Okay so we are making the "getting his shit raped is based, actually, because he got raped on purpose" argument. It's a bold stance, I'll give you that.
No, the argument is that Lucas cares a lot less about Star Wars than you, and that's based.
Four and a half, which is one billion more than Disney's initial offer and half a billion more than Disney bought Marvel for.
Lucasfilm/Lucasarts in the early 2010s was a shell of what it was even half a decade before, let alone around the turn of the millennium. The prequel momentum had died out, the only thing being put out were Filoni Clone Wars, The Force Unleashed and a failed WoW-killer, Lucas had already torpedoed Indiana Jones with Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, and criticizing the Prequels in general and Lucas in particular was at its cultural apex (in part because of RLM). His multimedia empire was in a comparable state to pre-Disney Marvel at the time.
You're phrasing the same idea in a less embarrassing way and calling it a new argument. I suppose the difference is meant to be that, in this disaffected framing, he's a roguish folk hero who hoodwinked the globohomo media empire with a raw deal and rode off into the sunset to the cheering of the townsfolk.
Marvel was basically a dead brand at that point. I'm impressed they went for that much almost as much as I am that LucasArts went for so little.
Lucas wanted to distance himself from Star Wars even before Return of the Jedi was made, so him cashing it out for billions and continuing not to give a fuck about it seems like a win for him.
No, I'm saying you're attributing embarrassment where there is none. Mainstream opinion did not turn against Lucas for selling to Disney, and Disney's handling of Star Wars was the single best thing to happen to his public perception since the release of TPM. You can say his legacy - which is much larger than Star Wars as ILM, Skywalker Sounds and THX all owe their success to him - being Disney driving Star Wars into the ground is somehow some great moral failing on his part, sure, but I think you're greatly overestimating the amount of people who care about Lucas or actively hold a negative opinion of him.
LucasArts by that point was a zombie company. They had two major IPs, only one of which was actually culturally relevant, and were only producing a cartoon and The Force Unleashed by that point. To put this in perspective Disney acquired Pixar for seven and a half billion because Iger noticed that all the new animated characters that kids cared about were made by Pixar.
Mainstream opinion was already against him when he sold to Disney. I would not estimate it has significantly improved among anyone other than true believers nostalgic for the good old days where they could buy their heaps of merch without guilt. The prequels are still frequently clowned upon, and Crystal Skull has never been rehabilitated even to the limited degree the prequels were.
If apathy is the yardstick you measure victory by, I suppose so. Lucas does clearly give no fucks.
That is true, the timeline was nebulous in my memory.
Nice! They synched their commentary to the "theatrical cut" of Jingle All The Way, which I cannot find a torrent of for the life of me. Only the Director's Cut on the high seas.
Sure, but that's not what's being argued. Lucas has never particularly cared about what people think of his movies, he was always petulantly insistent that they were his movies before selling. That might have been hypocritical, but he only did so under assurance that he would have an extensive degree of creative input/control that was promptly reneged on.
I think you are overestimating the amount of people who hate him. The average person who didn't like the prequels doesn't have some hateboner for Lucas, they just think he made some bad movies and got over it like he did. The sorts of people who took to streetcorners to sing songs about how Lucas raped their childhood have always been a minority and have only become more of one in the years since; if we were to actually take tally of people who actively hold a positive opinion about Lucas' qualities, again, it would likely have only increased because of Disney. Anecdotally that is what I have seen, even if a good bit of it is in the form of backhanded compliments.
Then you must not be plugged into the discourse because that's effectively the opposite of my experience and that of everyone else in the Star Wars Griefing and EFAP/Mauler threads, which are the two other big threads for talk about stuff like this.
When was this commentary made?
There's literally dozens of torrents for that movie on 1337x.to. Are you sure none of them is the right one?
God, how do you write something like this and not immediately die from a fatal case of douche chills?
They mentioned the year 2019 at one point (when Mike was joking about the end of the company), so it was quite a while ago.
Don't give up hope. There's still time.
I won't argue with the rest of your post because it's fair enough, but I will argue with this narrow point.
