Hobbies ruined by other people thread - And corporations, and trends, and so forth.

[Aero Soul]

Troons and SJWs are ruining the anime fandom. Just a bunch of tourists

 

[Retarded of the Month]

Troons and SJWs are ruining the anime fandom. Just a bunch of tourists

They used to be the bullies before they started to act as "the right side of history/good people", so you know that, even after school, the bully still bullies the nerd (and everyone in general)

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Troons and SJWs are ruining the anime fandom. Just a bunch of tourists

Nah. Commercialization is ruining anime. Back in the day when the only way for low powerlevel individuals to get anime was to watch Toonami (and that's assuming you even knew that shit was Japanese, not everyone did back then) if you wanted anime and weren't a low power level individual you import the shit yourself and then either fansub or fandub it there was a natural filter in place since why would you waste the time or money to do that for something that's terrible or subpar? Nowadays with all these officially licensed dubs and subs we're getting everything including the dross, and the translation companies are hot dogshit because they need to do this quickly and on the cheap so who cares.

Discussion of anime may have gotten worse due to the influx of trannies and SJWs but let's not delude ourselves into thinking that the anime fandom in the west was ever anything other than the smelly weird kids that nobody liked who have now grown to become the smelly weird adults that nobody likes.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Troons and SJWs are ruining the anime fandom. Just a bunch of tourists

Objection: troons are literally anime fans but turned into their dream anime grill. They're not tourists, their your neighbors you grew up with in ill-fitting dresses and cat earred headbands. They're still ruining it, but they're end stage brainrot for several autists who started out as anime fans. The problem is coming from inside the house.

 

[Scale Smerch]

For a hobby not noticeably infected yet: scale model building.

I've yet to see noticeable troon presence among the scale military modeller communities I'm in, or even, hilariously enough, the girlpla ones where it's more likely to manifest given the material. Dealing with autistic rivet counters and the room temperature coomers is nothing when you know what lies past the gates in the great abyss beyond. Makes for some very comfortable times, in part because the usual suspects don't have the hand-eye coordination (and artistic skill) necessary to engage with the hobby,

 

[LaughJoke2.0]

Probably been stated already but comics and sci-fi have taken massive hits thanks to them becoming more mainstream and thus the rise of "Nerd Culture" TBBT and Collider did a lot of damage and of course Troons Trannies ruin everything they touch.

 

[The Lawgiver]

Objection: troons are literally anime fans but turned into their dream anime grill. They're not tourists, their your neighbors you grew up with in ill-fitting dresses and cat earred headbands. They're still ruining it, but they're end stage brainrot for several autists who started out as anime fans. The problem is coming from inside the house.

COUNTERPOINT: most of them brag about "going through a second puberty/childhood after trooning and cherrypick larp elements from the time before current year eternal. A lot of the "cringe" they're pulling from is nearing if not over 20 years ago now and is performative rather than genuine. I don't think I've seen a genuine "cringe" weeb in over a decade, even the younger ones are just copying the polititroon mantras and narratives when talking about any fucking media it seems.

Modern "performatively cringe" weebs and troons would never be able to come up with novel unique wacky shit like "I write the japanese gay porn word in english on a pizza paddle and beat you in the ass with it so you're gay haha". They can parrot it, imitate it, but they will never understand the way such a thing comes into being and why it stayed in the minds of people even after the things got banned from everywhere that sold them.

EDIT: Also should have probably stated the obvious. There is no way they will become, or even look like their "dream anime girl". Going off that fact, they could not "turn into" it!
Anime girls tend to be generally thin and human as opposed to shrek the ogre in drag.

Probably been stated already but comics and sci-fi have taken massive hits thanks to them becoming more mainstream and thus the rise of "Nerd Culture" TBBT and Collider did a lot of damage and of course Troons Trannies ruin everything they touch.

Scifi and comics had been mainstream for decades before those things showed up, there wouldn't have been shit like countless TV shows and movies as far back as the general start of those if they weren't to an extent. Those things you listed though definitely played into the rot that followed.

Some comics could be "obscure" for sure but the marvel and DC superheo guys ain't that no matter how much modern media people and video essayists try to spin things lmao

 

[AMHOLIO]

COUNTERPOINT: most of them brag about "going through a second puberty/childhood after trooning and cherrypick larp elements from the time before current year eternal. A lot of the "cringe" they're pulling from is nearing if not over 20 years ago now and is performative rather than genuine. I don't think I've seen a genuine "cringe" weeb in over a decade, even the younger ones are just copying the polititroon mantras and narratives when talking about any fucking media it seems.

COUNTER-COUNTERPOINT: We are not in the time of cringe fun like we were back then. The amount of normies watching anime and manga is at an all time high to the point it is mainstream. Anime fans in their 20s & 30s have a different culture for a reason, including troons. The only difference between troons and most deep into it anime fans is that one talks about fetish shit more.

This one is sadly because... we're getting older.

 

[LaughJoke2.0]

My grandparents were born in 1915, 1917, and 1922 my grandfathers were both dead before 1990 and my grandmothers died by 2000. All four of them knew Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman thanks to films and tv and that was about it. They had no idea about 99 percent of Marvel.

My parents were Boomers who were teens when Marvel came to be from the ashes of Timely/Atlas and they never read a Marvel Comic. They knew DC comics and through cultural osmosis knew about Hulk thanks to the tv show, Captain America, and Spider-Man and Spidey was a Macy Day Parade Float to them but that was it heck my mum discovered the X-Men when I watched the 90's show.

Most people didn't even know Blade was a Marvel Character, but it all changed with X-Men and Raimi's Spider-Man and then the MCU. There is no denying the 2010's belonged to the comic book genre and made household names out of characters that before the films were obscure even to some comic fans like the GOTG.

As for Sci-Fi outside of Star Wars which was considered Sci-Fi Fantasy most Sci-Fi was always considered a niche genre if you were into Sci-Fi, you were labeled a "Nerd" back in the day. Even in the Nerd community in America things like Dr. Who and Red Dwarf were obscure because you only got to watch that stuff if your local PBS aired it. But with cable in the 2000's they aired on Sci-Fi Channel and BBC America, and they began marketing to Americans and casting young hip "Sexy" doctors to get those fangurls into it. 2009 Star Trek went mainstream it was starting to dumb down and become more action oriented with the TNG Films, but the JJ films were made to be more appealing to the larger general audience.

Then there was Comic-Con conventions and Cons were full of Nerds and 90 percent men. 2000's starting with the granddaddy of them all San Diego they started going Hollywood and you started having Sexy Girls in Cosplay. Even mid-sized cities can now get a good number of old celebrities to do Cons but back in the day if you were in a Pittsburgh or a Detroit or Cleveland or something you were lucky if you got one or two actors from a Sci-Fi show that was cancel decades ago and the rest of the "Celebrity" guest were extras from films. I can't tell you back in 1999 how many sad fuckers I saw at Cons hocking their pics with signatures and they'd have a set photo of them from the TPM and their action figure because Lucas was making figures for every character with 1 second of screen time at the time. People lined up for the Aurra Sing actress because they thought from her design, she was destined to be huge. But bitch went the way of the beanie baby.

So no, it's not revisionist history to say this shit went mainstream. Ask yourself how many big screen DC and Marvel movies there were before 2000 that weren't named Superman or Batman.

Once they went Mainstream you had what I call Nerd Gentrification you had these hipster faggots who moved into the community and pushed us OGs out.

 

[Meat Target]

There is no way they will become, or even look like their "dream anime girl". Going off that fact, they could not "turn into" it!
Anime girls tend to be generally thin and human as opposed to shrek the ogre in drag.

Even if they could, it wouldn't change their underlying personality disorders. I compare it to that episode of Fairly Odd Parents where Timmy wishes everyone looked like the same gray blobs, but Dr. Bender and his son are still arrogant because of who they are on the inside.

 

[neger psykolog]

umm sweaty

What the fuck is with people constantly misspelling this? It's "umm sweety" not "sweaty"...
The other thing is "rogue" which people spell as "gone rouge" which is a color.

 

[Pargon]

What the fuck is with people constantly misspelling this? It's "umm sweety" not "sweaty"...
The other thing is "rogue" which people spell as "gone rouge" which is a color.

They’re both memes. The first I believe I saw coming from Tumblr. The other is just a language/spelling joke just poking fun at people who misspell and completely change the connotation of the sentence, like the cologne/colon thing.

 

[The Lawgiver]

So no, it's not revisionist history to say this shit went mainstream. Ask yourself how many big screen DC and Marvel movies there were before 2000 that weren't named Superman or Batman.

No, it is revisionist history, at least the bullshit I'm referring to is. There is a difference between the actual big name characters and the various characters they came up with afterwards. I agree about the 2000s being a really big boost for them...

There is no denying the 2010's belonged to the comic book genre and made household names out of characters that before the films were obscure even to some comic fans like the GOTG.

But I also kind of disagree with this shit about the 2010s being the best time for this. There were a number of good movies and ones that were less so, but midway point-ish the capeshit genre of comics as they say were kind of falling the fuck apart and are still doing so in a way where I haven't felt any need to look at anything from it for the most part. Not gonna go into a huge ramble about that right now.

My point earlier specifically was how every few years on loop since the buddings of current year eternal, I've been exposed to shit claiming "oh wow comics/anime/video games are just NOW mainstream this year!!" and then a year or 2 later, it fucking happens again and everyone acts like the last time they claimed that never happened. It's a fucking sliding timeline of corporate investor hype completely removed from all fact. A more accurate statement would likely be that during the 90s-2000s there was a big push that resulted in a lot more publicity that was then kind of coasted on during the 2010s. The comics grading/scalping shitshow and "crash" was early 90s but that whole thing definitely kind of was the start of what was to come later. Might not be making sense as I'm really groggy right now.

I can't tell you back in 1999 how many sad fuckers I saw at Cons hocking their pics with signatures and they'd have a set photo of them from the TPM and their action figure because Lucas was making figures for every character with 1 second of screen time at the time.

Personally I think stuff like this is more in the spirit of conventions than when they get big name Hollywood people. The last few cons I was at (all during the 2010s lmao) were pretty small ones out of state that'd somehow pull a mix of big and small names but also got some really cool stuff like one of the guys who was a suit actor for a bunch of TV scifi stuff. I got two or three photo prints from a guy that did some stuff for classic doctor who, fucking crazy to think it's been a decade since then now.

What the fuck is with people constantly misspelling this? It's "umm sweety" not "sweaty"...
The other thing is "rogue" which people spell as "gone rouge" which is a color.

It's specifically a meme intentionally misspelling stuff to make fun of people who condescendingly call others sweetie.

 

[LaughJoke2.0]

I never said best time I said they owned it. You can't argue that in the 2010's more comic book movies and tv shows were made and released. As for the 90's I worked in a Comic Book Store at the time and while there was a speculation bubble thanks to the Death of Superman most people in the general public had no idea who most comic book characters where outside of the DC Trinity.

As for Marvel most normies in the 90's who were adults knew Captain America and Spidey and I doubt they could tell you their real names. Hulk they would have remembered from the tv show and probably didn't know he was based off a comic. Iron Man was known as an Ozzy Song, Thor was a Norse God not a comic character, and Black Panther was the civil rights group. Today people know Ant-Man, Rocket Racoon, Thanos, if you told me that would have been a thing back in the 90's I would have thought you were crazy.

It's like Transformers 20 years ago you wore a Decepticon or Autobot shirt it felt cool like a secret code now because of Bayformers its embarrassing like people might think you like that dog shit.

Edited for Typo

 

[The Lawgiver]

It's like Transformers 20 years ago you were a Decepticon or Autobot shirt it felt cool like a secret code now because of Bayformers its embarrassing like people might think you like that dog shit.

I just had the horrible realization that the michael bay transformers movie is gonna be 20 years old soon.

 

[Return of the Freaker]

What the fuck is with people constantly misspelling this? It's "umm sweety" not "sweaty"...
The other thing is "rogue" which people spell as "gone rouge" which is a color.

"Sweaty" came from tumblr feminists 10-15 years ago vomiting their feeling-opinions condescendingly at their imagined enemies. They were'nt very good at spelling.

 

[The Lawgiver]

"Sweaty" came from tumblr feminists 10-15 years ago vomiting their feeling-opinions condescendingly at their imagined enemies. They were'nt very good at spelling.

It came from people making fun of them but those kinds of people seem to have since then somewhat adopted it much like how people sarcastically called them woke but now woke has been warped into the most buzzwordiest of buzzwords witht hem acting like it was always meant to describe them being the way they are when the whole fucking point was they were the complete opposite of awake/aware of bad shit like the old slang term would usually imply.

 

[FedPostalService]

Not quite a hobby, but atheism was so ruined by Redditors and feminists that zoomers pretend to be trad orthodox catholic warriors of Allah rather than engage with it philosophically.

Christ is kang or something. Now give me a superchat to read a bible verse, you fatherless zoomers.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Not quite a hobby, but atheism was so ruined by Redditors and feminists that zoomers pretend to be trad orthodox catholic warriors of Allah rather than engage with it philosophically.

Christ is kang or something. Now give me a superchat to read a bible verse, you fatherless zoomers.

I wish social media didn't allow people to weaponize being morally virtuous and right over actually thinking about your values. Back in the day these people would be confined to cliques in their towns and cities, now everyone from social butterflies to absolute shut ins can become moral crusaders of ANY religion, morality, or philosophy you fucking want. Annoying people who's only talent is telling others their business used to have to work for it by going outside & actually interacting with the community, which at least meant they were likely to contribute something along the way. Now they can spam copy/paste arguments and pithy sayings on social media and ebeg on stream.

I wish all of them a very merry shut the fuck up and stop making the rest of their/our community look like busybody losers who want social power over people.

 

[A Deer In Headlights]

I wouldn't consider it as much of a hobby for me anymore, but growing up I was really into Pokémon cards. Never did anything competitively since I was too stupid to figure out how to find the energy cards I needed since at the time they didn't come with the packs, but it was fun to look at the cool artwork and the hit of dopamine of getting a holographic card. Even after high school I would still occasionally buy a pack for fun when I was in checkout at a store, like a gambling addict buying a scratch ticket, just to see if I could get anything cool.

Now in recent years there's been a huge problem with scalpers buying boxes of booster packs and stacks of battle deck boxes just in the hopes they can sell a rare $0.50 piece of cardboard for $30 at some shitty card bazaar at the mall to help cover the costs of spending $2,000 on cards from Costco. Even worse is that now kids can't even get into the card game because by the time they get to a store there's already a scalpers clearing the whole shelf or there's only the more expensive Elite Trainer boxes ($50-120+) instead of the cheapo 10 card booster packs ($6).