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Enjoying the new Twitter feature that reveals most of the "feminism bad repeal the 19th women evil men good" "True and Honest American conservative" accounts turned out to be
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Her twitter is full of a lot of funny malding. She also retweeted/quotetweeted (idk the difference, I don't use twitter) Dear Sneeder's defense of her, but I don't think it was to endorse it.
One person offered their theory on why there so many men seething at this woman
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Basically TL;DR: Skill Issue
 
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I think some right-wing men get mad at those sort of "my education and my career is my life" women because they automatically assume that they are anti motherhood or family, wether that's true for the individual woman in question or not.

I will admit it's hard to sympathize with the borderline antinatalist green line go up "babies are parasites" type of woman. However that type of woman is pretty rare and basically only lives in five metropolitan areas but they extrapolate her to any woman with a degree and a white collar job.

The problem with the "gender wars" is that it's normally a fairly small and loud group of men and women that think almost every person of the opposite sex is the worst version of the opposite sex possible.

the women view every man as a retarded, violent absolutely negroidal rapist that will never grow up and take responsibility and just want to use her like meat and the men view every woman as a vapid, manipulative, cruel, self destructive, monster who would happily claim you raped her just to ruin your life for making her feel a negative emotion.

Its a fucking brain poison that spreads and makes other men and women adopt the same mindset and then when both sides clash they just end up reinforcing what the others believe. It's a vicious terrible cycle.

My extreme belief is that the gender wars and 90% of all pointless social conflict would end if we just killed people that don't have jobs.
 
The problem with the "gender wars" is that it's normally a fairly small and loud group of men and women that think almost every person of the opposite sex is the worst version of the opposite sex possible.
The internet has acted as a megaphone for the worst of every community to be held up like personification of that community to rage against, its a perfected machine designed to milk out the emotions of lust and rage with algorithms to boost engagement. Whilst fostering an environment where the worst can meet and form communities over anything, even the most retarded and fringe beliefs.

The internet is the sole reason why fetishes have become so wide spread, never before has some moids sick perversions been supported by vast instant access to all of human knowledge to find their sicking desire.

The genie is truly out of the bottle now with the internet, and i wish we could shut it down, but if somehow the internet went away permanently i think that would solve almost half of all modern gender war, culture war, moral panic struggle sessions going on endlessly.

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Enjoying the new Twitter feature that reveals most of the "feminism bad repeal the 19th women evil men good" "True and Honest American conservative" accounts turned out to be
Indian or some other form of turd world brown
I am not surprised in the slightest.
I've been saying that they sound a lot like Muslim extremists. Even if they say they're Christian, they still act Muslim and India also has a growing Christian population that's probably larger than any European country's Christian population (since India in total has 1.4 billion people). On the Xitter location thread, there was literally a Bible quotes account from India.
 
I haven’t posted in this thread in awhile, so I’m not sure what’s going on, but that girl that recorded the naked guy while doing the door dash delivery should not have had charges against her.

You do not knowingly order Door Dash, see your delivery person is a woman, take your pants off, “forget” your delivery is on the way, and leave the door wide open. That is a planned chain of events.

Moid was a predator, and he got caught. Can’t believe the girl is getting charges pressed against her. Women are often victims when they have to drop off things to men’s homes or hotel rooms. Men will open the door in the nude or harass housekeepers trying to clean up with them inside the room.

This is known shit and the men on this forum are retards for not realizing it.
E X A C T L Y! So many, even here in the man hate thread, defending a man and not believing a woman. Meanwhile every single hotel maid/housekeeper/free lance house cleaner/ delivery woman I know has at minimum one story of a disgusting moid being inappropriate and getting his gross dick out.
 
People forget when I hate on BPDemons/Cluster Bs that it's not a sex-exclusive thing. I've met both male and female Cluster Bs. MTFs are a great example of male Cluster Bs. Cluster Bs also attract each other, so if you're a man who's "only ever dated BPD/crazy girls", then you probably need to do some soul-searching yourself as I imagine you also have Cluster B traits. Cluster Bs are turned off by normal calm behavior, and they view rapid highs-and-lows as "exciting". Men who say crazy chicks are their type are probably also crazy themselves. I can't stand BPD women, and I also can't stand "XD You want a woman with trauma but the right kind of trauma that makes them kinky" men either. (A man has actually said this to me before.) The BPD+NPD couple dynamic pairing is extremely common, because they play off of each others' symptoms in really unhealthily codependent ways.
Do TIMs suffer from cluster B or is it just unchecked porn usage and an ever more permissive society catering to their disgusting fetishes?
 
Just found out North Dakota's Supreme Court upheld the states abortion ban. It is now illegal in both states.
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When men tell you they don't want any punishment for women getting abortions, they're lying. Let Dusty Deevers tell you the plain truth.
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Do TIMs suffer from cluster B or is it just unchecked porn usage and an ever more permissive society catering to their disgusting fetishes?
Both! Cluster B traits are overrepresented among TIMs, particularly NPD, and that's not helped by a permissive environment. Here's a study on Iranian trannies. (It included 70 people, TIMs and TIFs, and you can see a breakdown of which disorders occurred most frequently by sex.) 64.1% of MTFs fit the criteria for NPD - wowy! 48.4% of the FTMs also fit the criteria for NPD, surprising absolutely nobody who has been in the Pooner Zoo or Fanfiction Horrors threads, but this is the misandry thread.

I think it would be neat to see a breakdown on the frequency of grandiose vs vulnerable/covert narcissism among trannies, since vulnerable narcissism is probably more applicable to the numerous small-time cows you tend to see in the Tranny Sideshows thread. There are plenty of grandiose narc trannies, like Nick Contino, but I suspect the vulnerable presentation is more common among them. Like, you see more trannies presenting their entitlement complexes as "please just allow my antisocial behavior, as a treat, because I am so vulnerable and pitiable and kicked down by this cruel world that I will literally kill myself if I can't invade women's spaces." The population that says "I am actually the best and cis women want to be me and I swear this is not a cope" is smaller, although it is louder.

Personally, I think it would be good if psych professionals considered heavy porn use as alarming as heavy alcohol use, in the sense that it's a "need something to fill this void and make me able to bear normal life stressors" trait, and that it's linked to destructive beliefs and behavior towards others.
 
People for real think Cluster B disorders a specifically female thing?
Is it that they don't see the Antisocial disorder as a real disorder, just like they don't see anger as an emotion?
 
Most crime (especially domestic crimes like child or spouse abuse) are intraracial, when they let those criminals out because they want to protect "victims of society" they only victimize who they say they want to help even more. Black criminals endanger white people sure, but they unironically endanger blacks more. If America were to enact a standard like Glaude it would unironically increase the domestic crime statistics like two fold.

Also if I was a native woman in Canada and I saw that abusive men from my culture faced less punishment for their behavior I would probably consider avoiding them completely for relationship purposes.
Another fucked up element of Gladue is that perpetrators can just say they’re Native and have no need to prove it. There’s a lot of tribes who are against DNA testing for validity because they know it would expose a lot of racial frauds from tribes.

A lotta white men up here are suddenly Métis after murdering their girlfriends and kids.
 
Another fucked up element of Gladue is that perpetrators can just say they’re Native and have no need to prove it. There’s a lot of tribes who are against DNA testing for validity because they know it would expose a lot of racial frauds from tribes.

A lotta white men up here are suddenly Métis after murdering their girlfriends and kids.
Fuck it I was being looked at by the cops for something I'd claim tribal blood too. if there's a group membership you can claim without evidence that will possibly save your bacon you'd be stupid not to.

People already do that for jobs and getting accepted into the school you want.
 
I am not surprised in the slightest.
I've been saying that they sound a lot like Muslim extremists. Even if they say they're Christian, they still act Muslim and India also has a growing Christian population that's probably larger than any European country's Christian population (since India in total has 1.4 billion people). On the Xitter location thread, there was literally a Bible quotes account from India.

I'm not sure that the religion people say they follow tends to affect their behavior so much. Obviously there are individuals who think deeply about spirituality and such, but most people in any religion or cultural movement don't take it particularly seriously and involve themselves for social reasons or habit. I'm not quite as gung-ho on genes completely explaining ethnic behavioral differences as a lot of posters on the Farms either, but I don't think the problem with India is "acting Muslim" (as opposed to acting Christian). Religion is only one part of culture, and I think India's problems go deeper than religion.

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Regarding Islam for instance, it's a religion that emerged from and is intended for tribes living in harsh environments. It was extremely effective at unifying them and enabling them to conquer less unified and militaristic societies, even ones with astonishing numerical superiority. The Arabs spread it first, then various African tribes, and when Islam began spreading to the civilized peoples in the Levant and Iran, the religion was "softened" in many ways, and a philosophical and mystical element entered. When the Turks, a people similar to the Mongols and used to committing the same kinds of atrocities as Mongols were famous for, converted and took over the caliphate, they suppressed the relatively humanistic form of Islam that had developed in the Middle East and a more head-choppy doctrine was enforced. A lot's happened since then, but Wahabi movement responsible for most head-choppy tendencies Islam is associated with atm comes from the KSA and its history beginning as a tribal warlord kicking out the Turks -- the dynasty funnels a great amount of money into radical movements to keep the religious establishment, which in turn supports the dynasty's fragile legitimacy, happy. So I don't think it's that "Islam" as a whole causes e.g. misogyny, so much as that Islam was developed by and spread to cultures that were particularly patriarchal and misogynistic, or were close enough to them to be conquered and ruled by these cultures. If 7th century Arab tribes had become Jewish or Christian instead, they may not have unified and expanded as they did, but I doubt those tribes themselves would have developed very different views about women's trustworthiness as witnesses or the ethics of keeping sex slaves.

If anything, I think you could argue that "Islam" was a good influence on India. The Mughals tried to curb sati and I can't imagine any invaders from outside the subcontinent encouraging poop-throwing festivals or drinking cow urine. The Mughals built actual civilization, their rule is usually seen as a golden age, and it had the most developed state in the subcontinent during their height, while their decline correlated with increasing tolerance of and ceding administrative control to native Hindus. I don't personally see Hinduism as the cause of India's problems like it would suddenly become civilized if Indians all became Christian, but if you did want to argue that then I think there's a case to be made that an Islamic-ruled India would have been preferable to a Hindu one. My own opinion is that the success of the Mughals had to do with them not being Indian rather than being Muslim.

Anyway, the past few days have been pretty eye-opening when it comes to the demographics promoting online misogyny. I've never had the pleasure of living around many Indians, but I do live with a certain other ethnicity that's pretty outspoken about hating women. I know people, especially in this thread, like to throw around "incel" as an insult/explanation, but a lot of vocal misogynists I knew tended to get women sometimes, and Indians aren't exactly facing extinction anytime soon. My suspicion is that cultures like this are just generally aggressive, hateful, and stupid, and their men target women because they're weak and available targets. If it were just jealousy then their patriarchs who actually do have wives and daughters and have positions of power in Indian society would be making more of an effort to stop this, and they don't.
 
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I think some right-wing men get mad at those sort of "my education and my career is my life" women because they automatically assume that they are anti motherhood or family, wether that's true for the individual woman in question or not.

I will admit it's hard to sympathize with the borderline antinatalist green line go up "babies are parasites" type of woman. However that type of woman is pretty rare and basically only lives in five metropolitan areas but they extrapolate her to any woman with a degree and a white collar job.
Sorry to derail, though I never understood their argument about hating educated women, I remember seeing on twitter how they were mocking women who were posting their achievements (and these were women in prestigious schools and high earning degrees, mind you), but I always thought that being educated would provide better children. (though I guess their idea of "intelligence" is extensive knowledge of WW3..)

I always assumed that in a "utopian" world that they like to hypothesize about would mean having educated youth, and if they truly care about the whole "raising children" part and fixate on mothers being the sole caretaker and passing down said values, wouldn't this mean it would be better for women to be educated/intelligent to raise intelligent children? Or is it just pure jealousy? I would like to be a mother, and I actually used to be against school until I realized I wanted to have some kind of security before having them.

I'm actually studying something STEM related (though I dont want to specify due to opsecs) solely because it's one of my passions, and I'd like to prove to my future children that I was able to do both despite my drawbacks in my life. The idea of children is what made me want to secure my life, especially with education, I always feared I wouldn't be adequate enough for it, which was why I avoided it until a while ago, so I never understood why they're so belligerent against women being educated/ambitious. I actually think people should be more educated to be better parents.
 
I think it has to do with badly concealed admiration of ghetto "culture" and entirely non-hidden "religious" anarcho-primitivism, see all the popularity of trad larpers, dolljaks and their homesteading. The current view is, that a shanty town shack is all that is needed for a healthy family life.
Question is, when a man should be a provider, what does he provide, because money doesn't seem to be it in that case.
 
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What the actual fuck.

Most women have done sexually what 80% of men will never experience in their entire lives

With who? Other women? Some morphed amalgamation of skin that has genitals? Dogs? The air?

Because if most men are not experiencing it, then either 80% of women are doing it with the same man (logic still doesn't make any fucking sense in this case either), or the other people they're doing it with are not men. And I don't see incels victimizing themselves over lesbians.
 
I never understood why they're so belligerent against women being educated/ambitious.
They know that an educated woman is less likely to settle for a shithead like them, and is more likely to put off having children until it's economically more viable (that is, she's harder to baby-trap).
The men who screech the loudest about this stuff hate themselves. I mean their view on life and human relationships is intensely miserable. At the same time, that view allows them to live in a kind of rut where they never have to change anything about themselves ever. A woman who's educated and confident in herself is a woman who makes them have to face up to their own feelings of inadequacy. (And, as we all know, having men take accountability for their own thoughts and actions is a literal hate crime 🥺✊)
 
Arabs spread it first, then various African tribes, and when Islam began spreading to the civilized peoples in the Levant and Iran, the religion was "softened" in many ways, and a philosophical and mystical element entered. When the Turks, a people similar to the Mongols and used to committing the same kinds of atrocities as Mongols were famous for, converted and took over the caliphate, they suppressed the relatively humanistic form of Islam that had developed in the Middle East
There's a book by the late Nabeel Qureshi, a Pakistani convert to Christianity, who wrote a book about women before Islam. Islam states it gave women rights; his book showed they enjoyed property rights independent of men and could divorce without the consent of a man. Islam appealed to clannish tribes who wanted power and women, so that explains why the Koran reads like a war orgy. The early conquest of Arabia was a bloody orgy of violence and the religion spread through the sword. Ironically, many of their pre-Islam pagan traditions remain, such as using crystals as charms or the evil 👁️ as Jews use the hamsa hand. One woman was even put to death for pointing this out, even though she was right and they were engaging in idolatry.

Turkey under the Sultans brought the end of the Byzantine Empire and it only had religious tolerance thanks to Suleiman the Magnificent, who prioritized secular law. Yes, he strangled his sons but his reforms gave him the name "law giver". The Ottomans' role in slavery is also overlooked and they are not forced to acknowledge it or pay reparations as whites are. Don't expect Hasan to grovel for the crimes of his ancestors.

But you are right: the religion didn't invent misogyny per se. It had to have already existed. Out of the religions of India, the Sikhs didn't think menstruation was a curse and that women on it weren't "unclean". In many households menstruating women aren't even allowed to touch food because they think they have rendered the food impure. A similar practice was done in Buddhist Tibet; it took a secular government to abolish it.

I've heard that Muslims like Dagestanis in Russia tend to be rather chill, because they allow their women to be educated and aren't stingy about head coverings. It's usually Afghans, Pakistanis and fresh converts who are the worst. Afghanistan was once a Buddhist country and is heavily inbred. Even if you eradicated Islam, those patriarchal norms would not disappear overnight. Men have to have the capacity to change. Jews, for example, will have a bunch of second wave feminists and will allow women to serve in the IDF, or keep them segregated from the wailing wall and on public transport. Ultra Orthodox Jews have a TFR of 6. Average ashkenazim? 1-2. They're the ones attacking Palestinians on settlements and will inherit the country . It ain't looking good.

India, though? It's the most overpopulated place on the planet. Their men have literal shrimp dicks, but that's never stopped them from breeding. I was just reading an article on historic marriage and menarche rates, and while it the average was 14 for first period and 18-20 for marriage, it was 12 in India. Even China forced girls to marry at 15. India also started chattel slavery via it's caste system but you don't see them groveling in apologies over it.
 
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