavit/sworn statement to support probable cause
This is an administrative warrant from ICE and I-205
View attachment 8457591

The first three categories are not actual judges. They are bureaucrats hired by the Department of Homeland Security and work for the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) and Immigration & Customs Enforcement (ICE). They handle all of these hearings and are considered "Article II Judges" meaning they are not what we normally consider to be a judge.

The last box for a Federal Judge or Magistrate is the only person who can issue a legitimate warrant. This form does not meet the requirements of a warrant that would allow you to enter someone's home.



*There are exigent circumstances but that's not what we're discussing right now.
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Wouldn't INS v. Lopez-Mendoza (1984) make this not ultimately matter, as the ruling states that the subject of a deportation hearing has no bearing on whether an unlawful arrest has occurred.
They could sue and probably win in the event of an unlawful arrest but it would not overturn their deportation and they'd still have to leave.
 
Useful_Mistake said:
Mayhaps that's why I critiqued that part of the statement?
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Maybe pulling a disingenuous reddit smuggie post is a heckin valid critique in your book, but brother, it ain't ever gonna be one in mine.

Whatever, I still like you. The greer threads would be a shadow of themselves without you.
 
JustSomeDong said:
Maybe pulling a disingenuous reddit smuggie post is a heckin valid critique in your book, but brother, it ain't ever gonna be one in mine.

Whatever, I still like you. The greer threads would be a shadow of themselves without you.
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Thank you, but I do think @AnOminous would ensure that it wouldn't be without content.
 
2020chan said:
Yes. Almost instantly, the people hanging around the busy intersections with signs and children, all disappeared in my area as soon as he won.
The area I'm in is multi cultural, mostly black, white and hispanic, but there are people from everywhere as I am not far from Chicago.

I have lived in the same area for over 30 years, and had NEVER seen as many obvious new arrivals pulling this shit. Being near Chicago, I am used to seeing people with signs, right? Black, white, brown homeless and junkies have always been a thing. You could mostly avoid the areas where this was most prevalent and it never reached the fucking Target store in the mid-income suburban location that I've been shopping at since it opened (over a decade).
Suddenly, during the Biden administration, "migrants" were fucking everywhere. On the roads on the way to the store, the turn-in for the parking lot and right outside the front doors. Mostly women with kids, sometimes grown fucking men. Fucking everywhere, I was so pissed. I'd watch them put their frowny performance face on to walk into the road at the red lights. Truly infuriating.

Now they're gone. That shit stopped instantly (in my area at least) after the 2024 election. As if the Biden administration paid them to annoy the shit out of everyone so they'd vote for Trump.
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I’ve seen these same kinds of people lingering around the Jersey City area, but now that you mention it, it has gotten markedly infrequent since the summer. Not as many fruit vendors accompanied by three year olds as there used to be, although the junkie problem is evergreen.
 
HarblMcDavid said:
I hate the optics, but I bow to the practical economics.

Even with pretty fast turnaround deportation from detention takes weeks, and I don't know off the top of my head what detention costs per head per day, but I'd guess it's more than $100, easily, not including detention personnel.

Then add in 2-5 ICE agents on the clock for a few hours each at a rate somewhere north of $50 an hour, immigration judges on the clock for over $100 and hour, lawyers for the government on the clock for over $100 an hour, and that's assuming there's no appeals which gum things up and require anyone with a higher paygrade and less time on their hands.

Even with these woefully inadequate lowball figures I think you hit $2600 by the end of a couple weeks if not way sooner. The main issue is making sure it's not easily exploitable and that's where I think the biggest problems would be since I've little faith that there will be enough manpower to adequately police that kind of thing effectively.
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I recall reading that the cost of a single individual being deported is a bit over $10,000.00, so paying them to leave on their own is a profitable venture.
 
mold said:
I vastly prefer of all races to do business with Chinese people because then everybody is clear that we are all here to make money.
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You're a fool. Every Chinese company is an arm of the Chinese government. Every year your company has to go before the CCP Board and explain how your company is beneficial to the CCP and their Communist Agenda. This is part of the process for renewing your business license in China. You cannot get a Business license in China without doing this or knowing somebody. If you think they're in it solely to make money, then you know nothing of China and you are incredibly naive.

mold said:
It's about houses and businesses
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Except those houses are made with cornhusks and literal garbage. You don't understand Chinese construction either. Buildings in China are purposefully designed with a roughly 10 year lifespan. During which they begin to collapse and fall apart, and occasionally kill everyone inside. They are only mean to last this long because the Chinese unironically view shoddy construction as good business practice. Why build a bridge that can last for 100 years when you can have it fall apart in 10, and get more CCP money to build a new bridge?

mold said:
Someone mentioned the insanely annoying trick of valuing the short term small gains no matter how scammy over building long term reputation for long term huge gains, and they associated this with Chinese people.
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I've done business with the Chinese all of my life. They suck. I have people I regularly do business with who's arrangement is purely to open a new company, run up a massive amount of debt and vanish into the aether. They then open new companies so they can screw over everyone again and then only pay for last year's bills. When you/they accumulate too much debt or too many invoices, then they vanish and fuck you. This is a regular business practice for these ass holes and they are, can, and will play you. If you think they are practicing good ethics, they are not and you just haven't been screwed hard enough yet. Give it time.

mold said:
it's not Chinese people that destroyed American manufacturing and created a market for that shit
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Yes it is, they do this shit literally all the time. You know nothing about China and from what I've gathered, you're incredibly reckless.
 
 
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BigJoey41X said:
what do you people think about Europe's leaders actually looking like they're standing up to Trump
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Trump threatened them with tariffs (a commodity he creates out of thin air) and they immediately ran to the table and start negotiating, moving the process closer to what Trump wants.

Then Trump says the tariffs are off, which costs him nothing. And now we live in a world with a "framework" on Greenland instead of a "no".
 
AnitaSarsleezian said:
When I was in my teens, if I was making a big purchase, like a keyboard, she'd insist on coming to the store with me. Not only would she get the price cut down, then she'd start with shit like, "And I know this thing needs sound cables. You're gonna give me some, right?" and "Doesn't this thing use those cards and stuff for sounds? You'll throw one in, right?" By the time we got to the register, you could see the look on the salesman's face that he's completely reconsidered a future in retail. He'd start ringing it up looking like he just wants to clock out early and forget the day, and then she'd hit him with, "You're not charging me tax, right?" Holy shit, I swear sometimes it was almost like a cartoon, like I thought the salesman was gonna pull out a huge wooden mallet and start hitting himself on the head.
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I think you might be related to Stephen Miller.
 
Party Hat Wurmple said:
You're a fool. Every Chinese company is an arm of the Chinese government. Every year your company has to go before the CCP Board and explain how your company is beneficial to the CCP and their Communist Agenda. This is part of the process for renewing your business license in China. You cannot get a Business license in China without doing this or knowing somebody. If you think they're in it solely to make money, then you know nothing of China and you are incredibly naive.
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The sooner the CCP falls apart the better.
 
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