US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Nearly all of the people talking about EBT are like “Yeah we may have to dig into our savings but it’s nothing we can’t endure”

And like 🙏🏿 God bless you for acting so mature when so many others treat it like it’s a CAT 3 disaster.

Cutting snap/ebt/food stamps /‘gibs muh dat progrum’ #573 has been so easy, relatively speaking. And it really gives hope to my heart that we can keep cutting welfare further without major, major chimp outs
 
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Nearly all of the people talking about EBT are like “Yeah we may have to dig into our savings but it’s nothing we can’t endure”
It really is that. I'm not seeing anyone talking about really 'starving'. It's mostly I might have less to spend on GTA6 down the line. It's nasty. Maybe the truly poors are so poor they can't get online? LOL at that idea.

It's weird how it's the fairly well off earners of 50-80k always seem to be the most bitchy about losing handouts.
 
As funny as the Reddit chimpouts are over the Democrats caving (and their petulant threats of leaving the party), none of them are going to remember this in a week, and will be right back to "vote blue no matter who." It's also why the doomposters here waste their time; most of political goings-on week to week are just fluff and change nothing, for either side. Trump could eat his own feces live on television and it wouldn't even be a story for a week before Chuck Schumer killed a baby or something. It's a never ending cycle, and you're in it. Enjoy!
 
As funny as the Reddit chimpouts are over the Democrats caving (and their petulant threats of leaving the party), none of them are going to remember this in a week, and will be right back to "vote blue no matter who."
It's always been like that for both "sides". American politics have always operated on a very short attention span and memory, and a lot of outrage. As-was and is, it's more performance for consumption than anything.
 
To those looking at the GOP not bending themselves over a barrel for the Democrats for first time in decades, let me assure you: they will absolutely fumble this.
 
Pardon my niggas Alex Jones and Mike Lindell

By the way it should be noted after some research that the Democrats actually did get a concession from the Republicans, a pretty big one in my opinion, to open the government. The Federal Employees and Democrat programs Trump cut during the government shut down are being re-hired and re-instated. The shutdown was literally a waste of time for both sides lol.
The compromise proposal includes language to retain more than 4,000 federal workers targeted for layoffs during the shutdown as well as language to prevent the Trump administration from firing additional federal workers through reductions in force (RIFs) for the length of the newly drafted continuing resolution
 
The shutdown was literally a waste of time for both sides lol.
Not entirely. The Senate Republicans got mostly what they they wanted even if their antics may of motivated the Democrat base in a few elections.

Remember why the shutdown happened in the first place:
The Republicans currently control both chambers of Congress. But in the Senate - or upper chamber - they are short of the 60 votes needed to pass the spending bill, which gives opposition Democrats some negotiating power.

They want to see an extension of expiring tax credits which make health insurance cheaper for millions of Americans, and for a reversal of Trump's cuts to Medicaid, a government healthcare programme used by millions of elderly, disabled and low-income people.

Democrats also oppose spending cuts to government health agencies.

A stopgap bill designed to avoid the shutdown was passed in the House, or lower chamber, but did not clear the Senate.

Here are details on the deal that was made to end it:
The Democratic retreat reopened the deep fissures within the party that emerged in March, when a bloc of Democratic senators, led by Mr. Schumer, voted with Republicans to keep the government open, prompting a progressive backlash.

The shift this time was particularly remarkable given that the legislation Republicans have offered does not address Democrats’ main demand in the shutdown fight: the extension of health insurance tax credits that are slated to expire at the end of the year.

Instead, the Democratic splinter group appeared to have received a commitment from Senator John Thune, Republican of South Dakota and the majority leader, to allow a vote in December on extending the tax credits for a year. Many Democrats have said for weeks that such a pledge would be insufficient to win them over, since such a bill has appeared all but certain to die in the Republican-led Congress.

The core of the compromise that now appears to be on the brink of moving ahead is a spending package that is the product of negotiations among a group of moderate senators in both parties. It includes a new stopgap measure that would fund the government through January, plus three separate spending bills to cover programs related to agriculture, military construction and legislative agencies for most of 2026.

Those three bills, released on Sunday by the Senate Appropriations Committee, omit most of the deep spending cuts that Mr. Trump had proposed in his budget this year.

Still, the deal was causing intense consternation across wide swaths of Democrats, from progressives to moderates.

Senator Bernie Sanders, the Vermont independent who caucuses with Democrats, said any retreat from the party’s demands on health care would be “a policy and political disaster.”

The next big thing coming down to pipe is the fate of the health insurance tax credits.
 
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Say nothing and move on, they got all those votes in the election, saved the fired federal workers and hopefully have finally realized that they can't just yell "healthcare, healthcare, healthcare" on repeat like this is the U-fucking-K. They were on offense this time and failed but that doesn't mean they lost, it just means that things are no better off then they were before this started.
I think this is a major victory, since if the gov shut downs again, and they ask for ACA extension or illegal healthcare again they will get laughed out. By cucking out they prove they were weak and that their demands were not serious

Edit:gonna go back and read the chimpouts. Kinda sad that i missed the announcement but i was watching the greatest oeuvre of schizoid kino since Terry A Davis
 
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(I also keep thinking my math is wrong, bit I think it's more that all the money printing that went on in 2020 went mostly to corporations and the Stimmies weren't nearly as damaging as PPP)
The true crime of the stimulus checks in DC's eyes is that it went to the American public directly. It was only supposed to go to corporations that give Congress kickbacks
 
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