🍗 Deathfat Kelly Lenza / LividLipids / softbodytendermind / ass_child / photopotamus - "Radical body liberationist”, Intentionally Repulsive, Uber woke middle-aged SJW influencer wannabe, doxed her former therapist for getting WLS, ate her way to heart failure

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I think this is a hard concept for people who aren't particularly religious. I am particularly glad they exist because they made Kelly a better person for awhile. Without them, she would have been doing all this, spreading disease and being someone else's problem for much longer. Sometimes people go through hard childhood and they become better than if they had good parents. Maybe they'll make a real difference. Maybe they'll do something that hasn't been done yet.

Kelly was a better person for awhile because she was a mother. That doesn't mean she was a good mother, but it was better it happened that way. There's this huge emphasis with this woke/left-leaning/LGBTQ thing that when you lean further into it, you become more "your true self," but I don't think people like Kelly are their true selves, and I don't think just because you're in your 40s and living like Kelly today means you are doomed to be the same person tomorrow. It takes work and commitment for cluster B types, but they can and do make real changes and lead good lives. And even of those who don't, some of their kids are great people.
Very often a pipe is just a pipe. Being a mother doesn't automatically make you a better woman. I also sincerely doubt she was ever a better person because of her daughters, perhaps she was just a little less shitty - but shitty nonetheless.

Her daughters will probably have a lifetime of dealing with the abhorrent consequences that come with having a being like Kelly as a mother. One can only hope they are strong enough to be able to live a good, fulfilling life, but as of now it seems to me to be a remote possibility.

I hope Kelly carries on living as she always wanted, i.e. to be a self-centred, disgusting, filthy, retarded, degenerate cunt, and stays as far away from her daughters as possible.
 
Also would like to take note of the very recent fetlife bio update. I knew she mentioned having a partner of sorts but I think it wasn’t fully official until recently. She still nuked her marriage for uhh.. whatever that thing is

"looking for submissive handlers or ponies for myself as a dominant pony"

I consider myself a rather worldly person, I've been in some freaky-deaky parts of the Internet, but this truly, truly haunts me. What could this possibly entail?

Is sub handler/dom pony like "Let me just bend over into the stall... Oh no, I fell in, now that BIG FAT pony is going to rape me with shir BIG FAT pony dick! Yes, Mixtress Pony, I will do whatever you say!" while Kelly tosses her head around pretending she has a mane?

And sub pony/dom pony? What the fuck? "Neigh! (I'm such a submissive pony slut!) Neeeeigghh! (I need some BIG FAT pony Dom to put me in my place!)" and it's just two fat dorkwads in bridles with coconut halves making horse noises at each other?

The mind boggles. :cryblood: I want to know, but I also really don't want to know.
 
Fuck this into the ground. This is some Omelas bullshit.

Children do not exist to better their parents or teach them a lesson or whatever else. They are human beings who deserved to be properly taken care of. These girls may very well be maladjusted and miserable for the rest of their lives (hopefully not) and their misery is not justified just because it briefly made the fat hog who incubated them "better" in some inscrutable, unverifiable way.
Remember how in the earliest pages of the Rodriguez thread, Dud argued that it was fine to marry 14 year old girls off to grown men as long as they were “simple” girls? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Anyway, regarding Kelly’s legion of bizarre fetishes, they’re all made worse by remembering that she has a BO sniffing fetish and so probably expects her hookups to be all ripe and vinegary when they meet up. If she did her pony play in an actual barn, the aromas could probably kill a horse.
 
"looking for submissive handlers or ponies for myself as a dominant pony"

The mind boggles. :cryblood: I want to know, but I also really don't want to know.
Yep, there are things that I can live a long and happy life without ever knowing.
 
Fuck this into the ground. This is some Omelas bullshit.

Children do not exist to better their parents or teach them a lesson or whatever else. They are human beings who deserved to be properly taken care of. These girls may very well be maladjusted and miserable for the rest of their lives (hopefully not) and their misery is not justified just because it briefly made the fat hog who incubated them "better" in some inscrutable, unverifiable way.
Everything should be done so the girls grow up to be successful adults. I believe the best, easiest way to do that for children involves making sure they are safe physically and psychologically, but that isn't the only way, and exposure to terrible things long before you should know about them isn't a guarantee they're going to grow up into not good people. Children aren't born to fix or redeem people, but children are born with a purpose. And I refuse to back up on that statement, even a little.

You rate me dumb because I speak the truth. You rate me dumb because the devil is a liar. All people have value. All people have a form perfect in the eyes of God without sin that part of the human heart is always longing back towards. Kelly just doesn't know how to ask for forgiveness. Maybe she never will, but that doesn't mean Kelly shouldn't have been a mother for awhile.

And nice literary reference! It isn't the first time I've had this specific short story brought up to me in different conversations. It gave me pause for thought, but those children have a lot of good things in their lives, outside of being Kelly and Jerry's kids and being fat. And if you, Kelly, and me were at a Ruby Tuesday's, isn't it funny we're all educated enough to know this short story, but Kelly would think she's the tortured child, rather than the child being representative of slavery, sweat shops. I just find that funny.

Just because you didn't win the lottery on parents does not mean you're doomed. It could strengthen their resolve. That happens to people. The people I like best went through their trials in life and came out improved overall. Improved doesn't mean they didn't come out with real problems, but having real problems doesn't negate that life is better without these people in it.

People should hear the truth spoken plainly sometimes. I see social media stuff and get recommendations for stuff on narcissism. (Perhaps I should take the hint. Lol.) Other people's actions hurt us deeply. It's not that I don't understand that a mom like Kelly can deeply hurt a person and they might never get better. It's just that things usually get better with generations.

That said, Kelly is fat and ugly and I would not have sex with her. She really shouldn't do all this weird gender and sex stuff having the kids. She shouldn't have fed them like that. I would love to sit down and talk to Jerry to find out what happened on his end, but that isn't going to happen. I am glad for her online documentation. She is an interesting case study of a person. I certainly want to know how the story ends for Kelly.

Sorry, but these were good posts I missed while in the middle of a 24 hour day that takes away my focus from the Farms. It's nothing earth-shattering, but I do get distracted.
Very often a pipe is just a pipe. Being a mother doesn't automatically make you a better woman. I also sincerely doubt she was ever a better person because of her daughters, perhaps she was just a little less shitty - but shitty nonetheless.

Her daughters will probably have a lifetime of dealing with the abhorrent consequences that come with having a being like Kelly as a mother. One can only hope they are strong enough to be able to live a good, fulfilling life, but as of now it seems to me to be a remote possibility.

I hope Kelly carries on living as she always wewanted, i.e. to be a self-centred, disgusting, filthy, retarded, degenerate cunt, and stays as far away from her daughters as possible.

I don't think the chance is that remote that they will come out fine. Kids are resilient. Kelly left while the kids are young. Going through having an abusive parent can really solidify bonds. Much better odds than if there was only a single kid.

What defensible religion says that individual humans (children, even) are merely a vehicle for some other person to benefit?

Answer: none.
People can and do suffer for others. No person is born just for that. It is better that two educated people had children and are growing up with a roof over their heads, enough to eat, and will likely go to college. It is good they kept Kelly out of the street spreading STIs for a couple years. All of that is a net positive and I am glad it happened. It is better than the timeline where there aren't the two little mini moons because Kelly was too selfish to have them in the first place.
 
Since we are speaking so much of the kids, one of them isn’t named Lauren is it?



But yes with no structure at home and none at her weird ass unschooling school, Kelly’s kid has an extra hard load to overcome.

I’m going to delete the PL once I get an answer just for the privacy of all involved whether it’s the same girl or not.
 
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Since we are speaking so much of the kids, one of them isn’t named Lauren is it?


I taught a kid online from the same shitty school she goes to, some unschooling school and I’ve always wondered! So I figured now was the time to bring it up.

I don’t remember the name of the parent though. Just that it was a girl named Lauren. The chances are probably like 1/100 (it’s a small charter school) but if it’s the same girl, she was a lovely, smart girl. She seemed a little alienated and lacked confidence though and really warmed up to getting support from me, like she needed it badly, more than most other children. I remember the parents in my case were arguing about sending her to that school. The dad wanted it but the mom didn’t cause they don’t give any homework or anything.

I’m not going to name the school even though it’s named earlier in the thread just for privacy for any child that goes there including Kelly’s kid.
But yes with no structure at home and none at her weird ass unschooling school, Kelly’s kid has an extra hard load to overcome.

I’m going to delete this post once I get an answer just for the privacy of all involved whether it’s the same girl or not.
IIRC their names are Ivy and Hazel
 
The kids were in regular public school, iirc. She took one out to homeschool, but I think put her back in after her Type 1 Diabetes diagnosis.
 
With all due respect Lonesome, the idea that trauma automatically makes you stronger and better is fucking bullshit. What it does do is increase the odds of major mental illnessness later in life. New research from Brown University backs me up on that (as does personal experience) along with the mental health issues, stress and trauma in women drastically increases your odds of developing at least one autoimmune disease in life.

Does it teach you how to survive? Yes, but typically in maladaptive ways.

Does it teach you how to get back up after being knocked down? Sometimes, but far from always. It's just as likely to end in suicide or crippling drug addictions, because the person just gives up. Or something in between.

CAN it make you a better person? Sure. Everyone is capable of becoming better. Does it always happen? Hell no. The opposite is true too, good kid from a good family ends up on drugs and in and out of prison. Sometimes those kids straighten out, many times they don't.

Does everyone have value? Absolutely, until death your possibility is endless. Are Kelly's kids automatically doomed? Fuck no, because you're right, they can be better and do better. Are they also automatically going to be better people? No, it's possible but in my experience with people who grew up with parents like Kelly it's more likely than not that they do not get better. Especially without the knowledge that they aren't broken, Kelly is. There's also varying degrees of better.

The first part of improving yourself is knowing that you should. Until I was 35 I didn't know my parent was a narc, I assumed I was the problem until I ran into a random website for children like me. Unless you have grown up in a dysfunctional home you can't understand how abnormal your birth family is until someone tells you that's fucked up.

A pretty common anecdote among children of toxic parents is the time they tell a friend a hilarious story about something that was actually abuse, the friend is appalled and that starts that person on a journey to heal.

I'm glad the girls are alive, because they are here and are precious because of that. I also think it would be better if they hadn't been born, because like I said up thread, being alive is great, but there's always this upward struggle to overcome my personal trauma and maladaptive coping skills and honesty, it's exhausting. Sometimes I find myself longing for the oblivion of death, not suicidal, just a subtle longing for it to be over so I can finally rest, go to heaven, be reborn, whatever comes next. It's hard to explain that passive longing without getting a welfare check called in.

In long, you've got some good points, and I applaud your optimistic outlook for the girls and respect and mostly agree with the religious aspect of it. But I also think you're kinda dumb, while hoping and praying that you're right and they succeed. But if they do it'll be in spite of Kelly, not because of it.
 
If we all stop responding to the evangelical hot-take generator and mute him then maybe he'll fuck off.
 
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Why do fat chicks always have those weird dark ring shaped marks on their ass?
Are those marks like, from friction?
I wondered about that too. Although some people with certain complexions seem to be discolored areas like that, even normal weight people
As this user pointed out…
I'm pretty sure it's just acanthosis nigricans, a common skin condition afflicting fatties in areas where their skin tends to rub together a lot like around the neck, under the arms, between the folds, etc. It causes the skin to thicken, and darken in color.
… which makes sense. It often forms rings - like the ones you’re seeing - or bands in skin folds such as the gluteal crease, inner thighs, groin, neck, and armpits. It’s associated with associated with:
  • Insulin resistance
  • Prediabetes or type 2 diabetes
  • Obesity
There’s also friction-related hyperpigmentation, which is caused by chafing, pressure, and skin-on-skin rubbing. Basically, over time, friction leads to post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation (PIH), which can look like a ring or band.

The term for the rash / mild chronic inflammation is intertrigo, which is caused by moisture and friction. It’s worsened by heat, sweat, and prolonged sitting, and the PIH it helps induce can remain even after the inflammation goes away.

Finally, there’s pressure and compression marks. These are blemishes caused by the pressure associated with sitting, tight clothing, swimwear, and elastic seams. All of these conditions are more common in fatties because fatties have more skin folds. Skin folds mean more friction and more moisture than normal. Fat people have higher rates of insulin resistance and the excess weight means more pressure on said folds.

Why do these conditions cause this darkening of the skin? Well, skin darkening (aka hyperpigmentation) happens when melanocytes (pigment-producing cells in the basal epidermis) are stimulated to: (1) produce more melanin, and / or (2) transfer more melanin to surrounding keratinocytes. Inflammation, hormones, and growth factors all affect and trigger melanocytes.

Mechanical pressure is another explanation. Friction+ pressure + moisture = repeated micro-injury. Keratinocytes release inflammatory cytokines (ex. IL-1, TNF-α, prostaglandins), and this causes low-grade chronic inflammation. Even when you don’t see redness anymore, inflammatory signaling persists, and so mast cells and macrophages release mediators, which in turn upregulate tyrosinase, a key enzyme in melanin synthesis. Melanocytes increase melanin output as a protective response. Keep fucking with your skin by turning it into a swamp or rubbing it vigorously, and it will start to prepare itself for your nonsense.

There’s also pigment “leakage”. Basically, there is damage to the skin’s basal layer, so melanin drops down into the dermis. Macrophages engulf them, and now we have dermal melanophages giving in your dermis. This makes pigmentation darker and longer-lasting. It also thickens skin, changes the skin colour to brown, and can produce a rough texture. In this situation, the pigment fades away slowly, but only if the irritation stops.

By contrast, acanthosis nigricans is not caused by inflammation of the skin. The core mechanism is hormonal, and relates to insulin resistance. Blood insulin levels rise - aka hyperinsulinemia, and so insulin begins binding to IGF-1 receptors on skin cells. This causes keratinocytes to proliferate and thicken the epidermis. Fibroblasts proliferate, melanocytes are indirectly stimulated, and pigmentation is increased incidentally. The darkness comes from thickness + light absorption + mild pigment increase, but not from melanocyte overreaction to injury like PIH described above.

Skin folds are more affected because they have higher insulin receptor density. Friction accentuates visibility, but is not the root cause, because this is a metabolic signaling disorder, not a damage response. Furthermore, they’re moist. Moisture macerates the stratum corneum, weakens barrier proteins in the skin (ex. filaggrin, loricrin), increases cytokine penetration, and allows microbial overgrowth (which, again, causes more inflammation).

Basically:
  • Friction/moisture hyperpigmentation is where melanocytes respond to injury and inflammation.
  • Acanthosis nigricans is where skin cells panic while responding to hormonal overdrive.
They create the same aesthetic symptom, but they start in different biological systems. The first is reactive / trauma-induced and the latter is endocrine-driven. That’s why weight loss helps acanthosis but is less useful in treating PIH. You can also have both conditions simultaneously and have them both darken the skin. Why is it on her butt? Because she sits down a lot.
 
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