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Should be a wild four years.

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The best and greatest said:
Using public funds to buy the loyalty of the rabble is the sign of a dying republic
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It's more tying the interests of the people to your policy. The United States is the biggest market in the world, and we've been giving other countries free access to profit off of us. People getting a kickback for that access makes them invested in charging for access.

I actually don't think all Tariff proceeds should go to Stimmies, and I think my math was conservative enough that there is a fair bit of excess to go to debt or other programs, but I also think only giving $1000, or giving $2000 to half as many people and putting that money elsewhere would still have the same effect of making eliminating the Tariffs a toxic policy for future administrations.

(I also keep thinking my math is wrong, bit I think it's more that all the money printing that went on in 2020 went mostly to corporations and the Stimmies weren't nearly as damaging as PPP)
 
Aidan said:
This is an ironic response to being told not to take on debt you can't pay off.

Way easier said than done for most Americans under 30. You're saying to save up $40,000 on the low end just to entertain the option of buying a home.
  • Difficult to save up while in college with most also taking on at least some debt there
  • Difficult to get a job out of college for the past few years now
  • Those same jobs pay relatively less and often require moving to high cost of living areas
  • Bills have risen across the board
  • They need to build credit to qualify for a good loan
  • Now they also need to save up $40,000-$80,000 which will be even higher by the time they're able to buy
Set aside all of those issues, the fact is that 20, 30, 40+ years ago all of those hurdles were smaller or simply didn't exist.
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I agree that it is significantly harder for young people these days, but it can be done. My wife and I bought a house before we were 30, but we had the luxury of dual income and no kids, and we worked extra while spending very little. It's not impossible, but you have to work a lot more than the Boomers did (who are a bunch of entitled fucks and try to rewrite history by saying they had it hard).
 
Polyboros2 said:
It's more tying the interests of the people to your policy. The United States is the biggest market in the world, and we've been giving other countries free access to profit off of us. People getting a kickback for that access makes them invested in charging for access.

I actually don't think all Tariff proceeds should go to Stimmies, and I think my math was conservative enough that there is a fair bit of excess to go to debt or other programs, but I also think only giving $1000, or giving $2000 to half as many people and putting that money elsewhere would still have the same effect of making eliminating the Tariffs a toxic policy for future administrations.

(I also keep thinking my math is wrong, bit I think it's more that all the money printing that went on in 2020 went mostly to corporations and the Stimmies weren't nearly as damaging as PPP)
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PPP was one of the biggest disasters this country has ever perpetrated. there are going to be companies who scammed millions from the taxpayer and never see a single moment of retribution for it. i wonder what the actual calculation for the covid stimmies vs the ppp actually is. did niggers and poors cost more than the ppp did, or was the ppp worse?
 
MetokurGroomedMe said:
PPP was one of the biggest disasters this country has ever perpetrated. there are going to be companies who scammed millions from the taxpayer and never see a single moment of retribution for it. i wonder what the actual calculation for the covid stimmies vs the ppp actually is. did niggers and poors cost more than the ppp did, or was the ppp worse?
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Rather than smugly posting about business owners who got their PPP loans forgiven when they complained about student loan forgiveness, the Biden admin should have just immediately come to collect on all debts. That would have actually been based.
 
Jace on ice said:
The concept of a credit score isn't some sacred ancestral tradition passed down from the founding fathers it's an extremely recent invention by banks to grub even more shekels.
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Sorry for being a faggot, but the concept actually is an ancient tradition passed down from long before the founding fathers and is great. It's giving money (or in an even wide sense power) to people who have proven they capable of handling it and have a decent idea. This concept used to be done via just knowing people and their reputation, making sure they were raised right etc. That's actually a great concept.

I can't remember who it was but some guy in an interview was talking about how back in the day, loans would be given out by a local banker who knew the people he loaned to. If a farmer wanted a loan, a loan officer would literally go to his farm, observe it, and have dinner with the farmer's family and discuss things, maybe go to church with him. It gave him the chance to judge the farmer's content of character. This is infinitely valuable.

If you've ever loaned money to a friend, you probably weren't going through his checkbook or finances or asking for some written out plan, you just thought "oh yeah, tim is a good guy he'll pay me back when he can and i'm sure the money is going for something good".

That's the aspect that credit scores and society in general have completely removed form the equation. Basic human interaction. Obviously as things scale up we have to lean more towards data and less towards human interaction for practical reasons, but we've leaned too far.

Also the old fashioned way probably led to a lot of very heckin racist decisions from the loan officers, and as we know the modern world requires everyone to be reduced down to a number and any decisions made from anything other than that number is heckin fascism.

TLDR: we used to have a society now we have a beurocracy.
 
Hey Johnny Bravo said:
I agree that it is significantly harder for young people these days, but it can be done. My wife and I bought a house before we were 30, but we had the luxury of dual income and no kids, and we worked extra while spending very little. It's not impossible, but you have to work a lot more than the Boomers did (who are a bunch of entitled fucks and try to rewrite history by saying they had it hard).
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Sure it is, retard.

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To buy a home in almost all 50 states, you would need at the minimum a household income of $100,000 for the next 30 years of your life. And what are you buying?

A total piece of shit made of OSB and sheetrock thrown together by only the finest Honduran craftsmanship that will fall apart in the next 5 years that's asshole to elbow with another americattle dwelling.

And now congrats, you have your home! Over the next 30 years, you'll be paying over a million dollars in interest. This is if you can even get to this step.

The job security that boomer fucks had doesn't exist anymore. You are literally expendable cattle who can be replaced by some streetshitting curry creature overseas at anytime. And this is assuming that you can even find a job - most college graduates, especially in fields like computer science, can't.
"just learn a trade bro"
Better fucking hope you know someone at a union, unless you enjoy making 40k for the next 5 years.

Fuck you. Fuck you and every other delusional cunt who just says things that are outright lies.

It's better to invest in a rifle then it is your FICO score.
 
Polyboros2 said:
It's more tying the interests of the people to your policy. The United States is the biggest market in the world, and we've been giving other countries free access to profit off of us. People getting a kickback for that access makes them invested in charging for access.

I actually don't think all Tariff proceeds should go to Stimmies, and I think my math was conservative enough that there is a fair bit of excess to go to debt or other programs, but I also think only giving $1000, or giving $2000 to half as many people and putting that money elsewhere would still have the same effect of making eliminating the Tariffs a toxic policy for future administrations.

(I also keep thinking my math is wrong, bit I think it's more that all the money printing that went on in 2020 went mostly to corporations and the Stimmies weren't nearly as damaging as PPP)
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Id rather ALL of it go toward paying down our national debt but I get what you're putting down.
 
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She’s a mid pajeeta cosplaying as a white woman like all pajeetas do because they desperately want to be white so bad. I guarantee that all of the allure will disappear as soon as Mamdani’s wife fully hits the wall. Meanwhile, even with the old age of Melania, she still has a certain beauty to her, almost like she’s a classical Greek statue with a few cracks and all the color peeled off in that you can still appreciate its magnitude despite the passage of time.
 
Hey Johnny Bravo said:
I agree that it is significantly harder for young people these days, but it can be done. My wife and I bought a house before we were 30, but we had the luxury of dual income and no kids, and we worked extra while spending very little. It's not impossible, but you have to work a lot more than the Boomers did (who are a bunch of entitled fucks and try to rewrite history by saying they had it hard).
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Probably not much of door dash, restaurant meals, bars, and other money sinks.
 
BigGuyOS 6 : Jovial Janny said:
The DHS has moved on to just straight up posting American Hyperborea edits.
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I like how they replaced the Sonnenrad with a halo of either stars or stripes.
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The united states is 250 years old this next year

You could officially have payed off 5 houses by then

its tough seeing a hyper edit of our good history while the current leadership talks about how you need to be a debt slave for 50 years to even BEGIN to own a home.

And what point is just trying to make a cabin in the woods not a better option?

XYZpdq Jr. said:
I could see the 50 year thing working maybe as a homesteading type thing, commit to being part of the community for your life and get massive discounts on your house because you're invested in the place not going to shit
if I was just heading out from my parents that would be a tempting way to stay in town
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Homestead act was 5 years for 160 acres free and clear

now its 50 years for a piece of shit not designed to last 20 years
 
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