AI Derangement Syndrome / Anti-AI artists / Pro-AI technocultists / AI "debate" communities - The Natural Retardation in the Artificial Intelligence communities

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What goes on in these people's heads? Even if you're against AI, how do you even reach this conclusion?
Yeah. I use AI. If that makes me racist then call me John C. Calhoun. I don't give a shit.
The morality of these people is completely ass-backwards; they will compare the act of training a model to rape, but then send rape threats flagrantly.
 
Anyways, this dumb award show stripped Clair Obscur of its wins of course lmao.

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The devs stated they, like Larian, used AI for placeholder images. As far as I am aware, that was all it was used for.

Even if it wasn't this is beyond, BEYOND retarded for an indie developer award show. Indie devs literally have the most to gain from using AI for development. It opens a million doors for the gaps in the developers weaknesses, allowing them to make a product to their vision while on a budget. But won't somebody please think of the artists???
 
My theory on the AI bubble bursting is that it won't happen until the end of 2028. Why? Because Trump is in office and providing an excellent low-regulation environment, meaning almost zero federal AI regulation outside of a pornographic deepfakes bill, he's attempted to squash state AI laws (success to be determined), and he's allowing through big mergers and acquisitions.

A President Vance succeeding President Trump could continue the gravy train. A Democratic President would be highly likely to end the good times for Big Tech. But either way, this is a critical window in which the industry can get a lot done with a guarantee of less red tape. So even if it's destined to crash and burn, it could take another 3 years.

Trump Signs Executive Order Targeting State AI Laws
How Trump’s Bid to Crush State AI Laws Splits His Own Party
Texas lawmakers from both parties oppose Trump’s order targeting state AI laws
A view from DC: Can the FTC preempt state AI laws?
Trump Revokes Order to Ease M&A Rules
US companies strike $80bn in mergers as Trump boosts dealmaking

Would a Democrat Presidential Nominee even use anti-AI as part of his/her ad campaign? And who out of the potential nominees (Newsom, Shapiro, Hochul, Pritzker, Green, AOC, Harris, Clinton) would be the most likely to do so?
 
Anyways, this dumb award show stripped Clair Obscur of its wins of course lmao.

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The devs stated they, like Larian, used AI for placeholder images. As far as I am aware, that was all it was used for.

Even if it wasn't this is beyond, BEYOND retarded for an indie developer award show. Indie devs literally have the most to gain from using AI for development. It opens a million doors for the gaps in the developers weaknesses, allowing them to make a product to their vision while on a budget. But won't somebody please think of the artists???
Ignoring how colossally dumb this decision is, they based it off a quote from a (Google Translated) interview from literal months ago that happened to go viral on Twitter this week in the wake of the Larian Studios backlash. And it was already known that there were AI placeholder assets in the game because people on social media spotted them shortly after the game released, and Sandfall patched them out.

I would respect this decision slightly more if they had stood on business and not nominated it in the first place, but this reeks of a publicity stunt and/or attempt to cash in on the growing backlash against this game after its Game Awards sweep.
 
Would a Democrat Presidential Nominee even use anti-AI as part of his/her ad campaign? And who out of the potential nominees (Newsom, Shapiro, Hochul, Pritzker, Green, AOC, Harris, Clinton) would be the most likely to do so?
We could see it as a "big corporations are ruining everything" and "the jobs!!!" angle. I would expect anti-AI messaging from the Bernie/AOC progressive wing. 2026 could be a trial run for some 2028 messaging.

I just looked up "AI jobs" on Politico and I see stuff like this:

Trump AI czar David Sacks starts to worry the industry (archive)
More than half a dozen people closely involved with the issue in Washington told POLITICO that Sacks undercut the tech industry’s effort on Capitol Hill to craft a more permanent federal solution on state AI rules, instead ramming through unilateral action that could turn AI law into a national political fight.
Data centers have a political problem — and Big Tech wants to fix it (archive)
Alarmed by elections that candidates won by campaigning against new data centers, the industry is taking out ads and funding campaigns to flip the narrative and put data centers in a positive light — spinning them as job creators and economic drivers rather than resource-hungry land hogs.

The new campaigns mark a sharp change for an industry that has long relied on tech’s image as an engine of growth and development. They signal how concerned the tech sector is becoming about data centers in the 2026 midterm elections.
Arizona city rejects data center after AI lobbying push (archive)
The project, along with Sinema’s involvement, attracted significant community opposition, with speakers raising concerns about whether the project would use too much water or raise power prices. Residents packed the council chambers, with many holding up signs reading “No More Data Centers.”
How AI job cuts could come back to haunt Trump (archive)
 
Anyways, this dumb award show stripped Clair Obscur of its wins of course lmao.

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The devs stated they, like Larian, used AI for placeholder images. As far as I am aware, that was all it was used for.

Even if it wasn't this is beyond, BEYOND retarded for an indie developer award show. Indie devs literally have the most to gain from using AI for development. It opens a million doors for the gaps in the developers weaknesses, allowing them to make a product to their vision while on a budget. But won't somebody please think of the artists???
The truth is that in indie dev, artists are allowed to use whatever tools and shortcuts they want, even ChatGPT, but programmers aren't. Artists have got them by the balls and it shows.

Go hang out in some gamedev circles on places like reddit *sigh* if you want to see
 
My theory on the AI bubble bursting is that it won't happen until the end of 2028. Why? Because Trump is in office and providing an excellent low-regulation environment, meaning almost zero federal AI regulation outside of a pornographic deepfakes bill, he's attempted to squash state AI laws (success to be determined), and he's allowing through big mergers and acquisitions.

A President Vance succeeding President Trump could continue the gravy train. A Democratic President would be highly likely to end the good times for Big Tech. But either way, this is a critical window in which the industry can get a lot done with a guarantee of less red tape. So even if it's destined to crash and burn, it could take another 3 years.

Trump Signs Executive Order Targeting State AI Laws
How Trump’s Bid to Crush State AI Laws Splits His Own Party
Texas lawmakers from both parties oppose Trump’s order targeting state AI laws
A view from DC: Can the FTC preempt state AI laws?
Trump Revokes Order to Ease M&A Rules
US companies strike $80bn in mergers as Trump boosts dealmaking
Republican senator Marsha Blackburn just unveiled the TRUMP AMERICA AI Act which will make everyone super safe from big bad AI and also fucks with Section 230 for good measure.


She proudly mentions how this act incorporates "legislation Senator Blackburn has previously introduced, the Kids Online Safety Act and NO FAKES Act, to protect children and creators. "
 
if anti-ai people call ai art "ai slop" then lets call human art "humanslop"
I already do because we've seen it in this very thread lol
some people will look at some 20 something autist's crayon drawing and go "at least a human made it". They defend slop on the basic, juvenile notion that it's black and white/human or ai. Even if a ton of work was done to make the art look good they still call it "ai slop" which has been a weirdly stagnant way of viewing things at least to me.
 
Anyways, this dumb award show stripped Clair Obscur of its wins of course lmao.

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The devs stated they, like Larian, used AI for placeholder images. As far as I am aware, that was all it was used for.

Even if it wasn't this is beyond, BEYOND retarded for an indie developer award show. Indie devs literally have the most to gain from using AI for development. It opens a million doors for the gaps in the developers weaknesses, allowing them to make a product to their vision while on a budget. But won't somebody please think of the artists???
>disqualify the multi-million dollar AAA studio from the indie game awards because of AI, not because it's a multi-million dollar AAA studio
peak AIDS
 
I really am too attached to this thread. Should I post this much? Let me know.
Anyways, came across this video in my recs. Authored by a prominent AI-seether, the video talks about a twitter argument between former animation storyboarder and insane sperg "John F. Fountain" and an AI bro named SirSpamsALot. Fountain's daughter decided to make art and John showed it to the twitter world. For a 10 year old, this looks ASTOUNDING. Near perfect linework, puts the art I made pre-2020 to shame.
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However, unbeknownst to Fountain, an EEEEEEVIL AI bro would concoct a sinister plan to ruin his daughter's drawing FOREVER. Yes, with the power of NanoBanana, SirSpamsALot would feed Gypsy's art into the orphan crushing machine and... digitize it with some accompanying poses.
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Don't know why SirSpams had to mention it had to take less than 10 seconds to generate the picture. But it doesn't matter, because HE STOLE AN ARTWORK FROM A CHILD!!!! HE STOLE IT PEOPLE. THIS IS EQUIVALENT TO RAPE! According to Friendly Neighborhood Artist, the art "couldn't stay on model" (?) even though aside from the eyes, the other 3 panels look just fine. But alas, this matters not, even community notes is against our Sir.
As usual, Fountain and the rest of the "rational, hecking good human artists" take to BURN this heathen at the stake!
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What does this SirSpams guy have to say in his defense? Well, he does stand his ground I'll give him that. He's clearly in it for the love of the game. He understands that these AI bros are just bitter and that he accepts that AI is the future. Did he have to pick on a 10 year old drawing to do it? Probably not. It was kinda uncalled for, but what matters is what he said.
>It took less than 10 seconds to add color and make new poses. You should show her NanoBanana. It is a fantastic tool for artists!
This means that he didn't actually intend to steal the image at all (not like he could, because these artists do not comprehend the definition of "stealing"). And lets take what he said to heart. "Make new poses," and "add color". Obviously, he's not saying to let AI do ALL the work, but he acknowledges some tips & ideas you can add to your art to diversify the art. It sure is good advice, I'll iterate again, that AI in fact is a great friend to have in the creative process. When you're stuck on an idea, just run whatever you make in an LLM and it can show you the way.
But no, according to these people, AI artists need to DIE and be PISSED ON!
However, part of me is starting to think that this guy is just a bait account, because there's no way one can effortlessly felt so many mentally ill people, quote tweet after quote tweet.

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(BY THE WAY MOST OF THESE SEETHING ANTI's GOT THEIR TWEETS EITHER DELETED BY X TOS. WHICH IS THE FUNNY PART!)
By the way the Youtuber Friendly Neighborhood artist is just annoying, she repeats the same ad hominems, "AI art is stealing wah wah" and all that jizz and cum. You know. Buisness as usual. She/He [IDGAF] also brought up AI child porn when she was reading the Sir post about the "art community crawling with pedophiles". To that I respond, "yeah, AI child porn is a problem, but don't act like the art community is free from degen shit like that!!"
John F(elted) Fountain ends it off by saying AI art shouldn't be banned (understandable) but the AI bros have no "ethics" and are only impatient manchildren who want art NOW!!! (not even close to SirSpamsALot's point. Because the Artists who ran to the defense telling Sir to commit die were totally on the "ethical" side.
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I want you to know that I had to skim parts of this video because not only did I have to sit through FNA's grating ass voice reading each tweet annoyingly, but also I had to lay my eyes on THE WORST FUCKING VTUBER MODEL OF ALL FUCKING TIME!

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If Geiru Toneido (Ace Attorney Clown Boob Lady), the Pokemon Clefable, and Pinkie Pie were tossed into a blender and given 400 mg of perc 30. DISGUSTANG! We need this SirSpamsGuy to generate another Vtuber for this guy and then generate another image of this current vtuber in a dumpster fire. Just obnoxious clown vomit of a character. Looks like something I'd find in a county fair and have nightmares for weeks because of seeing it.
UNRELATED VTUBER WOES ASIDE. I just really think that the Anti's could've "won" against that AI bro by LITERALLY ignoring him. Yes, he should have not done that to that girl's picture, but it makes me so baffled how they didn't think the guy just wanted attention. Like telling him that it's unethical is not going to do shit because not only would he NOT CARE. The reasons they give are incorrect. There's a reason why "DON'T FEED THE TROLLS" is a rule on the internet and artists fail every fucking time at following it. And also, trying to send death threats doesn't make you any better. Once again a #Fellforitagainaward for the artists... I really hate having to associate myself with this "community".
 
Republican senator Marsha Blackburn just unveiled the TRUMP AMERICA AI Act which will make everyone super safe from big bad AI and also fucks with Section 230 for good measure.
I think she believes that putting "Trump" in the name means that he'll support it, but come on, even Trump is not that simple.
 
I have two theories.

(1) Part of the training process for AI is getting humans to rate outputs from models in progress, and this is a job that some people in Africa do (archive). As the linked article will remind you, remote employing an African at a competitive salary for their third-world country is basically slavery and an insult to the dignity of the holy negroid, and it's easy to broken telephone this sentiment into "AI is black slavery."

(2) Every so often you see people arguing against establishing human societies on other planets on that grounds that it is colonialism and colonialism is bad. Applying the same "logic", having an AI servant who tirelessly does stuff you ask it to is slavery and slavery is bad. These people are fundamentally against any kind of human progress and will argue that all funding for higher endeavours should be redirected to subsidising the underclasses.
I don't care what you think about his politics, Gil Scott-Heron was a genius (and a hilarious one at that).
 
want you to know that I had to skim parts of this video because not only did I have to sit through FNA's grating ass voice reading each tweet annoyingly, but also I had to lay my eyes on THE WORST FUCKING VTUBER MODEL OF ALL FUCKING TIME!
one of my favorite AI seethers. reminder that she's literally the embodiment of the fat ogre hiding behind a vtuber avatar
proof from her second channel, get a load of those hooves:
you don't develop mitts like that without a bmi in the 40s.
 
However, unbeknownst to Fountain, an EEEEEEVIL AI bro would concoct a sinister plan to ruin his daughter's drawing FOREVER. Yes, with the power of NanoBanana, SirSpamsALot would feed Gypsy's art into the orphan crushing machine and... digitize it with some accompanying poses.
Something something "You show me the man, I'll show you his crime".
Also lol. Lmao. Not a chance in hell this creature drew and animated this avatar.
 
However, unbeknownst to Fountain, an EEEEEEVIL AI bro would concoct a sinister plan to ruin his daughter's drawing FOREVER. Yes, with the power of NanoBanana, SirSpamsALot would feed Gypsy's art into the orphan crushing machine and... digitize it with some accompanying poses.
Who the fuck names their child after Gypsies? They are so despised that even progressives openly hate them, and those who don't instead will get upset over you naming your white child an ethnic slur. It's like naming your white son Nigger.
 
Who the fuck names their child after Gypsies? They are so despised that even progressives openly hate them, and those who don't instead will get upset over you naming your white child an ethnic slur. It's like naming your white son Nigger.

The vast majority of Americans have never laid eyes on a gypsy and think of them from pop culture like the Hunchback of Notre Dame and various boomer slop like that Cher song.
 
would respect this decision slightly more if they had stood on business and not nominated it in the first place, but this reeks of a publicity stunt and/or attempt to cash in on the growing backlash against this game after its Game Awards sweep.
The timing of this suggests that it was going to sweep their awards too, and they are using this as a pretext to not give it any more awards. The anti-AI rationale is stupid of course but as a business decision it seems way better for the health of the ecosystem to spotlight other games that need help finding bigger audiences. Maybe the rule is if you win certain categories at the VGA you get disqualified from the indies. Or you do the indie awards first like how the indie film awards precede the Oscar voting season.
 
So apparently the people running Jeopardy decided to make a whole ass disclaimer about lolsuing people if they use the show for AI training, and go figure the Bluesky people are happy about it.
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