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Should be a wild four years.

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Gibs muh dats fraud has been going on since they had actual, physical food stamps in little booklets. Sell the booklets for 50 cents on the dollar and the buyer gets heavily discounted groceries and the seller gets cash for whatever they want. Crack, knives of peace, whatever.

The difference here - other than a bunch of normies suddenly noticing - is that it is being done systemically and at scale. Also likely being aided and abetted by the very government that imported the demographic engaging in it.

The scale of these scams is such that it creates true qualitative differences, not just quantitative ones.

Someone selling their food stamps to get a couple hundred in cash to spend on drugs is living day-to-day and spends that money instantly on their poison of choice.

These scams bring in so much money that the money is used to start a new scam. You make $300k from "running" a fake daycare or ABA center for a few months, and you parlay that into a cash buy for a house that you then use as the address for your new home healthcare scam. You use part of the next quarter's funds to maximize your donations to Somalian politicians in every US state. They use these donations in scammy ways, both ways that violate campaign finance laws and ways that are technically allowed but frowned upon.

They have used state funds from Minnesota, specifically, as a flywheel to spawn new scams all over the country and become more deeply entrenched. It's also funding immigration lawyers to keep them in the country, and private defense lawyers for when they're caught scamming, and anything else they can use to make sure that they get to stay and keep sucking on more and more government teats.
 
Why do you think they are rallying to try and dogpile me into silence? Even here.
You are mistaken, no one is telling you to stop posting, folks are asking you to stop posting stupid shit. FFS, your posts yesterday were great, but you got a real blind/dumb spot on miller. who cares, you can hate miller all you want, most of the folks in here like miller. That's it.
 
You mistook this forum for /pol/

Close, but not quite

I'm sure there's some overlap. I wasn't expecting this to be a mirror of those who infiltrated and enshittened /pol/.

But the tactics some of them engage in are the same: Rallying others to dogpile. Ridicule when that doesn't work. Moralizing when that doesn't work. Gaslighting to try and make me doubt my own perception of reality.

Overt manipulation is ontologically evil. Because I don't like Evil Mango's jew mouthpiece and don't trust him. I suppose TDS is real for both factions of the uniparty. If I'm not 100% against Orange Bad, then I'm Himmler. If I'm not 100% for Orange Emperor, then I'm the leader of AntiFa.
 
You are mistaken, no one is telling you to stop posting, folks are asking you to stop posting stupid shit. FFS, your posts yesterday were great, but you got a real blind/dumb spot on miller. who cares, you can hate miller all you want, most of the folks in here like miller. That's it.
It annoys the shit out of me how hard he misdirects, though, on his course to explain how Miller is just a Jew trickster

Like ok, but what, are we fake deporting people? Is the admin just pretending to and then we’re letting them back in? Where is the fucking trick
 
You are engaging in gaslighting. Now I need to decide if you do it out of incompetence or malice.
Nigga you are fucking touched, I'm saying that not 100% of a group are pure evil, and your only response is "BUT THREE THOUSAND YEARS OF 99% OF THEM BEING EVIL AND..."

did you hear what I said? I said that there are exceptions to the fucking rule, my nigga, that's all, your response is "no"

this is a level of stauch stubbornness that means you CANNOT be talked to about anything, you already have everything made up in your mind, and can't be moved on any topic ever, so you should fuck off and stop posting, because there's no reason to interact with you, or for you to interact with others, I don't need to gaslight or fuck with you in any way, and I was, ironically one of the few trying to actually discuss with you.

you should really just kill yourself, you've reached the apex of solipsism where no one else is essentially real, or has any real info to give you, because you've already come to the ultimate conclusions, and the only thing left is to explore the afterlife, so do us a favor and record it while you do a flip.
 
I'm sure there's some overlap. I wasn't expecting this to be a mirror of those who infiltrated and enshittened /pol/.

But the tactics some of them engage in are the same: Rallying others to dogpile. Ridicule when that doesn't work. Moralizing when that doesn't work. Gaslighting to try and make me doubt my own perception of reality.

Overt manipulation is ontologically evil. Because I don't like Evil Mango's jew mouthpiece and don't trust him. I suppose TDS is real for both factions of the uniparty. If I'm not 100% against Orange Bad, then I'm Himmler. If I'm not 100% for Orange Emperor, then I'm the leader of AntiFa.
Kill yourself
 
I'm a white guy with a house, a wife, no debts (besides the mortgage), a job, disposable income for hobbies, and time for hobbies. There are plenty of other people in this thread who are the same
No, I don't believe Kiwi Farms as a majority (least of all this thread) fits that description at all. I don't believe you do either. I'm being very honest.
You spend way too much time in doomer circles. I'm not saying that affirmative action and DEI aren't real or that they aren't retarded, but I'm a news junkie. Every day I see stories about some brown people getting something they don't deserve because of AA or DEI and then, a year or so later, they lose it because of incompetence or straight corruption.

Ibram X. Kendi got his own entire school at Boston University, the Center for Antiracist Research. After a vaunted opening, it produced zero original research, wasted untold amounts of money, and was closed 2 years after opening. Stacey Abrams was plastered all over the place and was even made "President of the Federation" in nu-Trek, but her political career is nil. Letitia James was a media darling for suing Trump and then got indicted in federal bank fraud charges.

This is all to say that these people are retarded. Sometimes the universe will solve a problem for you. You can doom and piss and moan, or you can take some initiative to improve your life in material ways and take a moment to observe the master plans of globohomos fail because the globohomos are retards.
The universe does not "solve" anything as it is an inherently entropic force; human beings solve things. To this argument specifically, brown people keep arriving to America in record numbers, despite Trump claiming he gets rid of a couple thousand ever month, for precisely the reasons you just explained. They make excellent fall guys, scapegoats, shabbos goyim, whatever you'd like to call them for the simple fact that they can be onboarded into any given financial scheme. They are shortsighted and greedy. They have no moral compass. No one cares when they are returned to their natural habitat (prison.)

Ask yourself this: have we recovered all of the money Ibram X. Kendi "wasted"? I'm using your example here. And if we tried, would it cost the country more than simply accepting those funds have disappeared into the ether? You claim to watch the news often enough to see this happening constantly. Is that not indicative of a larger scheme that is directly tied to using niggers as patsies in the way I just described? Who specifically is using them in this way? Considering how swiftly they get positions in corporate, academia, state government and more, could those bodies contain corrupt individuals operating this proposed scheme that's too expensive to meaningfully investigate and too ingrained to stop? Do you believe any meaningful punishment will arrive for Tim Walz despite being caught red-handed and the constant hammering into his credibility by the Trump administration? Or do you believe it will all blow over in the miasma of a larger scam economy? One that, based on every metric you could look at right now, is also going to become a reality for the eroding, Door Dash-working middle class. You're watering a rotten plant.
 
I'm sure there's some overlap. I wasn't expecting this to be a mirror of those who infiltrated and enshittened /pol/.

But the tactics some of them engage in are the same: Rallying others to dogpile. Ridicule when that doesn't work. Moralizing when that doesn't work. Gaslighting to try and make me doubt my own perception of reality.

Overt manipulation is ontologically evil. Because I don't like Evil Mango's jew mouthpiece and don't trust him. I suppose TDS is real for both factions of the uniparty. If I'm not 100% against Orange Bad, then I'm Himmler. If I'm not 100% for Orange Emperor, then I'm the leader of AntiFa.
You're doing the same things in this post that you accuse others of. You're doing the same annoying pattern of
1) Post retardation that goes counter to actual experiences of us. While telling us to not use our eyes and ears.
2) Cry when people call out the retardation.
If you're going to be retarded, own the retardation.
 
They have used state funds from Minnesota, specifically, as a flywheel to spawn new scams all over the country and become more deeply entrenched. It's also funding immigration lawyers to keep them in the country, and private defense lawyers for when they're caught scamming, and anything else they can use to make sure that they get to stay and keep sucking on more and more government teats.
Absolutely. I would only argue that Somalians are retards. They are not uniquely suited for understanding that such a scam is possible, merely enabled to do so by our political leadership. Doors were opened for them that were not opened to other equally worthless immigrants.
 
Well, if you don't believe anything we say and think it's all hopeless, then there's no point in having any discussion at all. So why don't you do us all a favor and fuck off?
The next time you vomit up some bootstraps-nonsense about it not being so bad and "just try harder" I'd like you to remember this moment, how you didn't even try to engage with a post asking some very basic questions.
 
Absolutely. I would only argue that Somalians are retards. They are not uniquely suited for understanding that such a scam is possible, merely enabled to do so by our political leadership. Doors were opened for them that were not opened to other equally worthless immigrants.
the Bulbheads are the fall guys, they probably got a decent taste of the cut, but they were always the ones who are going to get thrown into the prisons once this got uncovered, and the people at the top will walk away, untouched.
 
I'm a white guy with a house, a wife, no debts (besides the mortgage), a job, disposable income for hobbies, and time for hobbies. There are plenty of other people in this thread who are the same, many of whom also have children on top of it. You spend way too much time in doomer circles. I'm not saying that affirmative action and DEI aren't real or that they aren't retarded, but I'm a news junkie. Every day I see stories about some brown people getting something they don't deserve because of AA or DEI and then, a year or so later, they lose it because of incompetence or straight corruption.

Ibram X. Kendi got his own entire school at Boston University, the Center for Antiracist Research. After a vaunted opening, it produced zero original research, wasted untold amounts of money, and was closed 2 years after opening. Stacey Abrams was plastered all over the place and was even made "President of the Federation" in nu-Trek, but her political career is nil. Letitia James was a media darling for suing Trump and then got indicted on federal bank fraud charges.

This is all to say that these people are retarded. Sometimes the universe will solve a problem for you. You can doom and piss and moan, or you can take some initiative to improve your life in material ways and take a moment to observe the master plans of globohomos fail because the globohomos are retards.

This is exactly right. It sucks for people born in the "donut hole" generation with big discrimination, but if anyone thinks this house of cards can really continue indefinitely, they must actually believe in their heart of hearts that the diversity hires were actually just as good as the people they replaced.

If you think they're less competent, then it works out in the long term that companies who want competence will eventually abandon their DEI policies. Largescale, organized ingroup stuff like the jeets do can last longer, but eventually that collapses, too.

People who actually have confidence in the relative competence of white guys vs. others know that this is a temporary state of affairs. You do have to keep pushing for competence, of course, you can't just abandon the quest and give up because that's the only thing that lets incompetence win. This was why the troon issue was also always going to be limited-time. The troons can only pretend "we'll be perfectly normal humans if we're given everything we want" for so long before the truth issues in their brand cause too much cognitive dissonance for normies to tolerate. DEI was a fad that didn't work. People buy into fad diets and fad ideologies because they think those diets or ideologies are more effective in some way than what came before. When the scale doesn't move, they get embarrassed and throw away their South Beach Diet book and move on with life, pretending it never happened. We're going to see the same thing here.

I think the reason people are so doomy is actually because of the screenwriter problem. No one wants to admit how much of their worldview comes from actors on the teevee, but it really has an outsize impact on how people conceptualize the world. Apparently for about the last 5 years, almost all new screenwriters have been female, minority, or both, hired for demographics over talent. That has dire results both in terms of quality programming and in terms of making it seem like "all of culture is against us, we're doomed."

Those articles about the bias against white men in industries like screenwriting are leading indicators that we're about to see lawsuits over these hiring practices, and the Justice Department has made it clear that they will be aggressively pursuing cases brought to their attention of discrimination against white men. Within a few years, studios will be hiring white guys frantically in order to avoid lawsuits, and (mysteriously!) it'll also bring viewership and revenue up when they hire the competent people for the jobs. The "golden age of TV" had writers' rooms that made reddit cry.

The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice. It bends toward truth.
 
Yes because it has to be.

Getting fedbux requires numerous bureaucrats approving it at various steps. That it is happening at scale tells you the entire hierarchy has to be in on it.

Reminds me of Hurricane Katrina and New Orleans.

Feds had been funneling fedbux to NOLA for years for them to improve and bolster the levees to keep the city from being flooded during a hurricane.

The local government responded by inventing nonexistent on-paper-only construction companies owned and manned by their relatives - not your sister, but maybe the brother of your sister's husband kind of thing.

Funds were dispersed to these fake companies by the politicians appointed to oversee it. Everyone pencil-whipped the paperwork to say "Yup, work was done and it was a great job too!" Graft and money laundering at an industrial scale, and the feds took them at their word. Because if they didn't, it would be "racist"... or some shit.

Hurricane hits. Levee's fail. City floods. People die. Yada yada. Nobody ever held accountable and if you asked questions you were called "racist", shouted down and told to shut up.

Back when I worked in a healthcare adjacent role some years ago this company had an entire department focused on the Medicare shit. Their sole job was to make sure all of the Medicare claims and whatnot was correct because if it were incorrect guess what? Medicare stops disbursing money to you for year(s) until you fix it to their satisfaction. Medicare is full of retarded bureaucrat losers too yet we had to spend lots of time and money appeasing them.

But 60IQ Somalians have a 300% success rate at it huh?

I know it's cynical, but I am not surprised at any of this. Import 60IQ bulb heads in their hundreds of thousands and "somehow" they figure out how to game the system at scale like this?

Nah.
 
If you think they're less competent, then it works out in the long term that companies who want competence will eventually abandon their DEI policies. Largescale, organized ingroup stuff like the jeets do can last longer, but eventually that collapses, too.
Explain the economic forces that will convince corporations to stop cutting corners and hiring cheap, unreliable, crooked, lying off-shore labor please. It hasn't happened in thirty years so I'm curious what's going to cause this big change.
 
The next time you vomit up some bootstraps-nonsense about it not being so bad and "just try harder" I'd like you to remember this moment, how you didn't even try to engage with a post asking some very basic questions.
You stated you don't believe anything I say, so what am I supposed to do besides tell you to fuck yourself? Idiot.
 
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