GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

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残念。 said:
I think that's just a potential issue any time you're messing with non oem stuff.
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AX210 best NIC. Windows or Linux, it just works. It's Intel™.

I think you could technically turn it into a USB adapter with some sort of M.2 PCIe to USB adapter, no?
 
Slav Power said:
AX210 best NIC. Windows or Linux, it just works. It's Intel™.

I think you could technically turn it into a USB adapter with some sort of M.2 PCIe to USB adapter, no?
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I think that's the one I installed in my laptop because the OEM sucked dick on linux. Works great.
 
Slav Power said:
AX210 best NIC. Windows or Linux, it just works. It's Intel™.

I think you could technically turn it into a USB adapter with some sort of M.2 PCIe to USB adapter, no?
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Man Intel is never not going to make me a salty person because the cards after the AX210 they've locked down and only intel processors can make use of them.

I understand why but man it really sucks that they're now intel only.
 
The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:
Nothing looks good, maybe I'll tag you with a deal if I see something on SD.
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Thanks, I appreciate it, but no need. I don't need a new PC. My basic bitch 6600 gpu and 5600x cpu build is working great. It does what I need it to do.

Slav Power said:
Again, apply some Occam's razor for once. If Microsoft wanted to force everyone to use Windows in the cloud, they wouldn't be working on AI features that run locally so that you'll buy a CoPilot+ laptop to run Windows directly on it.
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What are you talking about?

You keep assuming bad faith, overly emotional fanboys/haters. You assume something being profitable is enough for MS. People are using cloud computing, but not at the rate they want.

A great example is the enshitification of streaming. Netflix was great. Then every company opened their own streaming service, and they were all shit. The survivors are jacking up their prices while decreasing quality. We've seen a resurgence of piracy and some even going back to physical media as a result.

Cloud, just like AI, promises to be an infinite money pit that gives them unlimited control and profit potential. Every bit of software has gone subscription based for that reason.

Like you said, Xbox has been losing money for decades, or at best breaking even. In recent years gaming has lost it's status as a potential infinite money printer and propaganda machine as normies reject AAA games being £80 a pop.
 
Judge Dredd said:
What are you talking about?
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I'm talking about how the whole "Microsoft will force you to use Windows in a cloud" fear mongering doesn't hold up if you think rationally about Microsoft's current business model.

They dominate the desktop OS market, full stop. Everyone is using Windows. It's no secret Windows collects user data which is then sold to advertisers. Not only that, it's still paid software, and for business use you have to pay for a full legitimate license as to not get fucked over when the software authenticity inspection comes around. Microsoft is also betting on CoPilot+ machines which goes against the idea of the "Windows in a cloud" theory. Why would they bet on giving customers machines that run AI, and by extent Windows locally, if they could sell thin clients that would run AI, and by extent Windows in the cloud? Clearly Microsoft is far from pulling this "Windows in a cloud" scenario everyone keeps yapping about despite there being no proof of it being planned. Similarly the whole "Windows monthly subscription" theory is weak as hell. Windows has been "software as a service" ever since 10. There are no longer physical disks being sold, you just get a license key, you download an ISO from Microsoft's website and install it. Hell, even if you don't have a license key you can download and install that ISO and guess what, Windows 10/11 are just in infinite trial mode. All that's different is that "Activate Windows" watermark and not being able to personalize your desktop. Otherwise it's 99% of Windows functionality for free. Why would Microsoft bother with doing subscriptions for something that they're already offering as practically free? Because they already make money with this product, and that product are the users. Windows is the third most profitable product of Microsoft, second being Office and first being Azure, with Azure bringing in more revenue than Office and Windows combined.

Same with Windows 12 fearmongering, everything people say about Windows 12 is bullshit because there is not a single piece of evidence that Microsoft is planning to abandon 11 and force people to move to 12. There already have been articles predicting that 12 would release a few months ago, yet here we are with no first party sources about Windows 12 happening. This is what's really annoying me, people keep sourcing their information about Microsoft and Windows from clickbait articles that are nothing but rumors and theories and getting overly emotional in hating Microsoft instead of being rational about how shitty Windows 11 actually is. And whenever I try and lay out the facts of how bad 11 actually is, everyone just calls me a corporate shill, because apparently you can lie all you want about Microsoft and Windows but when the same smarmy journalists smear Kiwi Farms as a stalking hate site then it's suddenly an uproar. Either all of it's okay or none of it's okay, if you choose to buy into blatant journo lies when they benefit your personal views, you don't get to complain when the same journos lie about you, period.

As for using Xbox as "proof" that Windows will totally become a cloud service be scared switch to Linux/mac/TempleOS nownownownow bullshit, here's the thing. Xbox is not Windows. Completely different business models and completely different markets. Microsoft is not the only player in the space as they also have Sony, Nintendo, and of course Valve. Of course, Windows for gaming is maybe 1% of Windows' market, most Windows customers are businesses and home users that treat Windows as a web browser frontend. Xbox has been circling the drain as practically all the games they have to offer can already be played on PlayStation and PC. PlayStation has the benefit of having some exclusives and PC has the benefit of being a much bigger platform. Xbox has nothing. Not only that, Xbox's revenue hinges on people both buying Xbox consoles as well as Xbox games. So far, people weren't very keen on buying neither. The market is too competitive, Xbox is doing too little to stay competitive, and the only thing that Xbox has is Game Pass.

Remember, this is all in context of corporate profitability within Microsoft. Xbox is moving to cloud gaming only as that's the only saving grace they still have to bring in profit to the shareholders. Windows has practically zero competition, the Windows NT ecosystem is unique and the sole dominant force in the x86 desktop market across every use case of x86 desktops, Linux is not even a blip on the radar in this space so Microsoft doesn't have a need to try and pull dumb shit like this. Windows is already profitable, and everything wrong about 11 stems from very simple reasons: AI bubble where everything has to be AI and made by AI, leading to useless AI "features" and AI code that's causing issues for the stability of the OS, and wanting to gather more data on the biggest customer market which are cheap laptops with Windows Home where now you have to use a Microsoft account to use it, so an evolution of Windows' market strategy since 10.

There is no need for Microsoft to make Windows a cloud only OS or make it a monthly subscription because Windows isn't starving for money. I implore you to look through various articles about those apparent upcoming changes to Windows where it'll be cloud only or that Windows 12 will be out and verify the sources of the "information" within them. If you won't be able to find anything that isn't a rumor, then that should be your wake up call to stop believing every single headline about Microsoft and Windows and apply some critical thinking.
 
"Cloud Windows" doesn't even make sense. The purpose of your operating system is to orchestrate your computer's hardware so that programs will run and have access to devices. You would still need a local operating system to get your machine up and running so that it could run your networked operating system.

So now you have a computer running two operating systems. The local one lives in RAM with 25-75 GB/s of bandwidth to the CPU at 2ns latency, while the other lives remotely with 0.03 GB/s of bandwidth at 50,000 ns latency.
 
Curry Teafag said:
You can. It's just less straightforward.
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Yes, mingling with the registry where it's technically possible much like doing Pro versions related tasks on Home versions, but that's not the point. The point is that the way Microsoft ships unactivated Windows is practically 99% of it's functionality being available in perpetuity, and they couldn't give two shits about home users running unactivated Windows, or activated Windows, or cracked Windows or LTSC Windows. As long they run Windows that's a net benefit for them. If you don't act like a raging spastic and think for two seconds then this whole gossip of "cloud Windows" is complete and utter nonsense. Microsoft is still determined to keep Windows as an operating system that runs locally on your hardware, and they'd have more to lose than to gain when trying the "cloud" approach people keep predicting out of a crystal ball.
The Ugly One said:
"Cloud Windows" doesn't even make sense.
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It makes perfect sense because "cloud" is evil, "Microsoft" is evil, and evil conspires to spread evil. What, you think that people who foam at the mouth when they see "Microsoft" or "Windows" think rationally about what's actually going on?
 
Overly Serious said:
Oh, Linux has been languishing like this for many years. I'd forgive it in the early days because it wasn't meant to be for ordinary users. But post-Ubuntu multiple distros have been trying to be the friendly to non-technical people distro and they're still not there. However...
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Hot take: Linux filters midwits! It is perfectly fine for more advanced users and 70+ year old women. Advanced users will seek out information and apply it to get what they want while grandma won't even try to install a program. Those that fall in between those two types of users will have a rough time because they know that it possible to wirelessly connect to a projector and they've done it thousand times. But only in Windows.

The Ugly One said:
"Cloud Windows" doesn't even make sense. The purpose of your operating system is to orchestrate your computer's hardware so that programs will run and have access to devices. You would still need a local operating system to get your machine up and running so that it could run your networked operating system.

So now you have a computer running two operating systems. The local one lives in RAM with 25-75 GB/s of bandwidth to the CPU at 2ns latency, while the other lives remotely with 0.03 GB/s of bandwidth at 50,000 ns latency.
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It's stupid but it could work, I've edited video over RDP on a laptop that was 1500km away and other than the slight sound latency(a real problem when trying to sync sound) it was fine. But the idea of cloud windows goes to shit as soon as you locally connect a drive with the 112GB 8k video file and try to import it into...
 
Slav Power said:
Same with Windows 12 fearmongering, everything people say about Windows 12 is bullshit because there is not a single piece of evidence that Microsoft is planning to abandon 11 and force people to move to 12.
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There's no evidence microsoft is working on a successor to windows 10, they repeatedly stated it is going be the last windows version. They can just use windows update from now on. Why would they bother releasing a new operating system after doing that

I mean what are they even going to add to a new windows version? Ai? Lol
 
big pauper said:
There's no evidence microsoft is working on a successor to windows 10, they repeatedly stated it is going be the last windows version. They can just use windows update from now on. Why would they bother releasing a new operating system after doing that

I mean what are they even going to add to a new windows version? Ai? Lol
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People that complain about windows often are highly autistic. Windows 11 works. Cry harder the old is dying.
 
big pauper said:
they repeatedly stated
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Except Microsoft never even said that, Journalists misinterpreted what Microsoft said, then repeated it for years, and they keep repeating it believing that Microsoft actually said it.
The exact same journalists that misinterpreted this quote and spread it around are the same journalists that have been spreading Windows 12 rumors. And if you haven't noticed already, you've bought into sloppy """journalism""" and accepted it as fact without checking twice whether or not what you've heard is true.

If anything, it's this sloppy journalism that ruined Windows 11 more than Microsoft ruined Windows 11. And every time I try to correct these facts I get called a corporate shill because you're supposed to endlessly spread lies about Windows and only Windows, any myth or lie about other operating systems has to be clarified as such. Rules for me not for thee, real classy considering the site we're on and what it had to deal with.
Smaug's Smokey Hole 2 said:
Hot take: Linux filters midwits!
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It is indeed a hot take, since Linux is actually the greatest midwit magnet there is. Especially Arch. People who actually don't understand how the OS works, but feel intellectually superior just because they're using it.
 
WelperHelper99 said:
People that complain about windows often are highly autistic. Windows 11 works. Cry harder the old is dying.
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We're posting on the chris chan forum. Every single one of us is cripplingly autistic. If anything, pointlessly simping for a new version of software with a clearly documented regression in features and performance is the realm of normies and, dare I say this: Women
 
The Ugly One said:
"Cloud Windows" doesn't even make sense. The purpose of your operating system is to orchestrate your computer's hardware so that programs will run and have access to devices. You would still need a local operating system to get your machine up and running so that it could run your networked operating system.

So now you have a computer running two operating systems. The local one lives in RAM with 25-75 GB/s of bandwidth to the CPU at 2ns latency, while the other lives remotely with 0.03 GB/s of bandwidth at 50,000 ns latency.
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cloud windows would be chromeos. Microsoft tried really hard to push people to use cloud services over local network ooptions by constantly nagging you about using OneDrive until you uninstall the app. When that didn't work to get more users, they completely removed the workgroups feature, making local filesharing difficult to set up.

yeah, it's probably nothing. Just some people fear mongering because some faggy journalists whispered a bunch of lies in their ear, lol.
 
Slav Power said:
Most people who kvetched about 10 never left Windows despite how much they declared they would, and the same will happen with 11.
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I think what ultimately got me to leave 10 after all my kvetching was Windows Update fucking up my OS, requiring me to set everything up again anyway.
Also the situation is different now because 5 years ago most games only ran on windows.
I agree though most people will stay on windows and maybe thats for the best.

seri0us said:
but also a fucking Zune
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Did it squirt?
 
Smaug's Smokey Hole 2 said:
Yes, they will run into trouble, that's what I meant
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Except learning Linux isn't hard. However Linux midwits believe that if they use Arch they are superior to everybody else and are the smartest guy in the room, even though Arch basically handholds you if you read their wiki which doesn't make them any special. But they feel like they are, and they're the worst part about Linux. Always the loudest, yet always the stupidest. At least they won't stay on Windows since their midwit superiority complex can't allow them to use something that everyone on the planet uses.
 
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