Misinformation + Obvious Bullshit Part 3:
On
Page-569, on August 24, 2024, the user
@Shake (
archived profile here) highlighted the timestamp (
01:11:20) from the H3H3 Podcast episode titled “
MrBeast Hired a Pedo, QT Hired a Queen, Sam’s Last Supper.”
Here is the video along with the clip
In the livestream, Matthew Turner, a former MrBeast editor and Big Brother contestant, spoke out against MrBeast.
Turner claimed that a former manager, Dan, had a five-year-old child and that Ava and Jimmy made inappropriate jokes about the child. Turner alleged that the situation escalated, leading Dan to attack a cameraman. Without proof, this is likely untrue or missing key context. This is not the first time that Matthew Turner has made serious claims without evidence against Beast with some additional context of prior statements that contradict the lies he spread. For context prior to this livestream, Matthew Turner had leveled allegations against MrBeast, including claims of workplace bullying and other misconduct specifically making a video about it in 2019. Later, he told the same thing to the New York Times then Twitter.
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The problem with Matthew’s statements is that they appear to contradict his earlier public comments. On April 7, 2018, Matthew Turner stated that MrBeast treated everyone on his team, including him, with respect, and said that he had “never had a better job.” This inconsistency raises questions about the reliability and context of his claims.
When a Twitter user pushed back and asked Matt for proof, Matthew claimed that he did have evidence but said it “involves” someone else whom he does not want to bring into the situation. As a result, Matthew effectively provided no proof and instead asked observers to trust his word, despite making serious claims that, if believed more by the Internet, would have have harmed MrBeast’s reputation and it did.
The tweets Matthew posted were deleted, along with the account that replied to him. However, using the Wayback Machine, we can still properly authenticate this interaction.
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More things pushed these claims to doubt and likely false. On April 29, 2018, Matthew Turner posted a video titled “What It’s Like Working for MrBeast (My Job)."
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In the
now-privated video, Matthew highlighted his positive experience working at Beast and how it helped him secure a job at SOAR.
In the YouTube comments, Matt Turner acknowledges that MrBeast is a kind and hardworking person, and he even said he has “good things to say about those guys.”
While the video itself is no longer accessible, it is possible to verify that he secured a job at SoaR Gaming through a video titled “Joined SoaR Gaming – Vietnam Vlog,” which was posted on October 18, 2018.
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His trip to Vietnam was mostly funded by the fact that MrBeast continued paying him even after he was let go and was no longer employed by the company.
Moreover, articles from the time which cite the April 2018 video specifically a
Dextero article where Turner is quoted as saying working for MrBeast was quote "a blast each and every day."
While the full archived video is no longer accessible, available secondary sources indicate that the overall sentiment of the early video was positive and some clips exist.
Moreover even in Matt's expose video, he highlighted a few things. In Optimus's video titled "Editor Accuses MrBeast Of Insane List Of Things," Matthew Turner's says in his now-deleted video that his rent for his luxury apartment was paid every month while working at Beast.
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Additionally, a prior tweet further supports that Matthew had a positive experience working at Beast, as he stated in his own words that he “could have never had a better job.” After the original Twitter thread was deleted, Matthew Turner claimed he got hacked.
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Here is a clip from a Passionfruit interview that Matthew did with Steven Asarch.
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Is there any proof of this? In both the
Passionfruit interview and some of his tweets, he makes these claims but provides no evidence. While these claims are possible, serious allegations require serious evidence, and until such evidence is provided, they should be met with skepticism. Additionally, Matthew Turner stated that he was told online to kill himself every day, and that people were threatening to come to his house and harm him. Considering this involves perhaps the world’s largest content creator, it is likely that Turner did experience some harassment stemming from his original Twitter thread. However, as noted above, he makes broad statements without providing evidence to substantiate them. It’s also important to emphasize that this is not MrBeast’s fault, as he cannot be held responsible for the actions of rogue fans online, a reality every creator, regardless of size, must face. Another claim Turner made was that a cameraman was thrown into the ocean, which, according to him, occurred in the video titled
"Winning a Game of Fortnite in the Middle of the Ocean."
However, like the previous bullying claims made by Matthew Turner, these lack evidence and are therefore mere statements rather than proof. This contrasts with the Ava Tyson Discord server, which contained over 500,000 messages that were proven to be real and archived, along with moderator logs and additional testimony. One is an unsupported claim, while the other is backed by documented evidence and recordings from when the server was still active. Additionally, Matt’s other video, titled ‘Greatest Year of My Life,’ serves as secondary evidence that these claims are missing context. A tweet that was made against Matt at this time also highlights this point mainly questioning why is MrBeast part of the thumbnail of the video if he abused Matt and Matt said fun times still and explains that Youtube randomly selected the thumbnail.
Another user in this thread raises a fair point by questioning why Matt appeared in this video if MrBeast was as abusive as Matt described, especially if the alleged abuse was as severe as he claimed. That is a reasonable line of questioning. I still don’t believe Matthew is acting out of genuine malice, and it’s likely he did experience real issues. However, many of his claims appear to be exaggerated, inaccurate, or missing key context that adds important nuance to the situation. When Matt Turner was asked about the NDA he signed with MrBeast and whether he should reconsider his prior statements before tweeting, given the possibility of a defamation lawsuit, Turner responded that he didn’t know how the company could sue him because he had no money.
This actually strengthens the defense for Beast. Why? Because despite what some may consider defamatory statements, Jimmy did not sue Matt Turner and allowed him to speak freely rather than attempting to silence him. While I believe my criticisms are valid, I do not think Matt was acting with intentional malice. It’s possible there were genuine issues between the two parties; however, some of the other claims I highlighted about the company are either inaccurate or lack crucial context needed to fully understand the situation. This may stem from misunderstandings or a failure to see eye to eye rather than deliberate misrepresentation. False claims can and should be challenged without dismissing the reality that some legitimate problems did occur between them. This is supported by two tweets from Matt’s then-private Twitter account, posted on April 25, 2018, in which he expressed dissatisfaction with working there.
This still strongly supports the point I made. The fact of the matter is that my argument is that Matt Turner is not malicious. He and Beast did have some issues with each other, but most of the claims Matt made against Beast are exaggerated, inaccurate, or missing key context that matters. Another major claim Matthew Turner made involved missing payments. For proof, Matt Turner used a photo that he claimed was Beast deleting project files.
The issue at hand is whether this incident actually occurred as described, as the photo in question is merely circumstantial evidence. MrBeast could be doing virtually anything in that image, and a reasonable critique is why a photo was taken instead of a video recording if the situation was as severe as claimed. According to Turner, the context is as follows: after failing to deliver the value MrBeast expected, MrBeast continued deleting the project files, which upset Turner. Turner then went to another employee’s office to seek help. According to Turner, MrBeast interpreted this as Turner going behind his back, which led to a confrontation in which MrBeast became enraged, called Turner mentally retarded, and ordered him to return to the room and finish the video. While MrBeast’s perspective or his own account of events is not fully known, there may be missing context. If Turner’s account is accurate, it is possible that this anger stemmed from pent-up frustration. As outlined earlier, Beast was paying Turner’s rent every month and was likely grinding on YouTube every day. It is likely that Beast saw significant potential in Turner but felt that Turner was not living up to it. When this is considered alongside the perception that Turner was speaking behind his back, it becomes more understandable why such a level of anger might occur. From Beast’s perspective, he may have felt that he gave Turner every opportunity to succeed, yet Turner failed to take full advantage of it. It is also possible that miscommunication between the two contributed to this conflict. Turner may not have fully understood how Jimmy felt, which could have made some of his actions seem like random outbursts of rage or anger, in reality, in some cases, they may have been expressions of pent-up frustration, stemming from the fact that he was working hard while also genuinely wanting Turner to succeed. A third screenshot Matt Turner shares relates to someone who did not take the job at MrBeast. Specifically, it highlights how this person was able to learn everything they needed in just one week and didn’t disrupt the vibe. Turner agreed and added that he really liked Ava, Eric, Ethan Schriver, and Jesse, and he wrote, “We were proud we heard you didn’t take it.”
This does not reflect poorly on MrBeast. The screenshot simply shows that a person didn’t connect with the vibe of a work environment, which happens in all job sectors. Sometimes someone may not fit in with a specific team or work culture, and they may be better suited for a different role or workplace. Recognizing this nuance is important, and this screenshot is not stronger evidence compared to the 500k messages in the Ava Tyson Discord server that were leaked. MrBeast’s perspective regarding Matt Turner is also worth highlighting. In a video made by Keemstar, during a call with MrBeast on October 9th, he stated that he gave Matt Turner $10,000 in severance and helped him secure another job at Soar Gaming, which, as noted earlier, Turner confirmed. While archives of this video are non-existent, what does exist are articles that cite what MrBeast said in this call specifically
https://www.monstersandcritics.com/ and
https://www.dexerto.com/.
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Beyond these articles, another way to authenticate this video existing is primarily through the Wayback Machine. The URL of the video is
https://youtu.be/N-nIiAUkCJ8 and when inputting it on the Wayback Machine gives us results (
access here) from August 4, 2024.
When attempting to access the video through snapshots, it currently appears to be inaccessible. However, even though the video cannot be accessed, the snapshots themselves serve as evidence that it existed at one point in time.
This serves as verification that the video existed at one point in time. But wait, what about the fact that Turner, when answering questions with Optimus, said he was not paid while working at SoaR, and that MrBeast only recommended him months later? Optimus asked, 'MrBeast didn’t give you $10K in severance; that was your total pay over that time, then?
Optimus interpreted this as Matt not being paid his full $10K, but here’s what he fails to consider: when MrBeast mentioned paying Matt Turner $10K in severance, that amount also included his regular pay. Doing the math, this totals around $10K. Even if, by technicality, this is inaccurate, we must also consider that Matt’s luxury apartment was paid for each month by MrBeast, and that he continued to receive payments after he was let go. All of these things qualify as expenses being covered by Beast.
Even so, regardless of whether it was $10K or not, the fact is that, for your average YouTube editor, this is a substantial amount to be paid. There is a final thing to counter regarding stuff pertaining to Matt Turner mainly two screenshots.
The first issue with these screenshots is that they are blurred and lack a reliable method of authentication. While they could be real testimonies, the main concern is verifying their authenticity. Secondly, even if they are genuine, they do not necessarily reflect poorly on Jimmy. Like any workplace, not everyone will get along or have entirely positive experiences. Working on one of the world’s largest YouTube channels means being under constant pressure to produce the best content while also striving to exceed previous achievements and support those around you. Operating with a mindset of being the best often requires grinding nearly 24/7, which most people are not accustomed to. In such an environment, where exceeding expectations is encouraged, some may perceive the workplace as toxic or overwhelming. However, this high-pressure atmosphere is driven by a culture of success and consistent dedication. While this does not dismiss the feelings of those who may have experienced challenges, some of which could be valid, context is important when evaluating these claims. Thirdly, the last screenshot simply shows that someone happened to be declined and mentions that, while it was fun, their personal life felt unstable and they didn’t want to move. This is not MrBeast’s fault, because, as the person states, they enjoyed the experience and were referring to issues in their personal life, not the workplace. On
Page-50,
@Shake attempts to implicate Jimmy in knowing about Delaware, deflecting from the real issue: Ava Tyson was friends with Delaware, yet when calling out Jake The Viking, she omitted the important context of her association with Delaware. So when Ava states, “who you keep in your company describes a lot about you,” this applies directly to herself. The difference is that while Delaware is an RSO, he is still part of Jake The Viking’s circle. In contrast, Ava conveniently left out her previous friendship with Delaware until it suited her to distance herself once the conflict with Jake The Viking began.
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Not only was she fully aware that he was an RSO, but she also had no problems until her beef with Jake the Viking.
Let’s deconstruct the claims
@Shake made against Jimmy. To advance his narrative, he relies almost entirely on testimony previously presented by Matthew Turner. Turner alleges that before Delaware was hired, there was another manager named Dan who had a five-year-old child, and that Ava and Jimmy made inappropriate jokes about the child. He further claims that the situation escalated and ultimately resulted in Dan attacking a cameraman. As previously established, these allegations are entirely unproven and rest solely on Matt Turner’s word, absent any context, documentation, or corroboration. We have already demonstrated that several of Turner’s prior statements do not withstand scrutiny and were easily deconstructed. Even if we momentarily assume that a manager named Dan existed, there is still no independent verification that these events occurred as described, or at all. Where is Dan’s account? Where are the witnesses? Where is the evidence? At present, there is no proof supporting Turner’s claim, only unverified testimony. Testimony without supporting evidence is not substantiation; it is merely an assertion. If Dan allegedly attacked a cameraman, this would constitute a serious criminal act. Was an assault report filed? Is there any police record, internal incident report, or contemporaneous documentation to support this allegation? In the absence of such evidence, the claim amounts to speculation rather than fact. Recognizing this as a weak point,
@Shake relies on Jake the Viking’s testimony, claiming that Delaware was hired after Dan allegedly assaulted a cameraman.
Jake The Viking also claimed that Jimmy and his mother Sue were aware of the RSO's history.
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This is a lie. When Jake The Viking was questioned by AugieRFC's roommate named Connor, Jake stated he
reiterating what he had been told and that he didn't have proof for the story he told in his original statement which means someone else had told him this story and he believed it and relayed it without question. Why does this matter outside of the obvious implications? What
@Shake tries to distract from through his focus on Jimmy is the connection between Delaware and Ava Tyson which he mentions briefly but does not question it more than he should. Ava Tyson and Delaware were co-workers at Best Buy, specifically in the Home Theater department. They were friends, or at least on friendly terms, as
@Shake points out.
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In a MrBeast video titled "
I Gave $20,000 To Random Homeless People" Ava gave Delaware a hug and this outside of the Facebook post that Delaware posted seems to shows some sort of friendship or at least a person on very good terms.
When it comes to Delaware, criticism is understandable, but context is essential. He has been open about his past, has expressed remorse, and has taken clear steps to move forward, building stability and accountability in his life, including having a wife. At the time these events unfolded, Jimmy’s company was still small, and it is likely that he was unaware of Delaware’s RSO status until much later. It was not until Reed entered the picture, bringing corporate experience and formal background-check procedures, that the issue was fully identified. What I’ve outlined here is corroborated by a secret recording made by Dogpack404, featured in a video titled “I Worked for MrBeast, He’s a Sociopath,” in which he recorded an employee without their consent.
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At that point, it appears that both Jimmy and Reed recognized that Delaware needed to be removed. Notably, many of the arguments used to claim that Jimmy “must have known” rely almost entirely on guilt by association, such as video appearances or simple proximity. For example,
@Shake cites two MrBeast videos, “
Destroyed Friend’s House And Bought Him A New One” and “
I Spent 24 Hours Straight In Insane Asylum,” to suggest a connection between Delaware and Beast. However, this reasoning is purely guilt by association. Delaware’s appearance in these two videos proves nothing on its own. And what about the video “
I Spent 24 Hours Straight In Insane Asylum”?
Destroyed Friend’s House And Bought Him A New One
I Spent 24 Hours Straight In Insane Asylum
In the second video, Delaware wore a mask, marking his last appearance. He was let go shortly after MrBeast signed with Night Media in
January 2019, which further supports the point I made above.
@Shake asks: "If Jimmy didn't know, why was Delaware hiding his face after years spent out in the open? If Jimmy did know, why was he allowed to compete in a main channel video anyway? Will Jimmy ever admit that Delaware wasn’t just some random guy, but
Chris Tyson's old pal, and they hug each-other in the video his defenders keep citing at
5:13?"This argument is completely retarded. Let's address Shake's first point at hand specifically how Jimmy could not know if Delaware was hiding his face after years in one video. The answer to this is obvious mainly. The video took place in an insane asylum, and in Delaware, what happened here could have been surprisingly simple. To fit the role and appear “crazy,” Delaware likely chose a mask that matched the persona of a disturbed individual in a psychiatric ward. Considering this, and the fact that he was already an RSO, what should have been a fairly minor nuisance was blown out of proportion due to the unfortunate set of circumstances. We must also emphasize that Delaware himself stated that Ava (who went by Chris at the time) was “his boy,” meaning a friend. This raises far more serious questions about her knowledge and association than the speculative connections often used to implicate Jimmy. The question shouldn’t be how much Jimmy knew about Delaware; it should be how much Ava knew. According to Reddit user
u/greenregsnham, Jefferson did
prior retail work in Greenville with Ava Tyson.
The next highlight involves accusations that Ava Tyson cheated on several men, supposedly revealing underlying conflicts and explaining why Katie broke up with him, claims that ultimately proved completely baseless and false. But where did these claims originate? On July 24, 2024, Nathan—a member and former moderator of the Ava Tyson Discord server, alleged that Ava cheated on her wife with multiple men and women, and that this was the reason Katie broke up with her. Unlike other claims supported by concrete evidence, such as Discord logs, this allegation has no proof and is little more than gossip. It only muddies the waters around stronger, evidence-backed claims against Ava. At the same time, I do not believe Nathan acted with malicious intent. Rather, it appears this was a rumor, and knowing Nathan’s tendency to speak impulsively, it was likely a statement he should not have made.
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How can we prove Nathan’s tendency to speak impulsively? In a group chat, I shared this absurd situation where Ava was attempting to “disprove” the authenticated Discord logs. That’s when I was introduced to the PR representative, a friend of Cookie, known as FriedVEO. He was described as a major figure in the original anti-MrBeast movement, though I’d frame it differently: it seems more accurate to call it the Anti-Ava movement, rather than anti-MrBeast.
FriedVEO also had his second account added which is called Fred_TheEpic.
FriedVEVO explained that he always remained neutral and left the logs open to interpretation. When asked about Nathan, he added that he hadn’t spoken a word since the logs.
FriedVEVO explained that during the server leaking, it was difficult for Nathan not to self-sabotage, which makes sense given the intense scrutiny and pressure surrounding such a high-profile situation.
Those involved in the newly created anti-Ava movement operated in isolation, without speaking to one another, leaving them without coordination, guidance, or any collective plan for how to confront the situation.
The third point to refute is the claim that our discussion of Eret’s interactions with an artist is “schizo,” and that, within the context of highlighting actions Ava has been proven to have committed, this amounts to guilt by association or baseless reaching. This characterization is inaccurate and straight up retarded. So, what actually happened?
On
Page-426, I made a post on July 29, 2024, in which I improperly targeted a close friend of Ava Tyson, a Twitch streamer named Eret, by relying on guilt by association. This was a horrible choice and I should have never done that. I framed my argument by emphasizing Eret’s friendship with Ava and then engaged in speculative commentary about Eret’s gender identity, drawing unfounded conclusions based on superficial traits such as painted nails, long hair, and clothing I perceived as feminine. This speculation was inappropriate and irrelevant. Eret had already publicly addressed their identity in a video titled “I’m Back,” posted on YouTube on April 26, 2024. In that video, they discuss their career growth as a content creator, from averaging 10 viewers to reaching 20,000 daily viewers on Twitch and gaining over one million followers, but more importantly, they openly clarify their gender identity and sexuality. Eret states, “I identify as genderqueer, gender-fluid, and use any pronouns.” My prior commentary failed to respect this clarity and it wasn't even necessary to mention Eret's identity in the first place or being transgender.
What matters is not only proving that the argument of guilt by association is completely devoid of substance, but also pointing out that it undermines any legitimate criticism of Ava’s past actions that genuinely did hurt people. Those real issues become muddied when they are mixed with claims like these (false ones), which ultimately do more harm than good and spread hateful narratives instead of encouraging genuine, good-faith conversations. The claim I made, namely, that “Eret was a huge fan of lolicon”, was defamatory regardless of whether it came from last year. It was still wrong to post. How is this considered misinformation? The context behind it was that Eret had followed an artist on Twitter and reposted their artworks. These artworks were of chibi characters and in my post I labeled these as lolicon when they were not.
Did Eret commission these works? No. Eret was supporting someone they viewed as a local artist and a friend, which is why they reposted them. When examining their interactions, it’s clear that while there were exchanges between Eret and the artist, this does not prove that Eret supported the artist’s other, more problematic content or even that they necessarily saw it. It is far more likely that they simply liked the chibi characters.
Another point to note is that I relied on a single post to suggest a connection between Eret and F1nn5ter. However, one post alone is not sufficient evidence to establish such a connection. More evidence is required beyond a single tweet; otherwise, the claim is too broad and lacks a solid basis so not enough proof.
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The fourth point to highlight is the idea of a connection between Ava Tyson,
Jean Hollywood (formerly
Ella Hollywood, also known as
Jean-Luc Michelena), and
F1NN5TER. However, this is essentially a stretch/untrue with the current evidence at hand. The only basis for this supposed connection is that Jean spent time with F1NN5TER, and Ava happened to hang out with both Jean and F1NN5TER on one occasion.
This happened during the filming of the MrBeast video
"$1 vs $250,000 Vacation" in Japan.
While the three mentions are speculation, what is confirmed is Jean Hollywood being connected to GigglyGoonClown (Orion Grant Passmore). What about claims of transphobia? Yes. In my Ava Tyson OP, I claimed that Ava Tyson used legal threats to silence people because she alleged that individuals misgendered and deadnamed her, which could potentially lead to charge of sex discrimination.
What should be highlighted is Ava never pursued any legal action beyond posting about the matter on social media. Rather than reflecting a valid grievance, the pattern of behavior strongly suggests the allegations were leveraged as a pressure tactic to deter criticism and forestall what appeared to be an imminent and justified removal from the company amid allegations of sexual misconduct and other significant issues.
This context is particularly important given that MrBeast had been openly supportive of Ava Tyson’s transition and exhibited no pattern of transphobic conduct, further undermining this. In fact Jimmy has always had Ava’s back and even defended her when people attacked her for her trans identity. For context on April 2023, Ava Tyson announced that she began starting HRT via Twitter.
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A Twitter user known as
@Em_Alpha was not supportive, stating, “In a few years, look back at this thread and remember they were never your friends, only yes-men cowards. Hope you come out of this safe.” Jimmy showed support for his best friend, stating, “Opinion, irrelevant. Ratio,” affirming that despite what others claimed or said about Jimmy, he was never transphobic and supported his friend regardless of what happened.
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On July 23, 2023, in Anthony Padilla’s video “I Spent a Day with Kris Tyson,” Ava Tyson came out as transgender.
While Ava received some support online, she also faced a great deal of hate, even on our website, Kiwi Farms was not a fan of the news. This led to a massive wave of hostility. Amid all the widespread backlash from the broader MrBeast fan community came the infamous SunnyV2 video. The SunnyV2 video, originally titled “
Why Chris Will Soon Be a Nightmare for MrBeast” and later changed to “
How Will the Chris Tyson Situation Impact MrBeast,” was posted on April 13, 2023. It discussed how Ava might become a PR issue due to her being transgender.
However, this is retarded and controversies surrounding Ava existed prior to her transition, including allegations that she operated an NSFW Discord server that reportedly involved minors who were sent porn by adults. These allegations were supported by leaked Discord logs that are currently accessible on
https://nutus.neocities.org/. Therefor, making such allegations proven.
Are these allegations based around transphobia? No. While those involved could potentially be or not transphobic what matters here is the original intent behind downloading the Discord server. As stated by CookieOfGods, his reason for downloading the Discord logs was due to Shadow Bullet (also known as Max Herman), who was allegedly behaving inappropriately with minors as
stated here.
Does a claim prove someone is predatory or a pedophile? No. What matters however is the fact the source who leaked the logs clarified his original intent. Ava was also not openly trans at this time at least publicly on Twitter or Discord. Whether a person fits the definition of a pedophile or a groomer, an adult in an NSFW Discord server full of minors whom they engaged with inappropriately should still be condemnable. The original intent was not based on Ava being trans, as she was not openly trans at that point; the download occurred because of Shadow Bullet. Messages from October 2020 in the infamous Discord server can be referenced in relation to a MrBeast video Ava Tyson was in titled “
$300,000 Influencer Trivia Tournament!” released on October 15, 2020.
This applies to other instances. When Ava was posting lolicon, she still identified as a cis man. Evidence of lolicon postings with 2 tweets cited here (
A1,
A2). Given that Dipper and Mabel are both 12–13 years old in Gravity Falls and Caillou is 12 years old, the way Ava interacts with NSFW content involving minors demonstrates an attraction. People criticized Ava not because she’s transgender, but because of her prior actions and her lolicon postings/Shadman support. Even if Ava was openly trans in the Discord, it does not change the allegations that she operated an NSFW Discord server where porn was shared to minors. Whether or not Ava is trans, this behavior is unacceptable. A
recording circulated online by a user known as
LilNoNameFR (or RyaN) allegedly shows Ava talking about “cracking open an egg” (a term referring to someone who is transgender but not yet aware), and making a remark wishing mouth cancer on someone.
Despite everything whether it be the rightful criticism of Ava Tyson or the blatant transphobia that happened after, what matters is Jimmy is not transphobic. After the SunnyV2 video, Jimmy defended Ava, saying, “Yeah, this is getting absurd. Chris isn’t my ‘nightmare’; he’s my fucken friend, and things are fine. All this transphobia is starting to piss me off.” This was in response to Twitter user @Reloyn who talked about the SunnyV2 video feeling invasive for all the wrong reasons.
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Many on Kiwi Farms criticized Jimmy for this, but we have to remember: Ava was his childhood best friend. No matter the context of this, it is clear Jimmy was loyal to his best friend. This is why it’s strange how certain people who still talk to Ava, or are sympathetic to her, try to claim that Jimmy is transphobic and that this is why he got her ousted from the company, rather than because her own actions contributed to it including hosting an NSFW discord server full of minors where she along with others sent porn to them.
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On June 22, 2024, Jimmy pushed back against allegations that Ava Tyson was a bad mother or had abandoned her wife, and instead advocated for Ava, stating, “Tuck man is always smiling; not sure why this rumor is a thing.” While critics of Jimmy may argue that his private conduct differed from his public behavior, it’s also important to remember that Ava herself stated in a Snapchat story that Jimmy was one of the most supportive people when she first came out as trans. A Kiwi Farms user known as
Vampirdžija highlighted this with a screenshot on
page 51 of the Ava Kris Tyson thread.
A Snapchat user known as Aurora, who is also transgender, asked Ava, “Who was the easiest to come out to, and who did you start with, if you don’t mind the question? I want to start slowly coming out to more people in real life, but I don’t know where to start.” It’s important to remember that when Ava came out as transgender, it was a significant moment for many in the trans community, who felt they finally had someone connected to one of the largest YouTube channels serving as a positive role model.
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When Discord, Instagram and Snapchat leaks later circulated online, many of these same supporters struggled to accept them because the representation they believed Ava embodied was destroyed and questioned. At the same time, people who already disliked Ava for being trans saw the situation as confirmation of their existing views aka their hatred of trans people. This is why for someone like Aurora she really did see Ava as a hero, which makes this heartbreaking. Ava replied to Aurora explaining it was Jimmy because he does not care what Ava does and he loves her no matter what and that is why he is the best. Ava also adds that Jimmy knew she struggled with her gender for a while. In Ava’s own words, she confirms that Jimmy out of everyone was the one most supportive. Mooskina was a person to push the claims that he was transphobic the entire time. Who is Mooskina?
Mooskina who goes by
@mooskina on Twitter or
@Blebberina is someone who accused Ava Tyson of sexually assault along with other details.
@AltisticRight published a
detailed post summarizing key points of an article by Steven Asarch that discusses this sexual misconduct. Mooskina alleges that a
third-party investigation into Ava Tyson began before the public outcry. Mooskina is a victim who has since forgiven Ava Tyson, and there’s no issue with that. Forgiveness is a personal choice. On September 21, 2025, through her
@Blebberina alt account, Mooskina stated that Ava apologized for everything related to the MrBeast incident and that they’ve resolved their differences and are now on good terms.
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Here is the tweet that started the transphobia claims that Jimmy is transphobic.
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Mooskina alleged that Jimmy was not only against pro-trans politics but also opposed to puberty blockers and transitioning. The thing that matters here is that, regardless of what people think of Mooskina, she did live with Jimmy for a long time. It’s entirely possible that she has receipts , but the issue is similar to the allegations about Jimmy being gay, Mooskina is making claims without providing any evidence to support them. What is the context behind the gay allegations? One of the many claims that Mooskina tries to push on Jimmy is that she teases he is gay and has a micro-penis. Here are some examples below:
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This is not the first time Mooskina speculates about someone’s sexuality. Here are examples of Mooskina speculating on other men’s sexuality.
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To be continued...... (3.1 aka next post).
