US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Blewberry Nausea said:
There’s your weekend narrative folks
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These people piss me off beyond belief, I actually hope to god if the injuction is stayed and the spending has to be taken out of other programs that Trump just starts doing whatever the fuck he wants with appropriated congressional funds and point to this exact injuction as reasoning for doing so. Handing the power of the purse directly to the president like a bunch of retards.
 
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Davis said:
I believe the filibuster is a loophole utilizing the fact that there is limited time in a day, and since senators do not have a time limit on stating their opinions in front of the assembly (regardless of whether it is relevant), they can continuously talk until the meeting is adjourned, blocking the Senate from the opportunity to vote, thus keeping a simple majority from ever being technically achieved. This can be overruled by a 60+ vote to skip deliberations, a number I assume that the Senate made up decades if not centuries ago.
Now I do wonder how they are doing these filibusters, since I'm pretty sure they are not getting the decrepit up there to talk the whole time every day in order to stop the vote being put forward, so they must have made it lame and gay by allowing the Dems to just say "filibuster!" Or something and acting like they bravely stood on the podium and yapped until everyone gave up.
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Yes essentially before a bill is to be voted on, it is on the floor to be debated on. The modern rules state that there needs to be 60 votes to end debate, in order for a vote to be held. The minority party can endlessly claim for a bill to be in debate, while not actually debating, so the majority party would need 60 votes to formally end "debate mode" and start voting.

Essentially, this just means all bills need 60 votes to pass (current exceptions are judicial and executive nominees).
 
babyDunk said:
What is he even asking the supreme court for, and why in the world is he doing this ? I keep on hearing conflicting statements from him and then his lawyers

@obsdj you some kind of lawyer? You seem to enjoy keeping track of this shit, so please help a cracker out....what is going on?

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Either way this is definitely bad optics. Is drumf senile sperging again?
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The judge has the authority to declare the president to use the emergency funds to fund snap benefits, what he does not have is the authority to declare the full funding of said benefits, Trump was already going to dedicate 65% of the fund towards snap and save the rest for other programs this fund benefits like free school lunches.
The emergency fund is roughly 5 billion dollars and snap benefits cost approximately 9 billion dollars per month, by requesting the full benefit to be paid for the judge is requesting the full 9 billion to be paid which isn't in his power. Congress is the only branch of government with the power of the purse and money appropriated by congress can only be used for the purpose that it was appropriated for, the antideficiency act exists which directly states that the federal government cannot spend money that has not been appropriated by congress first, so by declaring an injunction to fund the full amount with a budget that is missing 4 billion dollars to be able to fund said amount the judiciary is directly telling the executive branch to violate the antideficiency act and to give the power of appropriating funds directly to the executive branch.
 
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Echo Rook said:
I agree this is what should be done, but I struggle to find a way to "temporarily" break the filibuster. This would just set a precedent that it can be broken at any time, thus rendering it useless. Still, a swift nuke of the filibuster, combined with as much legislation as possible to prevent the Democrats from ever gaining power in Congress or the Executive, is clearly what needs to happen. I cannot imagine what they would do if they find themselves in power again, but I know they will target anyone who does not support them.
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I'm up for bringing the old style filibuster back where you have to stand and keep talking until you're done, then allow them to pass to a senator of their chosing without repetition. If you truly don't want a bill to pass, each of the Senators who don't want it to can have their turn and when the last one gives up the vote is forced. It effectively puts a hard limit on how long it can go and the more people who support the filibuster the longer it can go.
Davis said:
I believe the filibuster is a loophole utilizing the fact that there is limited time in a day, and since senators do not have a time limit on stating their opinions in front of the assembly (regardless of whether it is relevant), they can continuously talk until the meeting is adjourned, blocking the Senate from the opportunity to vote, thus keeping a simple majority from ever being technically achieved. This can be overruled by a 60+ vote to skip deliberations, a number I assume that the Senate made up decades if not centuries ago.
Now I do wonder how they are doing these filibusters, since I'm pretty sure they are not getting the decrepit up there to talk the whole time every day in order to stop the vote being put forward, so they must have made it lame and gay by allowing the Dems to just say "filibuster!" Or something and acting like they bravely stood on the podium and yapped until everyone gave up.
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My understanding is that in the original form it was you cannot force a senator to give up the floor without invoking cloture which requires a 60 vote threshold. Originally, you had to stay there standing and keep talking, the Senate isn't adjourned you just have to keep going and when you stop it is over. The senate decided that is too hard and they want to do other things than listen to someone read chicken soup recipes, so they allowed the modern version where a senator can just declare a filibuster and then they move on to other stuff.
 
Joepedo was in Nebraska tonight for indians to wrap him in gay indian savagery, he looks bad even accounting for the lighting. Still yelling, trying to sound important, but the eyes show fear and confusion:

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Levitcus prime24 said:
Every commie politician was either a millionaire or friends with millionaires. The myth of communism being for the working man is a lie. Communism is an ideology created by rich people to dethrone other rich people so they can take power and they use the common man as a tool but is ready and willing to throw them away and their beliefs the second they take power.
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(Marx with J.P. Morgan, John D. Rockefeller, John D. Ryan, George W. Perkins, Andrew Carnegie, Teddy Roosevelt)
 
Oh! said:
That's pretty good but still not quite enough. Here's my idea:

Nuke them.
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While I can understand the sentiment, that is a bad idea. All the poo lying in the streets, unflushed, will get kicked up in the fallout, aeresolized and activated. While LA and Portland might deserve to covered in radioactive shit dust (just another day for them, really) it would have horrific effect on the marine marine wildlife throughout the pacific ocean. Recall how the American bald eagle nearly went extinct before DDT and other organochloride chemicals were banned by the EPA. Bioaccumlation up the food chain is an insidious thing. I really enjoy the taste of wild-caught pacific salmon, and would like it to not start tasting like the radioactive remnants of India. If I want to taste radioactive butt holes, I'll go visit a bathhouse in Richland, WA.


More AWS-8Q Than You said:
Right? It's funny and sad because both state parties have actual competent options and both state parties have decided to inflict the worst possible choices on the state. It's just fucking bleak.
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I propose a populist solution, one which, even if it ultimately fails, if it gains even a fraction of traction, will make the GOPe faggots trying to sabotage everything by forcing the shit-eater to utterly seethe, and thus be very, very funny.

Since you're being denied your primary, get together with some like-minded friends, and hash out who you think would be the most viable candidate. Even if you don't think they'll win without the backing of the local GOP, pick the person you think has the best chances of peeling votes away from the pajeet and the Democratic candidate.

Once you and your friends have your guy picked out, organize a write-in campaign. The GOPe faggots trying to coronate a shit-eater might be able to force their candidate, but the don't have to force you to vote for him. Get your friends to agree to write in your guy, get your friends' friends to agree to write-in. Organize. Hit the ground. Pass out flyers. Canvass. Convince others. And in all of this, be like the Kiwifarms jannies: do it for free.

If you get the buy in and official support from your preferred candidate, that will make it even funnier.

You'll get pushback and criticism. Other republicans will accuse you of trying to foment a populist mutiny within the party. Be open and honest that yes, that is exactly what you are doing. What are they going to do about it? Cry more? Donald Trump and MAGA were a populist mutiny at the federal level. Just as it was at the federal leve, it sounds like it is time the GOPe in Ohio be forced to face the fact that they can serve the interests of their consituants, or be replaced.
 
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Nature is fucking scary, this is a cancer that somehow managed to survive being cleaved off a jellyfish 500 million years ago and now evolved into a microscopic parasite of fish that can infest their brains, liver and skin, imagine your skin tags or cancer somehow evolving into deformed little humans running around?


To not make it off-topic, I'm starting to think people are too doomerish rn

The shutdown is a pain in the ass, but once it's solved people will forget about it during christmas or new's years eve, Trump needs to turn around, set a true economic and fiscal policy and make sure gas and food be cheaper or at least not increase in prices and he will have a good enough midterm.
 
Sekirodiealot said:
I'm not invested in the charlie kirk thing, but i feel like people judging the way Erica's grieving watches way too many movies.
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I feel the way people judge other people shows how ofter we forget we are individuals with different personalities and experiences and chemical reactions.

Also it’s way too much fun for some to be catty.
 
GamerGateSurvivor said:
That's not true. He also traces pictures of children to make his furry animal cub porn.
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There is something introspective about a tranny pedo baby furry retarded white dude, who constantly complains about racism, bigotry, and stereotypes, constantly pretending in black face equvilant to be a woman and constantly trying to woman-splain through his gay comic about a troon kid.

It's like, Plato's cave story or something, if Plato were a stupid asshole retard who hated lessons and people.
 
Why does anyone believe Trump is magically going to lower the price of anything? Gas prices are the same as they were last year, grocery prices are unchanged on pretty much anything except eggs and chicken, both of which you can probably expect to go up again if/when they resume killing all the birds because of bird flu which is rising again. For housing, 30 year interest rates are just about the same and higher than they were in September of last year and his niggerfaggot "big beautiful bill" eliminates the tax credits for home improvements at the end of this year.
 
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