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Why the fuck are people defending a murder over a wine spill? I don't care if the guy was a racist asshole. This is not how a normal person should respond.
Let's be clear they didn't show any dialog to backup why he was killed. In the interviews Viv said that Alastor had some code. Maybe far later in show we will learn what code and why this guy was killed by him.
 
Why the fuck are people defending a murder over a wine spill? I don't care if the guy was a racist asshole. This is not how a normal person should respond.
Which also makes me laugh because it's accidentally perpetuating the stereotype of black men acting impulsive and violent over a trivial slight, lol
 
Why the fuck are people defending a murder over a wine spill? I don't care if the guy was a racist asshole. This is not how a normal person should respond.
The simple answer is that a good portion of Viv's fanbase have a meltdown anytime a character that isn't strictly a one dimensional villain does something bad and it's properly framed in the show as such, so they need to grasp at any straws they can to try and justify it. In their minds Alastor killed people because racism, and Alastor declined Vox's offer in such a harsh manner because of "Muh trauma response!" with Rosie.
 
Let's be clear they didn't show any dialog to backup why he was killed. In the interviews Viv said that Alastor had some code. Maybe far later in show we will learn what code and why this guy was killed by him.
I thought the code here was "anyone spites me, even minorly, must be stabbed". Granted, maybe if the guy apologized, Alastor wouldn't have killed him. It's hard to figure out now, since we've only seen one murder from Alastor when he was alive. We don't know why he killed the other people that are corpses in his shack.
 
What weapon would Michal use
Likely a long sword or a spear. Those are the two famous weapons as depicted in most of his art work when casting down satan. If you want to Record of Ragnarok this and have a cool factor, knuckle dusters or something equivalent.
 

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What weapon would Michal use

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Half the paintings of St. Michael are either him about to plant a sword in Satan's head, or basically being the one sober guy at the party, kicking people out. I kind of love how in most of the paintings its just a regular sword. Like, so often I feel like people associating him with having a flaming sword because of him being associated with Genesis because of works like Paradise Lost and then applying Genesis 3:24 to him or something crazy. But, Michael doesn't seem to need more than that, he's just using his basic sword to fight Satan and Dragons like its just business as usual.

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Half the paintings of St. Michael are either him about to plant a sword in Satan's head, or basically being the one sober guy at the party, kicking people out. I kind of love how in most of the paintings its just a regular sword. Like, so often I feel like people associating him with having a flaming sword because of him being associated with Genesis because of works like Paradise Lost and then applying Genesis 3:24 to him or something crazy. But, Michael doesn't seem to need more than that, he's just using his basic sword to fight Satan and Dragons like its just business as usual.

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In Icons Michael is often depicted with a sword
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But the other Archangels like Gabriel are depicted with spears
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Some icons have them hold shields as well (including a Roman scutum). Sometimes Michael wields both a sword and spear, representing his position as a military leader, though many miracles attributed to him were not related to battle.

It may interest you that there's a traditional story that a defeated Satan attempted to drag Michael to hell with him, but God intervened and saved Michael.
 
Half the paintings of St. Michael are either him about to plant a sword in Satan's head, or basically being the one sober guy at the party, kicking people out. I kind of love how in most of the paintings its just a regular sword. Like, so often I feel like people associating him with having a flaming sword because of him being associated with Genesis because of works like Paradise Lost and then applying Genesis 3:24 to him or something crazy. But, Michael doesn't seem to need more than that, he's just using his basic sword to fight Satan and Dragons like its just business as usual.
Iirc St. Ambrose spoke of Michael wielding a flaming sword too, so it's not just stuff like PL. In fact he was already being depicted as wielding a flaming sword in stuff like The Fall of the Rebel Angels by Luca Giordano, which was painted a full year before Paradise Lost was even out.
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In fact, another painting with the exact same name (and depicting the same thing I.E. Michael whooping their asses) painted by Frans Floris a full century before Paradise Lost also depicts him as wielding a sword covered in flame, though most of it is obscured.
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The flaming sword just is a good visual shorthand to set Michael apart as being incredibly powerful even compared to the rest of Heavens forces, on top of being cool as fuck. It's a flaming sword.
 
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Okay but him being a bird (which Viv is addicted to) and the tip of his beak being the visual of his mustache is a really good idea.

Edit: OMG IT'S BY ROVERDOSE, I didn't even realize it was him kek
he's the guy who made one of the first Cuckelle art pieces for Deltarune, a true visionary.
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Vox literally put Alastor in the cuck chair.

S2 is now 10/10, all is forgiven. Fuck that deer twink.

This is funnier than hell, no longer can you take a possible grand villain seriously when you put him in the cuck chair. Hell I'd argue even him getting raped would be less degradation because at least brutal vengeance can follow, but the cuck chair is where Idubbuz belongs and so does Alastor
 
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Goitler is surprisingly fitting.

If Viv was smart or had the balls, she'd make him a mystery villain that's charismatic and then it comes out he's actually Hitler and the show climax is to banish him or something. It will never happen, but even Captain Planet had a Hitler episode, but unfortunately they couldn't afford the moustache trademark.
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Goitler is surprisingly fitting.

If Viv was smart or had the balls, she'd make him a mystery villain that's charismatic and then it comes out he's actually Hitler and the show climax is to banish him or something. It will never happen, but even Captain Planet had a Hitler episode, but unfortunately they couldn't afford the moustache trademark.
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Wasn't he literally so evil that he was able to depower Captain Planet just by staring at him?
 
Wasn't he literally so evil that he was able to depower Captain Planet just by staring at him?
Kind of, it was more that he was so full of hatred that it was the same as toxic pollution. The plot of the episode was future Dr. Blight goes back in time to meet present Dr. Blight and they both go back in time to compete who can sell more nukes to Hitler because it's funny, during which they nuke a random town near them to show off the weapon to Hitler. At the end of the episode Hitler and the Blight's are arrested, with the soldiers finding their book on building nukes and comment that they should bring it to Einstein pronto.
 
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