Canada is a failed state

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Rainbows on this one, and that's with the lower signature count requirement. They will meet it, but most of the support will come from rural and suburban/commuter communities and those won't be canvassed all too quickly.

Also suspect this referendum petition will prove moot since the running expectation is Smith will require a plebiscite on Lukaszuk's own petition which then forces a public vote anyway. Hilariously ironic a pro-Canadian petition will trigger Alberta's first independence vote.
Honestly I expect that once they start putting up booths they will get massive lines of people signing.

I think the Clarity act requires an unambiguous petition to the point where the lolcow petition won't count to making a secession vote but I could be wrong
 
I think the Clarity act requires an unambiguous petition to the point where the lolcow petition won't count to making a secession vote but I could be wrong
Incorrect, and that's specifically because the Clarity Act is untested. What it states in theory is that the question must solely reference secession and that Parliament has the power to decide if the aforementioned point is met and if a "clear majority" (the biggest caveat) voted in favour. Also any successful referendum requires an amendment to the Canadian constitution to take effect.

In practice this means Ottawa will benevolently permit such referendums with no complaint as long as it can to avoid upsetting the apple cart and quietly focus instead on getting a majority rejection of the question. You will sure as hell see issues if such a referendum is successful because no federal government will meekly accede to a province leaving (guess what happens to Canada as a concept after that) and plenty of provinces will throw up hurdles to such a constitutional amendment to eke out their own benefits.

It's really a race to see which of Alberta and Quebec see the first majority affirmation of secession because that's the point the wheels fly right off our ramshackle confederation.
 
Incorrect, and that's specifically because the Clarity Act is untested. What it states in theory is that the question must solely reference secession and that Parliament has the power to decide if the aforementioned point is met and if a "clear majority" (the biggest caveat) voted in favour. Also any successful referendum requires an amendment to the Canadian constitution to take effect.

In practice this means Ottawa will benevolently permit such referendums with no complaint as long as it can to avoid upsetting the apple cart and quietly focus instead on getting a majority rejection of the question. You will sure as hell see issues if such a referendum is successful because no federal government will meekly accede to a province leaving (guess what happens to Canada as a concept after that) and plenty of provinces will throw up hurdles to such a constitutional amendment to eke out their own benefits.

It's really a race to see which of Alberta and Quebec see the first majority affirmation of secession because that's the point the wheels fly right off our ramshackle confederation.
Honestly it's useful how Quebec and Alberta have such different situations. To prevent Quebec from leaving they made it so that they would have to pay back equalization payments. But since Alberta paid more Canada will have to pay them when they leave. But dropping that requirement would make it easier for Quebec to leave - and Alberta will likely still leave anyways.
 
The Canadian navy getting designated a terrorist organization by Iran for being rude is the most masculine moment that country's had in years
 
Louis-Alexandre and his husband are the proud adoptive parents of a wonderful son. They enjoy the excitement of outdoor activities and all the family amenities that the great city of Ottawa has to offer.
Lol icing on the cake. Thank you for the effort post.
The honest, factual, truth is that leftist ideology stems from primarily two origins, Christian communitarian monastic life, and the French Revolutionary forces. The problem with the modern left today is that the majority are not at all guided by Christian morality and traditions, which means that their ideas stem from the French Revolutionary idea of destroying hierarchies and traditions.
>Christian morality
Good joke
I've become pretty accustomed to the idea of the left being the true successor ideology to Christianity. Despite the antagonism between the two the underlying principles really are the same. Give yourself up for others; alleviate suffering at all cost but also idolize it; tax collectors and prostitutes enter heaven before the rich; atone for sin before the Final Judgement/pay taxes for climate change. Both can and have justified moving between obedience and rebellion.
 
Has anyone talked about the Conestoga situation yet? If so, I think it's worth repeating...

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"The union representing Ontario college faculty and support staff, OPSEU/SEFPO, is calling for immediate intervention by the province after Conestoga College issued nearly 400 lay-off notices last week."

Cuts to immigration have been straining a slew of local colleges as of late, leading to staff and program cuts. The downsizing has affected Fanshawe College as well. Many in post-secondary education are feeling the heat.
 
Has anyone talked about the Conestoga situation yet? If so, I think it's worth repeating...

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"The union representing Ontario college faculty and support staff, OPSEU/SEFPO, is calling for immediate intervention by the province after Conestoga College issued nearly 400 lay-off notices last week."

Cuts to immigration have been straining a slew of local colleges as of late, leading to staff and program cuts. The downsizing has affected Fanshawe College as well. Many in post-secondary education are feeling the heat.
Suffah Conestoga
 
We owe a lot to the Partis Quebecois actually for keeping the St. Lawrence river valley the Whitest populated region in Canada because they're French ethno-nationalists. The rest of Canada has no such protections.

I mean, they love to throw around stats like this:

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But they don't really consider the full context of the era in which the majority of these schools operated. A hundred years ago, kids basically just died all the goddamn time
It's funny because 1/25 actually sounds about right, if you were to put a gun to my head and ask me to predict what the death rate was. That's roughly one per classroom in most developing nations, which would seem very low for a time-frame that preceded mass inoculation and disease eradication. Most of these reservation schools were generally small, so having one or two students die is perfectly reasonable. They weren't a short trip away from the emergency room and modern care, they were often times in rural areas where the teachers played the parts of parents and doctors lacking modern medicine. Even a cold could ravage a school in those days.
I do not understand the obsession with allowing these parasites access to all the privileges that aren't even open to natives during this process. Even if you wanted to be a bleeding heart, it would cost 90% less to fly them back home and stick them up in a tent on the embassy grounds in New Delhi before giving them a pass to pillage your coffers.
ANY government job; police, politician, judge, etc. You'd think it would be the most basic fuckin requirement, but nooooo. How they didn't pass a law to make it a requirement in the 40s, 50s or 60s is beyond me. Absolute morons.
Because they did not predict their offspring would vote to abolish Canada and everywhere else in the West. They believed it was simply a given that the people of Canada would make Canada a Canadian country, and not a colony of Sikhs and Hindus. They believed the idea of Canada would have held legitimacy, as it did for them, rather than considering itself a blight on the world that needed ending.
Do I want someone to get citizenship who never resides in the country, or only returns for tax purposes so they dont lose their healthcare? No. This is unpopular, but I also think that citizenship should be tied to residency.
Democracy only works in a homogeneous society.
Fundamentally citizenship should be for the originating stock of the country, and no others. Anyone who is Anglo or French Canadian or from a recognized Canadian tribe should be able to leave and enter Canada at will. Likewise, any Anglo-descendant should be able to return to Britain, and the French Canadians to France. People outside this stock should never receive more than revocable residency, subject to meeting strict requirements, however their children may receive citizenship if at least one parent had it through heritage. If you are eligible for citizenship elsewhere (eg: Anglo-Candian father, Indian mother) then you can only choose one citizenship. I'd recommend a system where the child is able to choose between 18 and 21 which they want and it cannot be reversed. Retain citizenship or be deported. Citizenship is not granted to parents for having a citizen child.

The solution to using up the benefits of the welfare state and then jet-setting off to your country of choice afterwards would be simply to have a buy in process. You shouldn't be able to receive housing assistance, unemployment, state healthcare, etc, without having paid into the system for a time or value threshold. This would apply if you have ever had residency elsewhere prior to coming to Canada, eg: $250,000 total within a five period, $10,000 per year for 10 years, or for 15 years total. You can fumble at the margins, but the idea is that you can't receive tax money without having sufficiently paid into the system or without having spent so long in Canada that you developed genuine roots.

You would get the benefits of an exclusive citizenship, without excluding those of heritage, whilst also preventing people who are citizens of convenience from taking advantage. The right of return implies a single citizenship, however this would need to be confirmed at an embassy abroad prior to entry - otherwise you need to enter on a standard visa for whatever reason regardless of heritage. Without that confirmation, even heritage Canadians would not have the right of entry.

This isn't even particularly stringent as compared to requirements for, say, India. India does not grant citizenship unless at least one parent is Indian and the other is a legal migrant. The migrant parent is not granted citizenship unless they live in India for over seven years. Naturalization occurs only after 12 years and with confirmation of language fluency and good character. Dual citizenship is illegal. Overseas citizens are not granted full citizenship until they reach 5 years of residency.
 
The Canadian navy getting designated a terrorist organization by Iran for being rude is the most masculine moment that country's had in years
This is literally the army's greatest accomplishment in decades.
Fundamentally citizenship should be for the originating stock of the country, and no others. Anyone who is Anglo or French Canadian or from a recognized Canadian tribe should be able to leave and enter Canada at will. Likewise, any Anglo-descendant should be able to return to Britain, and the French Canadians to France. People outside this stock should never receive more than revocable residency, subject to meeting strict requirements, however their children may receive citizenship if at least one parent had it through heritage. If you are eligible for citizenship elsewhere (eg: Anglo-Candian father, Indian mother) then you can only choose one citizenship. I'd recommend a system where the child is able to choose between 18 and 21 which they want and it cannot be reversed. Retain citizenship or be deported. Citizenship is not granted to parents for having a citizen child.
Funny how the only countries that allow non ethnic/birthright citizenship are western countries. Even turd world shitholes will only give you citizenship if your parents are from the country.
 
Funny how the only countries that allow non ethnic/birthright citizenship are western countries. Even turd world shitholes will only give you citizenship if your parents are from the country.
It's only ever been a new world thing, largely because they were shaped out of a unique settler-colonial history (rather than being an ethnic homeland, as in the name of almost all European states) and a need to integrate disparate groups like the natives, slaves and colonists. They never intended birthright citizenship to mean random foreigners could just plop out a baby on a beach in secret and voila.
 
Has anyone talked about the Conestoga situation yet? If so, I think it's worth repeating...

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"The union representing Ontario college faculty and support staff, OPSEU/SEFPO, is calling for immediate intervention by the province after Conestoga College issued nearly 400 lay-off notices last week."

Cuts to immigration have been straining a slew of local colleges as of late, leading to staff and program cuts. The downsizing has affected Fanshawe College as well. Many in post-secondary education are feeling the heat.
I have some sympathy for the staff members, but none for the college administration, and before I continue, the buck has to stop somewhere and we cannot enable this system any longer.

I dont like the concept of anyone being laid off before the holidays, especially en masse. Things are tough enough as they are to get by, frankly speaking.

Saying that, a)

they willingly participated in a diploma mill. Hands down, theres no other way to portray this. They got their money, their bag, and a sense of safety for years- while basically participating in a system which destroyed everyone elses.

b) If you have any sense, I get it (a jobs a job in this economy), youd stick with it for a year, maybe 2, and then bounce the fuck out and away from this college. It was a dumpster fire just waiting to happen. Dont know what, but transfer to a different college, try to get something in university teaching, try to get something teaching high school, anything else. I dont blame people for their situations necessarily, but when you choose to stay in a bad situation (like working at conestoga), when the chickens come to roost, you have to deal with it. Obviously there will always be exceptions to the rule, but thats my general take.

The school administration basically destroyed its own reputation by turning it into a diploma mill, by pressuring teachers to just pass students regardless of effort, and by opening the literal floodgates to immigration scams and hundreds of thousands of Indian "students" (conestoga alone), because they wanted the cash.

They expanded hiring as a result, but created an unstable house of cards, and ultimately- this is on them.

I dont want to be involved in a bailout or anything, because frankly with all the profits that said college made (college president getting a bonus), they should be the ones paying out the teachers they overhired and then when the system became unstable, cast them out.

Good riddance to conestoga, frankly.
 
Has anyone talked about the Conestoga situation yet? If so, I think it's worth repeating...

View attachment 8355666

"The union representing Ontario college faculty and support staff, OPSEU/SEFPO, is calling for immediate intervention by the province after Conestoga College issued nearly 400 lay-off notices last week."

Cuts to immigration have been straining a slew of local colleges as of late, leading to staff and program cuts. The downsizing has affected Fanshawe College as well. Many in post-secondary education are feeling the heat.
Building your entire university system on the assumption that there will be infinity third-world princelings ready to pay exorbitant prices to prop up your constant new construction and bloated administrative apparatus was a terrible decision even back in like 2005 when this shit was starting to peak.

We have a similar problem here in the US where the state-level university systems are suddenly having to go around asking for handouts as the government starts clamping down on infinijeets and CCP spies.
 
Skimming through this stuff is really making me question whether it would be a good idea to continue with the process, even if it would be worth some extra money.
Don't join the CAF. They're pozz'd as hell and you'll probably end up shipped off to jewkraine to get killed by Russian drones.
Conestoga College
Good riddance. They were one of the biggest jeet diploma mills in the country.
 
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Because they did not predict their offspring would vote to abolish Canada and everywhere else in the West. They believed it was simply a given that the people of Canada would make Canada a Canadian country, and not a colony of Sikhs and Hindus. They believed the idea of Canada would have held legitimacy, as it did for them, rather than considering itself a blight on the world that needed ending.
Well they screwed that one up pretty good as far as future planning was concerned. Somehow the greatest generation failed to instill nationalism (or at least nationalism that matters) in their boomer children. You'd think after 2 world wars, the cultural identity of your country would be a major issue worthy of talk, thought, debate, and action, apparently not.
 
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