Canada is a failed state

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foreman 89 said:
The seeds were planted long before the 1980s.
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In the US it started when the Hart-Cellar act in 1965 abolished national immigration quotas. LBJ and Ted Kennedy claimed it wouldn't impact the American demographic mix much which is a sick, obvious lie now. I don't know what the Canadian equivalent is but I assume you did something similar around that time.
 
Lobster Cult High Priest said:
Merry Christmas to my future neighbours in the Gulag.

Carney gave a pretty good Christmas / Yuletide message.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=KhYUqxNe3pk
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"What really matters?" I have no fucking future, Carney. You and every politician in this country saw it well and fit to sell any fucking future I may have had out, again and again and again. And instead of just letting the country slowly crumble in peace you then saw fit to import tens of millions of fucking foreigners, just to insure every native(not chug) Canadian gets to enjoy poverty!

My mom might die and our house is mortgaged. I am staring down the barrel of homelessness in a country that actively pays to hire anyone but me. I have no fucking future. I have no fucking chance. But these faggots get to make out like bandits. Get to leave a smouldering fucking ruin.
 
Gurney Halleck said:
In the US it started when the Hart-Cellar act in 1965 abolished national immigration quotas. LBJ and Ted Kennedy claimed it wouldn't impact the American demographic mix much which is a sick, obvious lie now. I don't know what the Canadian equivalent is but I assume you did something similar around that time.
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National immigration quotas are one of those things that used to be seen as evil, backwards racism which I think are fast becoming the "moderate position" for immigration policy here in the US.

The entire H1B system probably wouldn't even be a blip on the radar politically if it wasn't 70% Indians. Americans are like grasshoppers - normally docile except when they realize a massive ethnic bloc is forming in their country and resisting assimilation. Then they turn into locusts and start doing shit that was formerly "impossible" or "unthinkable" in terms of immigration policy.
 
Fcret said:
The entire H1B system probably wouldn't even be a blip on the radar politically if it wasn't 70% Indians. Americans are like grasshoppers - normally docile except when they realize a massive ethnic bloc is forming in their country and resisting assimilation. Then they turn into locusts and start doing shit that was formerly "impossible" or "unthinkable" in terms of immigration policy.
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It sort of would be like this still in Canada, but not even due to the ethnic makeup of the immigrants- its the sheer scope of the immigrants.

Before the covid pandemic, Id say that the vast, vast majority of immigrants were either Indians, Chinese, and some Africans (nigeria, etc) and Syrians mixed in in smaller numbers. From my experience in the GTA, thats what I really saw. So even before, we I would say that the majority of immigrants entering were Indian. It was sort of a bother, sort of not, but it was at least managable.

After the pandemic, when we had 9 million new Indians coming in, that was the problem. Now youre talking replacement levels, and 1/4th of total people in Canada will be Indian.

I dont think that Americans really care all that much about ethnic blocs till they become relevant enough to upset the politics of a given region,

Its when people vote based on ethnic lines that things start to get really backwards in the US, and its something super common in the EU, in my opinion. We sort of see that now with Somalians in the midwest, where they will actively sabotage attempts at actual systemic improvement and scream about racism and wanting gibs.

The real problem is when people stop voting as the American collective or the Canadian collective, and start trying to get their own. Thats fundamentally one of the reasons why I have a problem with most Indians in Canada. They dont care about the collective North American future, they support weaker immigration quotas, and they also support the destruction of housing and labour regulations. They wind up voting eventually, and its dangerous for democracy, unironically.
 
foreman 89 said:
The seeds were planted long before the 1980s.
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Sure, we can go back even farther and say the seeds were planted in the industrial revolution, or with the pill or in the Garden of Eden. What I meant was that the beginning of the change in political/economic policy, a steady increase each year of immigration into the West started with the neocons, as I understand. Which casts doubt to me that things would be much different if Harper had ruled for longer since he was very much a neocon.
DiscoRodeo said:
Its when people vote based on ethnic lines that things start to get really backwards in the US, and its something super common in the EU, in my opinion. We sort of see that now with Somalians in the midwest, where they will actively sabotage attempts at actual systemic improvement and scream about racism and wanting gibs.
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Just watched this morning, this Nick Shirley fellow follow up on a dozen or more empty daycares in Minnesota. Makes me think democracy could actually work if it wasn't for the colossal amount of grift.

In other news, Zelensky is stopping in Halifax to meet Mike Carney today, afterwards he is heading to Mar-a-Lago.
 
To be practicality ,we were warned.

This was published in 2002 and panned by the people with vested interests.

Canada’s immigration program used to be run in the national interest. Now it belongs to those who benefit from it, either politically (most newcomers vote Liberal, so the Liberals use immigration to increase support) or economically (a whole industry has grown up around immigration, refugee, and multicultural issues). Who Gets Inshows how this came about, explains why it’s contrary to the national interest, and suggests ways to fix the mess.
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paddy_wagon said:
Sure, we can go back even farther and say the seeds were planted in the industrial revolution, or with the pill or in the Garden of Eden. What I meant was that the beginning of the change in political/economic policy, a steady increase each year of immigration into the West started with the neocons, as I understand. Which casts doubt to me that things would be much different if Harper had ruled for longer since he was very much a neocon.
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Harper was criticized by the Libs for lowering the amount of money required for immigrants to 80k CAD, supposedly selling citizenship to UMC Chinese. Then of course they got in and lowered it to 50k and opened the doors to the jeet lower class flood.
 
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