💬 Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

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We know about the effects of sex hormones on pregnant women, on women and teenage girls who go through menstruation every month, on women who goes through menopause and men who goes through andropause, we know the effects of testosterone and steroids on the human body, we know about at least some of the effects of having our bodies in state of hormonal imbalance, yet it is all ignored when it comes to "gender affirming care". Blows my mind every time.

Hormones are given like candies without taking into account the effects of the hormones. What they call "possible side effects" are not "side effects", it's just the effects of the hormones. They give it to people with normal hormone levels, this isn't going to fix anything, it's just going to ruin their bodies. Studies are made about whether "gender affirming care" improves mental health or not, ignoring the effects of the hormones themselves completely. Maybe this young woman is happier now not because her body is more "aligned with her gender identity", but because the testosterone is a known mood enhancer, ever thought about that? But no, they just ignore it completely. Young people are taking sex hormones and feel happier and think this means they were right about their gender identify and they are on the right path, they are going to live their best authentic life; meanwhile this is just the direct effects of the hormones, their body is falling apart and they are often unstable emotionally, which are also direct effects of the hormones, but all of this is just ignored.

I know I'm not saying anything new here, but from to time, when my mood and body are effected by the fluctuation in my hormones again due to my menstruation cycle, it just hits me. I can't get over how these known facts, backed by years of actual science, are simply ignored in favor of some magical belief in some gender-soul. Simply unbelievable.
 
"Real" trans people potentially cause more harm than the "fake" ones.

We compare trans to a religion and a cult a lot; many religions will have underlying beliefs that are a linchpin of their ideas but are completely unprovable. For trans, this is the mythical "real" trans person.

You have to treat all people who say they're trans well, use their pronouns and everything, because not doing so shows disrespect and hurts the real ones. It doesn't matter how many fake ones you have to deal with ruining things for people, it's supposed to be worth it for the sake of the few real ones.

You have to call that child rapist a she if that's what they want to be called, because what happens if a real trans person sees you call them accurate pronouns? The real trans person will know you're just humoring them to be nice when you use their preferred ones and don't really think they're women/men! You have to use the wrong pronouns anytime it's demanded or you're killing real trans people!

Maybe that guy in the wig beating a bunch of teenagers at swimming doesn't look sincere to you, but what about all the real trans people? You wouldn't want to stop them from pursuing their dreams at the cost of everyone around them, would you?

Laws for the bathroom won't work because of the real trans people! You can't tell they're not actually women/men!

The common saying of "no trans people pass" is met with "well you wouldn't be able to tell", placing them nicely in mythical Bigfoot status. You can't be sure he's not out there somewhere in the hundreds of miles of wilderness.



Them having visibility days is supposedly for awareness but I think the real goal was to find some "real" trans people. Everyone was waiting for the moment where a beautiful woman with a handsome husband, a couple of kids, and a good career posted a happy picture with a genuine smile and said "only my parents and husband knew for years... I'm actually trans! My kids are adopted! I had to stand up and say we're here even if you can't tell!".

That never happened. Instead all they got were ridiculous pictures in filthy rooms.
 
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when my mood and body are effected by the fluctuation in my hormones again due to my menstruation cycle, it just hits me.
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I will never understand why troons want to experience that.

Scientifically Inaccurate said:
That never happened. Instead all they got were ridiculous pictures in filthy rooms.
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I hate to admit it, but I think Dylan was possibly as close as they every got, and he was faking the whole thing for clout. Which is why his "career" is now completely in the ground.
 
90% sure this is a dude

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General Zoider said:
I will never understand why troons want to experience that.
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because they pathologically mythologize and idealize womanhood.

They don't *actually* want or need to experience the female period, they just think they do because they romanticize it. It's all part of their latent misogyny, they only think they want what they can never have.

If they *really* wanted to experience a period they would just drink a half-pint of bourbon and eat a can of Hormel chili once a month so they can experience the male-bowel version of menstrual cramping (or so I've been told)

anyone who wants to be the opposite sex is brainfucked
 
I think I'm not the first person to express this in this thread, but I think I'm experiencing some kind of troon fatigue.
Rate me mad at the internet, or mad at life even. But I get tired of being reminded that my views on the trans subject are unacceptable to people around me, and yet no matter how open minded I try to be, I get also reminded as to why I think this way.
I feel I became too aware of the patterns, that I am noticing things I was not supposed to notice.

Troons are not in my mind, they dont live "rent free" in my brain as some smug redditors would like to repeat over and over again. I live my life normally and then I encounter them in the wild, both online, but most unfortunately, in person as well. They're just everywhere, and more than making me angry I get this feeling of dread when I have to interact with them.

I used to be totally fine with people being gender non conforming, as I am considered one of these kinds of people. But now I see guys having long hair and wearing nail polish and girls having somewhat short hair and dressing just very slightly less feminine than average as a red flag. I just can't be sure anymore. I can't tell if these people are safe to be around.

And every time I try to be open-minded, telling myself that maybe my views are a bit too blind, maybe I am just exaggerating, maybe I have been radicalized by those evil conservatives, every time I get reminded why I have these beliefs, I get reminded why I just can't be unbothered by these people. They always do the same shit as if they were programmed to do so.

Sometimes I wish I could just be blissfully ignorant, just go along with the narrative of these people, just to not feel this bad, is hard because I'm not a super alt right conservative person, I just dont think men can become women, but they can wear dresses and have long hair if they want, I dont give a fuck. Literally 99% of my negative thoughts about troons would go away if they just accepted they're not women.

I'm sorry for the sperg, I am just really tired.
 
Idiot Sandwich the 3rd said:
I'm sorry for the sperg, I am just really tired.
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I get you im in the same boat you are just "burned out" on top of knowing facts. When trans people used to be well a minority, it was all well and good. But in the current year, there are so many It's overwhelming, and so many just function like some kind of cult or grift.

I am going to break character and admit there are actually some "good" ones, but I can only say I've met maybe 3 and all were of the HSTS variety and just wanted to be left alone. Basically imagine people who just "See" themselves as women and not as some kind of fetish thing it's more "they just always have been women" and don't care about most of the actual trans stuff and have actually completely distanced themselves from the trans community as a whole.
 
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Idiot Sandwich the 3rd said:
Rate me mad at the internet, or mad at life even. But I get tired of being reminded that my views on the trans subject are unacceptable to people around me, and yet no matter how open minded I try to be, I get also reminded as to why I think this way.
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You are not alone. This irritation with them is in the back of everyone's head, and they somehow buckbroke an overwhelming majority of people to ignore it (or at the very least, be afraid of discussing it) for the past decade and a half.

You seem to have concerns about becoming a bigot. In my view, bigotry is only a problem if people are not making a decision to be how they are; black people don't choose to be black, gays don't choose to be same-sex attracted, but it is absolutely a choice for trannies to do what they do. They may not choose to be AGP or to have bodily dysphoria, but they did choose to not accept their biological reality and they constantly choose to make it everyone else's problem. They also choose to try to break ground in places they do not belong like they're Jesse fucking Owens at the 1936 Berlin Summer Olympics, or Rosa Parks refusing to give her stall to an actual woman. They think these strong acts of defiance will inspire more people to appreciate them, but we see them for the empty performance that it is.

I don't hate men for wearing long hair or putting on makeup. I hate men that try to tear down every sex-based safeguard protecting women, and I hate people that try to empower children to make permanent decisions about their bodies by teaching those children that they can bait the world with their threatened suicide.

Kiwifarmsname said:
Why do trannies love communism?
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Weak people that can't provide for themselves love Communism. Many trans are weak and cannot provide for themselves.
 
The Morning Visitor said:
You seem to have concerns about becoming a bigot. In my view, bigotry is only a problem if people are not making a decision to be how they are; black people don't choose to be black, gays don't choose to be same-sex attracted, but it is absolutely a choice for trannies to do what they do. They may not choose to be AGP or to have bodily dysphoria, but they did choose to not accept their biological reality and they constantly choose to make it everyone else's problem. They also choose to try to break ground in places they do not belong like they're Jesse fucking Owens at the 1936 Berlin Summer Olympics, or Rosa Parks refusing to give her stall to an actual woman. They think these strong acts of defiance will inspire more people to appreciate them, but we see them for the empty performance that it is.
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In a way, yes, but not really because I fear on being "mean", but because in my environment that is fairly progressive it also means loosing connections, friendships, hell, even family. I could burn many bridges just because of this.

I don't feel bad for thinking this way, but I feel bad because I have to silence myself. Would be great to be brave and just voice my opinion on this topic but I dont see it worth it to loose a lot just for one opinion I have.
Yes, I am a coward, but when you were most of your life supporting and building connections to these people, just to then peak and realize you were wrong it really is hard to ruin all that.
 
Kiwifarmsname said:
Why do trannies love communism?
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1. As others have said, they want a nanny state and free shit, and don’t realize you had to actually work in historical commie societies.

2. It’s a normie-shocking, “fuck you mom and dad” ideology that attracts people who are trying to craft edgy identities for themselves, which includes many genderspecials.

3. Many of them are mentally simple and see all of politics as a left-right binary where left is unambiguously good and right is pure evil, if they are the most left possible they are the most good and virtuous person to ever exist.
 
Idiot Sandwich the 3rd said:
In a way, yes, but not really because I fear on being "mean", but because in my environment that is fairly progressive it also means loosing connections, friendships, hell, even family. I could burn many bridges just because of this.

I don't feel bad for thinking this way, but I feel bad because I have to silence myself. Would be great to be brave and just voice my opinion on this topic but I dont see it worth it to loose a lot just for one opinion I have.
Yes, I am a coward, but when you were most of your life supporting and building connections to these people, just to then peak and realize you were wrong it really is hard to ruin all that.
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You are part of what is called "the silent majority". It's a term that gained usage during Nixon's years to describe people that didn't protest the Vietnam War and stayed quiet about politics, today often employed in bias by MAGA supporters to pretend that supporting DJT is the default state of being American. I would say that the term is often misused today by the right to manufacture political solidarity with the center, but that doesn't change that most Americans are "silently" enjoying the reckoning from the culture war.

We're tired of grocery shopping during the first week of the month and seeing the front of the line held up by an obese black woman with 5 children, pushing 3 carts, obviously on government assistance for children she could not afford, arguing with the store clerk over sales prices. We're tired of every single communication from either government or corporation being offered in Spanish because it's a reminder that they're catering to people that shouldn't even be here, people that increase the demand for housing and decrease the demand for labor. And we are most certainly tired of trannies, for obvious reasons.

Most people feel this way. Many have been shamed out of expressing it. Some have been conditioned to actively fight it when they hear any talking point approach these grievances. But most people feel this.
 
The fuck is gender dysphoria? A mental illness? A genuine mismatch? What even is it?

because I have shown genuine distress over the gender I was raised at first. Never saw myself as a woman. Had an obviously male brain, physique, libido, testes, etc while also under the effects of having natural estrogen. Was called "tranny" by my peers at school. I felt like a freak. Still in the process of getting my condition diagnosed, have told a doctor and everything.

Used to be friends with troons, poons, and sometimes gender non-conforming people. Some of them are chill, but alot of them are very weird when it comes with sex and gender. Some of them say they don't really care what they are percieved as while also unbothered by the fact that they're treated by their assigned gender at birth. I think every side of the whole trans debate are really weird about what gender dysphoria is along with other topics of interest. So what is it?
 
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The Morning Visitor said:
Most people feel this way. Many have been shamed out of expressing it. Some have been conditioned to actively fight it when they hear any talking point approach these grievances. But most people feel this.
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What I find fascinating is how rare libshits are on any platform where people are really allowed to speak freely. Take this platform for existence. There's quite a few feminists thanks to Beauty Parlor, but otherwise I don't see anyone defending trannies or immigration or any other liberal idiocy. Left wing platforms are that way because the terms of service define anything remotely right wing as "hate speech". But right wing platforms are that way because leftists get absolutely destroyed when they try to debate anything so they often give up and leave on their own.

It really does feel like we are the silenced majority.
 
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