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Should be a wild four years.

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jje100010001 said:
And a hundred years after that point, Romanized Germans increasingly thought they could run the Roman Empire better than the Romans, i.e. Theodoric the Great and the Ostrogoths, and Odoacer (who deposed the last emperor).

Ultimately at that point both the Ostrogoths and even the Byzantines that sought to restore the lands were far removed from the Rome of Augustus, and it wasn't so much barbarians overrunning the empire, but a blurry change of leadership from both a lack of leadership from the Romans, and aspiring legal immigrants.
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Odoacer, out of all of the grand "barbarian" leaders, was the one who acknowledged the writing on the wall. In its final days the Western part of the Roman Empire was basically a political dumpster fire.

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I'm not the biggest fan of Roman-American history analogues since they're always accurate but let's just say that taking in a large amount of foreigners with alien cultures as well beliefs with no ties to the land may have consequences. Also we should always remember that scavengers are not afraid to attack dying, defenseless creatures if it benefits themselves to do so.
 
Breadbassket said:
let's just say that taking in a large amount of foreigners with alien cultures as well beliefs with no ties to the land may have consequences
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What's interesting is that nobody ever brings up examples where this supposedly worked out well for everyone. I wonder why?

Plus I don't think you need to be an expert in history to know that. You could just take a bunch of fire ants and dump them in a nest of black ants and see the "integration" yourself.
 
Delany's Donkey said:
Unironically no. I want a cool and based europe again and that doesn't happen if we take in all their best people and leave the cucks and shitskins as the only people over there.

We all need to fix our own shit, not run away from the problems.
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I'd agree if this was maybe 15 years ago but they are so cucked and fucked now that I really don't see any hope for them. These niggas can get raped and replaced daily, struggling to find a job while their imported hordes have everything subsidized to them on the the taxpayer dollar and the best they can do is wave around some flags and have a big rally in London where nothing gets accomplished. I say save the best of them and have them contribute here and let the UK become an example for the world as to what happens when you let leftists fully subvert a nation.
 
Roy Jay said:
I'd agree if this was maybe 15 years ago but they are so cucked and fucked now that I really don't see any hope for them. These niggas can get raped and replaced daily, struggling to find a job while their imported hordes have everything subsidized to them on the the taxpayer dollar and the best they can do is wave around some flags and have a big rally in London where nothing gets accomplished. I say save the best of them and have them contribute here and let the UK become an example for the world as to what happens when you let leftists fully subvert a nation.
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Something about that doesn't sit well with me. You'd think the people who have experienced that decline would be the most ardent opposers if it looms again in the horizon.

There is also the "white people aren't having enough kids" problem. I'm not saying it would be a solution but it's not an unviable alternative either.

I still doubt it might get done and if people are even going to use it but if we need to import anyone ever, I rather have it be them.

One reason why people never integrate in the first place is because they don't experience the loss or the hardship of your homeland going haywire. Indians and other shitty migrants just come to the US with the mentality of a vulture.
 
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Reading up on the latest ICE protest in Charlotte, I'm a bit surprised the libs haven't gotten more hostile to where ICE agents aren't seriously injured or killed. You would think they would be emboldened after convincing normies Charlie Kirk's assassination was because of his rhetoric (along with Trump entering the political zeitgeist), city and county law enforcement in Dem areas not working with the feds, Dem politicians egging on their supporters, and the DOJ seemingly being all bark and no bite.
 
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Necrosan said:
Something about that doesn't sit well with me. You'd think the people who have experienced that decline would be the most ardent opposers if it looms again in the horizon.

There is also the "white people aren't having enough kids" problem. I'm not saying it would be a solution but it's not an unviable alternative either.

I still doubt it might get done and if people are even going to use it but if we need to import anyone ever, I rather have it be them.

One reason why people never integrate in the first place is because they don't experience the loss or the hardship of your homeland going haywire. Indians and other shitty migrants just come to the US with the mentality of a vulture.
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It's due to Common Purpose type mental re-shaping i.e. 'you aren't the victim, you are the oppressor and this is needed to make things fair.'

The interesting thing is that, post Covid, it's now harder to get the sheep to obey - belittling, bullying and press-ganging no longer works therefore what does/will?

Forced conformity or execution for wrong-think?

Yeah, that didn't work with Charlie Kirk, moreover that event did more to solidify opposition of political violence among most decent people. Antifa are now opposed by the majority rather than the minority and along with Palestine Action have rightly been banned as a terrorist organisation.

The one good thing from this in the UK, from my point of view as a Reform UK member and voter, is that Nigel Farage is odds on to be the next PM and at a time when the current Government looks like falling apart very soon the end of the nightmare could soon arrive.
 
The Nothingness said:
Reading up on the latest ICE protest in Charlotte, I'm a bit surprised the libs haven't gotten more hostile to where ICE agents aren't seriously injured or killed. You would think they would be emboldened after convincing normies Charlie Kirk's assassination was because of Trump's rhetoric, city and county law enforcement in Dem areas not working with the feds, and the DOJ seemingly being all bark and no bite.
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They tried for like a week and failed so miserably that they just went back to their gay lame protesting of blowing their rape whistles and dancing in frog costumes or whatever.

Remember that one guy who tried sniping ICE agents but instead killed two illegals and then himself without even putting up a fight? That's what their best looks like.

The rest of them know they aren't in any danger if they just sit on the sidelines or outside an ICE facility and chant about how mean they are. It's just a glorified moral circlejerk for unemployed/retired shitlibs.
 
ThisIsGonnaBeGood said:
Well, that's ironic
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Everything that has to do with China is going to involve trump making public statements praising them while twisting the knife. I think it’s tit for tat, cause China always goes for headlines about accepting deals and never follows through

The whole “muh China economy so stonk” shit is collapsing. As a hilarious side note, Hasan is in China doing the tourism bro thing and praising the shit out of them, and he tried to interview some random Chinese dude who never heard of hasan and said he’s a fan of asmongold
 
SpergioLeonne said:
The whole “muh China economy so stonk” shit is collapsing. As a hilarious side note, Hasan is in China doing the tourism bro thing and praising the shit out of them, and he tried to interview some random Chinese dude who never heard of hasan and said he’s a fan of asmongold
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Kinda strange he’s unblocked there. I guess the CCP supports the views of the median American Zoomer? They are a national socialist state after all.
 
Null said:
I like how I asked people to do something yesterday so I could play with the reaction and I have gotten literally 200+ notifications of people replying it over a full day. like I guess I completely ruined the entire fucking thread.
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I’ll take it over Power Rangers sperging or whatever it is this week.
 
Sensitive Young Man said:
Kinda strange he’s unblocked there. I guess the CCP supports the views of the median American Zoomer? They are a national socialist state after all.
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Asmon was the most popular World of Warcraft streamer for years before he started talking politics and WoW is extremely popular in China. It's not surprising that a random Chinese zoomer male has heard of his favorite game's biggest streamer but not some literally who guy who streams his chair while playing clips of American news in the background.
 
The fact that the Democrats are trying to play up MTG, after years of calling her Female Orange Hitler, and she is responding to it, should tell you everything you need to know about that silly bitch.

Also, the news is really running with the Epstein shit. I was watching The Hill last night (they have a TV channel) and they were talking around the e-mails. People in this thread are more informed about the e-mails that the average person, who doesn't even know that the "anonymous victim" was Virginia Giuffre - who already claimed multiple times that she never heard of Trump being involved with Epstein.
 
>Be in New York
>Get shot
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46987791/jets-kris-boyd-critical-condition-being-shot-nyc (Archive)
New York Jets special teams player Kris Boyd is in critical but stable condition at Manhattan's Bellevue Hospital after sustaining a gunshot wound to the abdomen at a Midtown restaurant early Sunday morning, the New York Police Department told ESPN.

A Jets spokesman said the team is aware of the situation and will have no further comment at this time.

The incident occurred shortly after 2 a.m. ET at the Sei Less restaurant on West 38th Street. No arrests have been made, according to the NYPD spokesman, who said an investigation is ongoing. The NYPD provided no additional details.

Boyd, 29, was shot outside the restaurant after a dispute turned violent, with the gunmen firing two shots, the New York Post reported, citing law enforcement sources. The shooter fled the scene in a BMW X8 SUV, according to the newspaper. A Mercedes-Benz Maybach also fled the scene, the newspaper reported.
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