Culture Among Savage Tribes - Napoleon Chagnon meticulously documented the customs of a tribe where violence was sexually rewarded. Some of his academic colleagues never forgave him for it.

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“Do you know what they’ve done to me, even though I’m a leading figure in my field? You’re in France and you want to study sociobiology or behavioural biology? You haven’t even been born yet and you’re already dead. Get out of academic life as fast as you can.”

Napoleon Chagnon wrote those words to me about twenty years ago. I was a student who’d recently become a science journalist, and I was so fascinated by his work that I envisioned pursuing a career that combined anthropology and biology, just like his. I’d written to ask him for help with a bibliography—and also to ask, “How can I become you?” Alongside the references he’d provided, he’d added this comment, like a lifebuoy made of lead. It wasn’t until fifteen years later, when I read historian of science Alice Dreger’s account and realised the full extent of the witch hunt mounted against him, that I finally understood what he’d been trying to tell me.

At first glance, Napoleon Chagnon didn’t seem to have the makings of someone who would become a household name in science. But, as his granddaughter, cinematographer Caitlin Mack, told me, his story makes far more sense when you see it as a tale of a precocious child who came from nothing and had a unique talent for making people jealous.

Born in 1938 in Port Austin, Michigan, into a poverty-stricken Canadian family of twelve children—he was called Napoleon after his grandfather and had a brother who was christened Verdun, further evidence of the family’s Francophilia—Chagnon was able to attend university thanks to his father’s meagre GI pension and to the string of odd jobs he accumulated from adolescence onwards: ambulance driver, land surveyor, labourer, delivery man... His only ambition was to provide for a future wife and children, so he embarked on a degree in physics and engineering. But the few weekly hours humanities in his curriculum changed everything. He fell in love with anthropology—as he details in his autobiography, Noble Savages: My Life Among Two Dangerous Tribes—the Yanomamö and the Anthropologists (Simon & Schuster, 2013).

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In 1964, while still a doctoral student, Chagnon set out on his first expedition to visit the Yanomamö, a tribe living in the Amazon rainforest, on the border between Venezuela and Brazil. Far from behaving like a mere anthropological tourist, Chagnon settled in, learned the language, and lived with and like them. He was to return to them every year, until this “fierce people” from the legendary Orinoco basin became his adoptive family. He was to undertake nearly thirty expeditions over the course of the following three decades, thus providing a rare window onto a primitive way of life that was tens of thousands of years old.

By 1965, Chagnon had already been awarded tenure by the University of Michigan, allowing him to dedicate himself to creating one of the most extensive and meticulous collections of ethnographic records of the twentieth century. In the field, he worked in spartan conditions—sometimes on the brink of starvation—studying the Yanomamö rigorously, methodically, and with an obsessive thoroughness. He mapped their lineages, established their genealogies and tracked conflicts, celebrations, alliances, and deaths. And while his colleagues favoured “narratives” and “qualitative” approaches, he was one of the first to bring in computers to sort, process, and structure his database.

He discovered that Yanomamö society was neither peaceful nor cooperative but held together by bloodshed and terror. Raids of rival villages were common, as was the killing of newborn babies. Women were exchanged, abducted, raped. The headmen were always, or almost always, killers, employing a brutality that wasn’t merely casual—it was systemic. With hard data to back him up, Chagnon showed that the most bloodthirsty warriors—the unokais—tended to have more wives and more offspring. In other words, among the Yanomamö, violence was rewarded with increased opportunities for reproduction. And since the strategy paid, it was widely copied.

On its publication in 1968, Chagnon’s monograph Yanomamö: The Fierce People was an immediate international success. It was translated into fifteen languages (though not into French), used in hundreds of anthropology departments, and sold millions of copies. It’s still one of the bestselling works of the discipline. Chagnon became a media darling and remained a leading authority in his field for over twenty years. But for some of his colleagues, his success was tantamount to a declaration of war. Behind the scenes, Chagnon had been making enemies. The early objections were theoretical: The dominant strand of anthropology at the time was inspired by Rousseau and Marx: “savages” were noble; violence was a by-product of colonisation or poverty. To claim that men fought over women rather than over resources and that this behaviour might even be rooted in biology was more than a provocation—it was heresy. To make matters worse, Chagnon could be arrogant—and not just about scientific matters. The man was a force of nature, a real iconoclast. Sarah Blaffer Hrdy describes her “Nap” as “a warm and good-natured man with a good sense of humour, but also endowed with a personality that might be described as ‘scrappy,’ even bellicose. He liked to provoke people.”

One of his favourite jokes concerned the difference between good and bad anthropologists: The good ones go out into the field, gather facts, construct a theory, and are ready to revise it, if necessary. The bad ones, on the other hand, cling to their theory and, faced with contradictory data, conclude they must have their numbers wrong. There was no need to spell out which side he believed he himself was on—or how he saw his detractors. And he had an even more cutting jibe, which he would trot out whenever he wanted to mock his former PhD supervisor and chief rival, Marshall Sahlins, who was convinced that parenthood in general and fatherhood in particular were purely cultural phenomena: he would remark that he was sure that the day his wife gave birth, Sahlins rushed to the maternity ward, happy to bring up any baby chosen at random from the nursery.

According to his granddaughter, Chagnon was like a little tyke who’d been knocked about a bit and was now eager to prove his worth. A working-class man with a liberal outlook, he’d been literally cut off from the world during the great cultural upheavals of the 1960s—he’d missed the “progressive” turn of the Western Left, which was already the dominant force in humanities departments full of people from far more privileged backgrounds than his. And his other mistake was believing that the rigour of his research and his devotion to the scientific method would be enough to protect him.

For a while, the war against Chagnon stayed within the normal bounds of academic controversy: people debated his methods, his “biological determinism,” his interpretations. But, from the 1980s onwards, things began to heat up and the conflict grew bitterer and more personal. Chagnon accused the Salesian missionaries, who were firmly established in the region, of political interference, distributing weapons, destabilising villages, and even spreading diseases. They never forgave him for his revelations—or for his op-eds in the New York Times, where he argued that their presence did more harm than good. By the 1990s, the various hostile parties had formed a strategic alliance. At American Anthropological Association (AAA) conferences, missionaries distributed “dossiers” of complaints against Chagnon and fraternised with his fiercest opponents. Scientific debate gradually gave way to agitprop, which was far more profitable. Chagnon was accused of peddling social Darwinism and harming indigenous peoples.

The year 2000 marked the publication of the book Darkness in El Dorado, written by Patrick Tierney, an author who described himself as “an anthropological journalist.” The book, which was accompanied by a lengthy article in the New Yorker, accused Chagnon of a horrifying litany of atrocities: triggering a measles epidemic in the Amazon by experimenting with a dangerous vaccine; refusing to treat the sick so he could observe how the virus evolved; arming rival factions in order to orchestrate conflicts; falsifying data, supporting eugenic theories, and generally behaving like a war criminal or even a genocidaire, all under the cover of academic research.

The indictment was so grotesque, so far removed from reality that it should have collapsed under its own weight. Not only were Chagnon’s research findings robust, but he had always been careful to protect the Yanomamö—for instance, by concealing his data on infanticide, fearing that the Venezuelan government would use it as a pretext to expropriate indigenous people. Right up to his death, he remained haunted by a massacre of Yanomamö carried out by gold prospectors and by his inability to secure justice for the victims when he served on a presidential commission that was swiftly disbanded in 1993. But by now, the stage had been set, and, as always with witch hunts, the bigger the lie, the more readily it was believed. Two prominent American anthropologists, Terence Turner and Leslie Sponsel—long-standing opponents of Chagnon’s—were quick to amplify the accusations. Before Tierney’s book even came out, they had already sent the AAA a letter comparing Chagnon to Mengele. When this letter was leaked to the press, the media had a field day, and—instead of defending one of its most distinguished members—the institution panicked and launched an investigation.

Everything in Darkness in El Dorado was either false or seriously misleading. The vaccine Chagnon had used was compliant with WHO protocols. The measles epidemic had started before Chagnon arrived in the field. Venezuelan doctors, the Rockefeller Foundation, the University of Michigan, the US Department of Health—they all investigated the allegations and reached the same conclusion: there had been no crime, no cover-up. But it made no difference. The AAA commission held hearings, rewrote reports, redacted documents, and politicised everything. Inconvenient facts, such as the conflict of interest caused by Turner’s involvement with the Salesians, were hushed up. Since they couldn’t make any of Tierney’s accusations stick, they decided to find something else to blame Chagnon for: having “disrupted” Yanomamö life, having been too scientific, not compassionate enough.

The entire exercise was as anti-scientific as possible and it enraged many scholars, some of whom resigned from the AAA on the spot. Among them was Raymond Hames, who nonetheless recommended Sarah Blaffer Hrdy to the commission. She declined the invitation and resigned herself. More than twenty years later, she still has vivid memories of this cold-blooded character assassination. “I read the brief that was to guide the committee and realised that this was a set up, that the conclusion could not be other than ‘guilty,’” she told me. “The problem was that back in the 1960s when Nap first went out to study the Yanomamö he thought he was signing on to do scientific research. Over the course of his career, the ‘rules’ changed. This transformation can be summed up in something one of Chagnon’s critics proclaimed at the time, which I have never forgotten: ‘We don’t do science, we do good.’ All very nice, but that’s not what Chagnon had signed on for so if the committee was supposed to find out whether or not Chagnon was working to help the Yanomamö, the only honest answer would have to be ‘No. He was there to do research.’ I wanted no part of that travesty.”

Two years later, the commission issued a report that cleared Chagnon of the most serious charges, while reprimanding him for things that are ethical lapses by today’s standards but were normal at the time. Shortly beforehand, Blaffer Hrdy received a strange letter from Jane Hill, the commission’s chair: “Burn this message. The book is just a piece of sleaze, that’s all there is to it (some cosmetic language will be used in the report, but we all agree on that). But I think the AAA had to do something because I really think that the future of work by anthropologists with indigenous peoples in Latin America—with a high potential to do good—was put seriously at risk by its accusations, and silence on the part of the AAA would have been interpreted as either assent or cowardice. Whether we’re doing the right thing will have to be judged by posterity.”

Napoleon Chagnon died on 21 September 2019, at the age of 81. At the end of his autobiography, Chagnon apologises for the increasingly “depressing” tone of his writing, overwhelmed as he was by “the lingering stench” left by the “scandal [that] exploded in the national and international press.” He had just been elected to the National Academy of Sciences (NAS), an honour comparable to a Nobel Prize, but he preferred to enumerate all the things the witch hunt had prevented him from doing: “I did not travel much, did not fish much, did not hunt grouse and pheasants over my German shorthaired pointers, did not go to many concerts, did not read much fiction for pleasure, and did not spend much time with my family.”

See also: https://quillette.com/2019/10/05/the-dangerous-life-of-an-anthropologist/
 
Among them was Raymond Hames, who nonetheless recommended Sarah Blaffer Hrdy to the commission. She declined the invitation and resigned herself.
Presumably her presence on the commission wouldn't have changed much, but I've never understood not taking a position, or even resigning, when that role might help you move the needle at least slightly on the outcome. If all the upstanding researchers leave, all you have left are the ideologues.
if the children of second and third wives survived to reproduce themselves
It's pretty amazing how primitives behave in ways that don't make sense even when following the logic of natural selection.

The evolutionary point of second and third wives is to spread your genes farther and wider, but, if those wives' children don't survive to reproduce, it's totally pointless. And this shows why *civilized* peoples practice mostly monogamy with occasional affairs (or concubines in yesteryear).

And of course anthropologists are hostile to genuine research, because, if they were honest, they'd have to admit that primitives live the way they do because they engage in behaviors that are incompatible with civilization.
 
The evolutionary point of second and third wives is to spread your genes farther and wider, but, if those wives' children don't survive to reproduce, it's totally pointless. And this shows why *civilized* peoples practice mostly monogamy with occasional affairs (or concubines
What has been shown in study after study and comparisons of monogamy vs polygyny is that on a societal level, it really doesn't. Primarily because polygyny significantly increases childhood mortality rates. Human babies and children are the most biologically needy- meaning they're born underdeveloped and helpless, need an extraordinary amount of parental care and resources, spend that way for an extremely long period of time and basically die if they don't have at least two parents- babies that have ever been seen in any species ever. A man's resources, both in terms of money and material possessions, but also paternal care and his time, decrease with each wife and child he has. In addition, polygyny increases familial violence, abuse, and conflict, as well as creating excess males, which strongly correlates to increased societal violence and warfare. All of this combines and compounds and it ends up looking something like Mohammed Durka has 2 wives and 22 kids, but 8 die from childhood disease, 2 are killed when the village is attacked, 4 starve to death in the subsequent famine, and one of your younger son kills his brother so that he can become your heir, but then another son kills him. In the end, you come out with 6 children that actually make it to adulthood and reproduce themselves, which is at or below the average for monogamous William Smith with his one wife.
 
What has been shown in study after study and comparisons of monogamy vs polygyny is that on a societal level, it really doesn't. Primarily because polygyny significantly increases childhood mortality rates. Human babies and children are the most biologically needy- meaning they're born underdeveloped and helpless, need an extraordinary amount of parental care and resources, spend that way for an extremely long period of time and basically die if they don't have at least two parents- babies that have ever been seen in any species ever. A man's resources, both in terms of money and material possessions, but also paternal care and his time, decrease with each wife and child he has. In addition, polygyny increases familial violence, abuse, and conflict, as well as creating excess males, which strongly correlates to increased societal violence and warfare. All of this combines and compounds and it ends up looking something like Mohammed Durka has 2 wives and 22 kids, but 8 die from childhood disease, 2 are killed when the village is attacked, 4 starve to death in the subsequent famine, and one of your younger son kills his brother so that he can become your heir, but then another son kills him. In the end, you come out with 6 children that actually make it to adulthood and reproduce themselves, which is at or below the average for monogamous William Smith with his one wife.

Yeah, I agree. If it didn’t work as well/better, it would have been selected out.

The one that always has me scratching my head is Indian women who throw themselves on a pyre if the husband dies. Most cultures do the opposite and either allow (or compel, in the case of Judeo-Christian culture) the widow to remarry.
 
Oh, so he will lie and cover things up, but only for good reasons, so you should trust him.
If you ever want to read great reports about any native peoples. Read from minor soldiers that didn’t get their letters censored. Lot of them might exaggerate some shit, but a lot of them took time to write the letters and it usually confirms higher up reports. Yeah, Stone Age savages kill prisoners and regularly torture people. They didn’t develop concepts of diplomacy of ransoming a daughter to try to ally another tribe. They understand a retarded version of the Melian Dialogue.

It’s why people fighting third worlders and Stone Age revert to summary executions. A 1st world or 14th century concept of morality doesn’t exist to them. Summary executions were a thing because false surrenders were common and can 5 guys really march 12 captives back to base?

He was a moron. He was a tranny who was blinded by how upset he was that he almost cut his dick off.

His writings are interesting but highly artificial.
I think a lot of it was that he was high IQ enough to realize what the problems were and articulated them in a way I find interesting. I disagree with his solutions and do think he was part of MKUltra or some glow-op where they fucked with him.

If he was I can respect the tranny bullshit because glow niggers tried to make him a faggot and he resisted.
 
Yeah, I agree. If it didn’t work as well/better, it would have been selected out.
This was actually one of the founding questions that lead to the field of anthropology. European and American intellectuals were extremly worried that the Muslim Ottoman Empire would outbreed them and overwhelm them with sheer numbers, and there was some puzzlement about why that hadn't already happened. After all, they had harems of wives and concubines and 30 kids each and had a huge army of unmarried men and Janissaries. When widespread modern-style census' became a thing, especially in British colonies, they got their first clue- most colonial territories were less densely populated than comparable areas in Europe. Then at the turn of the century when people figured out childhood mortality and started measuring it, they looked again at the colonies and found out- these people's kids drop like fucking flies! And everything since then has reinforced this biological fact.
 
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The one that always has me scratching my head is Indian women who throw themselves on a pyre if the husband dies. Most cultures do the opposite and either allow (or compel, in the case of Judeo-Christian culture) the widow to remarry.
Women are not compelled to remarry in the Christian faith. Even the Israelites didn’t compel women to remarry, the thing in Deuteronomy was an obligation for the brother-in-law to marry her. There’s no punishment proscribed for the woman if she refuses to marry him.

As for funeral pyres surely it’s done out of coercion. I met an aboriginal woman once who was from out of town. She showed us her scars and said she was running away from Alice Springs because her husband died so now his family wanted to kill her, as was their tradition.
 
Most natives are definitely not the peace loving innocent dindus that modern anthropologists paint them.
It should also be noted that these hunter-gatherer and horticulturalist societies that survive to this day are primitive because they're made up of violent retards who live on marginal land (because everybody slightly more civilised bashed their heads in when they tried tomove anywhere else).
 
Women are not compelled to remarry in the Christian faith. Even the Israelites didn’t compel women to remarry, the thing in Deuteronomy was an obligation for the brother-in-law to marry her. There’s no punishment proscribed for the woman if she refuses to marry him.

As for funeral pyres surely it’s done out of coercion. I met an aboriginal woman once who was from out of town. She showed us her scars and said she was running away from Alice Springs because her husband died so now his family wanted to kill her, as was their tradition.

Yes you’re right, the woman got to refuse the marriage by doing some sort of formal rejection ( the shoe throwing thing), so it wasn’t forced, just strongly encouraged. Still wildly different from “go throw yourself on a pyre” lol

wtf that’s hideous that it is not just India :(
 
Yes you’re right, the woman got to refuse the marriage by doing some sort of formal rejection ( the shoe throwing thing), so it wasn’t forced, just strongly encouraged. Still wildly different from “go throw yourself on a pyre” lol
No that was the male’s punishment: they take off his sandal, spit in his face, then tell everybody to remember his family sucks forever or something. There is nothing for the woman if she refuses (because it’s assumed to be to her favour) but I think they just do the same process of spitting on the guy to close it out.
 
Women are not compelled to remarry in the Christian faith. Even the Israelites didn’t compel women to remarry, the thing in Deuteronomy was an obligation for the brother-in-law to marry her. There’s no punishment proscribed for the woman if she refuses to marry him.

As for funeral pyres surely it’s done out of coercion. I met an aboriginal woman once who was from out of town. She showed us her scars and said she was running away from Alice Springs because her husband died so now his family wanted to kill her, as was their tradition.
Julius Evola mentioned it's just the woman's role in submitting to the patriarchal order - her husband is to be viewed as her lord in a literal sense, so when he dies, she dies, so to speak. Something akin to the Roman slaves who kill themselves with their masters. It could be religious mumbo jumbo so the family or community won't have to look after her.

The Christian church actually benefits from the widow not remarrying since they could potentially snag her property and wealth if she's from the upper class, and if you were poor, it kept you bound to the church, like the welfare queens of the current day and the modern welfare state, while the ancient Jews just transferred the burden to the closest "lord," which would naturally be the brother.
 
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A working-class man with a liberal outlook, he’d been literally cut off from the world during the great cultural upheavals of the 1960s

I've seen this happen on a less spectacular level with a number of Canadian and American men who spent significant time in Asia in the 80s and 90s. They came back and acted normal about all the crazy woke shit with hilarious results. I guess this is probably less of a thing with the internet.
 
It should also be noted that these hunter-gatherer and horticulturalist societies that survive to this day are primitive because they're made up of violent retards who live on marginal land (because everybody slightly more civilised bashed their heads in when they tried tomove anywhere else).
It's because their societies are from thousands of years before writing, and are ridiculously stable, so they have often been around for tens of thousands of years, and they're savages because shit was savage back then. They're like coelecanths, living fossils.
 
Fun book, btw.

Another good one covering similar ground is Lawrence Keeley's War Before Civilization.
I have that in in hardcopy to ensure I always have it.
Oh, so he will lie and cover things up, but only for good reasons, so you should trust him.
Lol he had a soft spot for the savages
An actually interesting read.
Most natives are definitely not the peace loving innocent dindus that modern anthropologists paint them. Quite the contrary.

But don't let the truth get in the way of the sacred ideology. What, are you an intolerant bigot or something?
Yep, most stone age tribes are insanely violent
Anthropologists seem to all be in it in order to alleviate guilt over their own psychosocial deviance.

Whenever I hear an anthropologist tell me that yeah well the Iroquois did eat people but you don't understand, it wasn't for nutrition/flavor or as punishment, there was deep spiritual significance to it, I want to check their hard drives.
Lol yep. They worship violent primitives
I had a friend who was a anthropology minor and I took some Antrhopology of Religion classes, it's a very pozzed field. It is an interesting note that Ted Kacynksi had a following out with John Zerzan over a similar faultline. Kacyznski eventually came to the conclusion that Zerzan was a retarded leftist who thought returning to tribal, hunter-gathering systems would bring about 100% wholesome communism. Kacynski was maybe an Anarchist but he wasnt a primitivist, he had no delusions that the collapse of the industrial system would result in horrors unthinkable, because he read pre-1970 antrhopolgical studies, he just thought it was still worth breaking.
Fascinating
Oh shit that tribe Max Brooks used in World War Z was real. Huh.
Holt shit Max Brooks went on a massive, immersion breaking rant about this in Devolution while at the same time shitting on Mel Gibson's Apocalypto
Flashbanged my frontal cortex with this reference. Nice.
Read his book "Devolution" and his seething hatred of Apocalypto and Mel Gibson will flashbang you again.... Oh and those evil right wing gun nuts and the "totally not Trump" administration
 
If you think that violence being sexually rewarded is a cultural trait exclusive to the Yanomamö, I encourage you to do your own anthropological research and watch the domestic violence docket in an American state court.
 
It's because their societies are from thousands of years before writing, and are ridiculously stable, so they have often been around for tens of thousands of years, and they're savages because shit was savage back then. They're like coelecanths, living fossils.

there is zero reason to believe this

it's just as likely that huntergatherers are descendants of pastoralists run off good land by more successful pastoralists and farmers, who forgot animal husbandry when they got run off all the land that could support it
 
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