Canada is a failed state

[Campbell_Trio]

I don't mind having an aristocratic or bourgeoisie political elite as long as they're far-right nationalists (see Japan),

So instead of politicians who bring in immigrants to deal with a low birth rate you want politicians who implement systems where youth/middle aged are worked so hard they don't have kids due to lack of time?

Wow such an upgrade

That's a common misconception, Quebecistan are languistic nationalists, they'd be fine with sand niggers and shit skins moving into their province if they simply spoke French, which many former colonies in Africa and the Middle East do. This is also why jeets are learning French on mass right now.

Quebecers killed an mp to get equal language rights and never did anything assertive again.

I mean, if an election happened this early, there would definitely be Cucknadians who vote FOR the liberals "cuz those mean opposition parties forced an election."

Or because the conservatives are lead by a loser who had to win a easy riding to get back into parliament and every other party is a clown show equal to the liberals?

Cons need to dump PP if they actually wanna have a competitive future against the Liberals cause no one likes a loser.

 

[Brutality]

Cons need to dump PP if they actually wanna have a competitive future against the Liberals cause no one likes a loser.

They have literally nobody else that could feasibly win. Even if they won a minority, the liberals will just whip the NDP back into line

 

[Campbell_Trio]

They have literally nobody else that could feasibly win. Even if they won a minority, the liberals will just whip the NDP back into line

So what is their plan to just hope everyone finally wakes up to their side of politics and ride it to an election win?
Cause they already tried it and it failed horribly when their years of blaming Trudeau for everything backfired by the libs replacing him with Carney.

PP isn't winning so why not roll those dice and get literally anyone else besides the guy who cries about government aid while living off tax dollars his whole adult life.

 

[Epic Fail Man]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=y0c9qsg6D9c
This video actually does bring up a interesting point. Change in Canada will be impossible unless the elites approve of it, and due to Canadians tendency towards blind subservience order, they are unlikely to fully support anti establishment/anti elitist movements. So I guess if we to bring nationalism to the canadian people, it will probably have to reject the people/working class and embrace the cause of the masters/bourgeoisie, or at least give them the illusion of said allegiance.

The short answer to whatever bogus he's talking about in this video I didn't watch is that multiculturalism is in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

If you want to bring cohesive patriotic nationalism to your country you would probably need to amend the multiculturalism act which was introduced in 1982. Which can be done, but who has the balls to do that? Pierre "say no to deportations" Poilievre?

 

[harbringer883]

This is literally what is happening. So called "Quebec nationalists" will take a Haitian or Maghrebian sandnigger over a fellow Canadian because the former speak French. They are so obsessed with language that they'll gladly smile as their grandkids turn some disgusting shade of brown as long as their kitchen faucets say "Chaud" and "Froid". The entire separatist movement is a bunch of braindead boomers (stupider than your standard boomer) who got bamboozled into accepting multiculturalism painted like nationalism.

You also forget that the Quebec Separatist movement is predominantly left wing, so really they only want to have Quebec leave so they can have their hekkin eco friendly, multicultural, antifascist commune.

 

[Brutality]

So what is their plan to just hope everyone finally wakes up to their side of politics and ride it to an election win?
Cause they already tried it and it failed horribly when their years of blaming Trudeau for everything backfired by the libs replacing him with Carney.

PP isn't winning so why not roll those dice and get literally anyone else besides the guy who cries about government aid while living off tax dollars his whole adult life.

Poilevre is the best that they have at this point. Replacing him with Liberal Premier Doug Ford or some other Neocon would backfire horribly.

If pierre ever gets in, he could feasibly be internally pressured to change on these issues, And if he doesn't? Don't vote for him again, let's make another Reform Party

Rolling him out and replacing him with another Erin o Toole type wouldnt solve anything. We saw this with Andrew Scheer

 

[Campbell_Trio]

If pierre ever gets in, he could feasibly be internally pressured to change on these issues, And if he doesn't? Don't vote for him again, let's make another Reform Party

I doubt he would do anything to the foreign worker stuff as he oversaw it under Harper and its his only political legacy.

Poilevre is the best that they have at this point. Replacing him with Liberal Premier Doug Ford or some other Neocon would backfire horribly.

Whats with thise cope claiming dougie is a liberal now?
Both Ford brothers were always arch conservatives that doesn't mean you get to act like dougie isnt representing conservatives just because he likes liberal ideas.

 

[Epic Fail Man]

Poilevre is the best that they have at this point. Replacing him with Liberal Premier Doug Ford or some other Neocon would backfire horribly.

If pierre ever gets in, he could feasibly be internally pressured to change on these issues, And if he doesn't? Don't vote for him again, let's make another Reform Party

Rolling him out and replacing him with another Erin o Toole type wouldnt solve anything. We saw this with Andrew Scheer

I think Pierre had his chance. He lost his own seat he shouldn't be the leader. Only after the election he started criticizing immigration.

The Tories shouldn't go back to milquetoast O'toole. But I don't think this sort of populism is well, popular anymore after Trump. Ideal candidate would be someone who's more stern and strict on immigration like how Asian and some European politicians are.

I think people now want someone who has consistent ideals and beliefs and pushes them rather than someone who says what he thinks is popular among the masses and flip flops.

 

[Brutality]

Whats with thise cope claiming dougie is a liberal now?
Both Ford brothers were always arch conservatives that doesn't mean you get to act like dougie isnt representing conservatives just because he likes liberal ideas.

And he undermined the federal campaign at every turn he could. Who needs enemies with friends like that right?

I think Pierre had his chance. He lost his own seat he shouldn't be the leader. Only after the election he started criticizing immigration.

The Tories shouldn't go back to milquetoast O'toole. But I don't think this sort of populism is well, popular anymore after Trump. Ideal candidate would be someone who's more stern and strict on immigration like how Asian and some European politicians are.

I think people now want someone who has consistent ideals and beliefs and pushes them rather than someone who says what he thinks is popular among the masses and flip flops.

Pierre also gained 25 seats and held the liberals to a Minority when the state run media was pushing hard for a liberal majority.

Trump is a temporary figure, and the longer things go on Trump becomes less and less of an issue and the focus goes back to being on cost of living and immigration. Yes Trump could say "lol 51st state" again and all the cattle could fall in line once more, but if Poilievre goes nobody will give a shit about whoever the new con leader will be and a liberal minority turns into a majority.

My bets are on another election either in 2026 or 2027. The NDP is getting another leader who will probably be more hesitant to be openly co operative with the liberals, Carney seems intent on getting his own way, Pierre has his leadership review in January, and the BQ will likely be signal boosting the PQ come Quebec's election cycle next fall.

 

[Epic Fail Man]

Pierre also gained 25 seats and held the liberals to a Minority when the state run media was pushing hard for a liberal majority.

The Conservatives gained 25 seats, not Pierre. Pierre lost his seat.

 

[Brutality]

The Conservatives gained 25 seats, not Pierre. Pierre lost his seat.

You know what i'm saying though

 

[Epic Fail Man]

You know what i'm saying though

You're saying thanks to Pierre's leadership the conservatives gained seats. But that's not the case. You don't vote for the leader in the federal election, you vote for your local MP.

It is despite Pierre that they gained 25 seats. Trudeau was such a disaster that liberals were so repulsive to people that this should have been an easy win. And that's what Pierre thought which is why he put no effort into his campaign, and had one the biggest epic fails in Canadian politics.

 

[Brutality]

You're saying thanks to Pierre's leadership the conservatives gained seats. But that's not the case. You don't vote for the leader in the federal election, you vote for your local MP.

The cattle do not vote this way, they either vote for the leader or the party. If you were to ask 100 people to name their MP I suspect maybe 10 at max would be able to. The only exception is if your MP has been in office for a long time

It is despite Pierre that they gained 25 seats. Trudeau was such a disaster that liberals were so repulsive to people that this should have been an easy win. And that's what Pierre thought which is why he put no effort into his campaign, and had one the biggest epic fails in Canadian politics.

Justin was extremely radioactive, and that's the only reason why CBC et al stopped sweeping up for him. They couldn't cook up any scenario where he was popular in any context anymore and that is ultimately why he resigned. Once carney came in and trump gave the media an easy talking point their job got much easier.

I'm not saying that Poilievre is going to be the savior of the white race in canada or anything like that, because it's obvious that he isn't. But in a parliament with a potentially short shelf life there is no need to reroll and risk giving the liberals any more power than they already have

 

[YautjaWeeb]

Poilevre is the best that they have at this point. Replacing him with Liberal Premier Doug Ford or some other Neocon would backfire horribly.

Ford is in bed with the federal liberals and literally sucking on Carney's dick like a hungry hungry hippo. He's not leaving his little sticker printing fiefdom or getting in anyone's way.

Poilevre is the best that they have at this point. Replacing him with Liberal Premier Doug Ford or some other Neocon would backfire horribly.

If pierre ever gets in, he could feasibly be internally pressured to change on these issues, And if he doesn't? Don't vote for him again, let's make another Reform Party

Rolling him out and replacing him with another Erin o Toole type wouldnt solve anything. We saw this with Andrew Scheer

PP is a very good critic and foil to Trudeau, but LobsterCult man called it. He is CuckPierre. He's a white man who never had a white tit in his mouth just 2 gay dads and a spicy brown wife. I didn't really see it until the post election.

I don't think even a Harper character would even succeed anymore the political window has shifted right to the WEF and gigaGlobohomoisms. Doesn't get more elite then that. The bench is empty on the conservative side because if you want to succeed in public life you need to get elected consistently and to do that you need to be a liberal.

Also there is no reason to accept the results of this past election as legitimate. Are Canadians this stupid yes, but it chinky-stinks to the high heavens of the CCP who love Carney like a first-born son.

 

[The Cum Beast]

Rolling him out and replacing him with another Erin o Toole type wouldnt solve anything. We saw this with Andrew Scheer

People need to understand that leftists in Canada would always blindly hate a conservative leader no matter what, even if the LPC somehow becomes more right wing than the cons.

PP isn't winning so why not roll those dice and get literally anyone else besides the guy who cries about government aid while living off tax dollars his whole adult life.

It is despite Pierre that they gained 25 seats. Trudeau was such a disaster that liberals were so repulsive to people that this should have been an easy win. And that's what Pierre thought which is why he put no effort into his campaign, and had one the biggest epic fails in Canadian politics.

My biggest problem with this opinion is: why are the liberals so desperate to replace him then? The vast majority of people I've seen who wants PP to be replaced are liberals, who claims they want a PC like O'Toole (they still called fucking O"TOOLE MAGA back in 2021). Keep in mind, liberals DO NOT care about democracy, and I'd argue they flat out hate it because it "makes the government run slower" (despite the fact Canada would run just as poorly as it does now as a dictatorship). Like I'd assume the liberals want to keep him if he's so bad, controlled opposition and all that, but they're trying REALLY hard to replace him.

Are Canadians this stupid yes, but it chinky-stinks to the high heavens of the CCP who love Carney like a first-born son.

I agree that the CCP did influence the election just like in 2019 and 2021. even indirectly, as there were Chinese-Canadians who were scared to vote for the cons, especially in B.C where there's a heavy presence of Chinese police stations. However, Canadians really are that stupid, and I'd actually argue that if PP went full on anti-immigration in April it would've backfired, cuz Cucknadians would be like "see he wants to deport people like the orange man." I cannot emphasize this enough, the average Canadian bases their entire thought process on emotions, not logic.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Not only that, but moving all future budgets to November rather than April means that if a budget is ever voted down, they can always frame the issue as "The opposition made you vote instead of celebrating christmas"

The budget literally doesn't matter especially considering we went a year and half without one and nothing collapsed (besides things getting really shitty).

We are literally in a Weimar tier system where nothing can get done.

 

[Campbell_Trio]

My biggest problem with this opinion is: why are the liberals so desperate to replace him then? The vast majority of people I've seen who wants PP to be replaced are liberals, who claims they want a PC like O'Toole (they still called fucking O"TOOLE MAGA back in 2021). Keep in mind, liberals DO NOT care about democracy, and I'd argue they flat out hate it because it "makes the government run slower"

I want him replaced because he's the only thing at the federal level keeping me from voting conservative, cant speak for actual hardcore liberals but my theory is that they want someone who would be more willing to bend the knee for liberal ideas and projects.

I would rather conservatives be led by someone who stands for his parties values but also know when and where to support his opposition and put the country over political grievances.

(despite the fact Canada would run just as poorly as it does now as a dictatorship).

"Every government i don't like is a dictatorship"

 

[EscapeVorkuta]

Pierre lost his riding yes, but only after the faggots in Ottawa added another traditionally Libtard distract to it filled with government workers. Here is the ultimate irony, those government workers were promised job security by Pierre's replacement in Carleton - Bruce Fagjoy. Now those government workers are being targeted for layoffs by Chicken Con Carney. Elbows up faggots.

 

[Brutality]

cant speak for actual hardcore liberals but my theory is that they want someone who would be more willing to bend the knee for liberal ideas and projects.

>Can't speak for hardcore liberals
>repeats verbatim what liberals unironically say they want from a conservative
lmao

 

[EscapeVorkuta]

>Can't speak for hardcore liberals
>repeats verbatim what liberals unironically say they want from a conservative
lmao

That is why they 'somewhat liked O'Toole' and 'almost considered voting for him'. I knew O'Toole was dead in the water when he was seen marching in ladies high heels. What an absolute faggot. I voted PPC in that election because that guy's agenda was no different than Trudeau's. When all four major party leaders are giving you a speech trying to compel you to get vaccinated you realize you never had any real choices to begin with. At least Pierre is a decent attack dog. Avoiding an election now is good strategy for the cons. Let the Liberals implode the country further and create even more divide. Let the chugs try to take more land, preferably land with boomer homes situated on it. The tide will turn.