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Tennis-Ball-Tony said:
I have heard furry Twitch streamers are generally thought of to be garbage tier since there's an extremely high likelihood of them creeping on underage people on that platform.
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Furries don't need to be streamers to have a high likelyhood

ZachZeeb said:
Due to the fandom becoming more mainstream(as well as their scandals) this is exactly what's happening. Plenty of parents disallow it. When the fandom was more obscure they got away with more. There are some small benefits to the fandom becoming more mainstream...
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I hope it gets to the point where being one is just straight up banned by the law
 
Dickbucketz 117 said:
I hope it gets to the point where being one is just straight up banned by the law
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That's extremely optimistic, instead It's either going to become so ubiquitous that the fandom as a whole will just be performative/a label that barely means anything (under a normal fandom like anime or such this would be when the tourists move in and completely destroy what it means to be part of said fandom), or it will sink back below the waves and hopefully return to some kind of standard that can churn out more furry centric lolcows.
 
General Zoider said:
That's extremely optimistic, instead It's either going to become so ubiquitous that the fandom as a whole will just be performative/a label that barely means anything (under a normal fandom like anime or such this would be when the tourists move in and completely destroy what it means to be part of said fandom), or it will sink back below the waves and hopefully return to some kind of standard that can churn out more furry centric lolcows.
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A man needs to have dreams and hopes
 
F-list apparently had a news post saying they will store messages unencrypted, the users got upset by this.

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Lots of bullshit "privacy concerns" but it probably has something to do with the pedophiles that use the site to share CSAM or that groom real children in the chat.
 
Hiphopopotamus said:
F-list apparently had a news post saying they will store messages unencrypted, the users got upset by this.

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Lots of bullshit "privacy concerns" but it probably has something to do with the pedophiles that use the site to share CSAM or that groom real children in the chat.
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F-List doesn't want to answer to law enforcement agencies, understandable. And for whomever happens to uphold libertarian ideals, I will question them: Why does it always have to be "freedom to be a fucking DEGENERATE"? Why can't it be a freedom to choose to follow specific doctrines based on X, Y or Z?
 
General Zoider said:
That's extremely optimistic, instead It's either going to become so ubiquitous that the fandom as a whole will just be performative/a label that barely means anything (under a normal fandom like anime or such this would be when the tourists move in and completely destroy what it means to be part of said fandom), or it will sink back below the waves and hopefully return to some kind of standard that can churn out more furry centric lolcows.
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Tha ties into what I mentioned in page 999 (was 1.000) and other times after that: while the ideal way of dealing wi the massive lust of the furry fandom would be a turn to Jesus, the more likely way would be having the furry fandom be mainstream. Either corporations will get rid of what makes the furry fandom exceptional, or enough normies will dilute th exceptionalism of the furry fandom, which may also cause the sid effect o furverts breaking off the larger fandom because they claim to bein 'gentrified' from the fandom.

Speaking of Jesus, here is one of Garo's videos on the subject:

I can tell that he is really stretching the definition of 'short'... rying to cram a full video in a short format. Assuming that he is being sincere, then he seems to be jus trying to work wi the shorts-oriented YouTube atmosphere.
 
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The Ultimate Ramotith said:
Tha ties into what I mentioned in page 1000 and other times after that: while the ideal way of dealing wi the massive lust of the furry fandom would be a turn to Jesus, the more likely way would be having the furry fandom be mainstream. Either corporations will get rid of what makes the furry fandom exceptional, or enough normies will dilute th exceptionalism of the furry fandom, which may also cause the sid effect o furverts breaking off the larger fandom because they claim to bein 'gentrified' from the fandom.

Speaking of Jesus, here is one of Garo's videos on the subject:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8trAcKoVyZk
Dangers of the Furry Fandom [8trAcKoVyZk].mp4

I can tell that he is really stretching the definition of 'short'... rying to cram a full video in a short format. Assuming that he is being sincere, then he seems to be jus trying to work wi the shorts-oriented YouTube atmosphere.
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I've seen a few furries recently turn to Christianity. In basis they don't really change that much, they just throw bible quotes around and flaunt their enlarged ego.
 
Rukario said:
In basis they don't really change that much, they just throw bible quotes around and flaunt their enlarged ego.
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Spouting the word is one thing, but leading by example and demonstrating those values in practice is what matters. That and turning to christ doesn't magically make you a better person overnight.

As for Garo, there hasn't been any new NSFW commissions posted for 2 years now on FA. So either it's more credence to being legitimate or he's hiding from the public at the very least.
 
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Rukario said:
I've seen a few furries recently turn to Christianity. In basis they don't really change that much, they just throw bible quotes around and flaunt their enlarged ego.
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I know one fur who cleaned up his act and became born-again, and he actively participates in his church and 180'd into one of the most conservative people I know. (IIRC he was always conservative-leaning but I guess got burned badly enough that he realized there was nothing to be had trying to stay apolitical.) @Moonglade Feral Druid is correct in that simply saying "I'm Christian now" isn't really good enough, it's making a commitment and following through.
 
Rukario said:
I've seen a few furries recently turn to Christianity. In basis they don't really change that much, they just throw bible quotes around and flaunt their enlarged ego.
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Moonglade Feral Druid said:
Spouting the word is one thing, but leading by example and demonstrating those values in practice is what matters. That and turning to christ doesn't magically make you a better person overnight.

As for Garo, there hasn't been any new NSFW commissions posted for 2 years now on FA. So either it's more credence to being legitimate or he's hiding from the public at the very least.
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This is the prime example of someone who pretends to be a follower of Christ but sins like Satan.
 
Barry Williams said:
I know one fur who cleaned up his act and became born-again, and he actively participates in his church and 180'd into one of the most conservative people I know. (IIRC he was always conservative-leaning but I guess got burned badly enough that he realized there was nothing to be had trying to stay apolitical.) @Moonglade Feral Druid is correct in that simply saying "I'm Christian now" isn't really good enough, it's making a commitment and following through.
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Accurate. As far as I know there's nothing in the Bible saying that fucking dogs, spreading STDs, and ripping people off with commissions and adoptables is allowed. But you can be sure most of the degenerate furries aren't willing to give that up, salvation be damned.
 
Becoming a Christian and reading the Bible doesn't change who a person is. They still have to put in the work to deny sin and all that, and for many people that takes time and discipline. It is possible, but as mentioned likely isn't going to happen in some grand public gesture while remaining sincere. Posting Bible quotes or talking about your journey is normie tier; suddenly making it your whole life is cause for an eyebrow raise.

Like any new habit, it ought to be modest and sustained in order for it to stick. I wish the best for any furries turning towards a healthier lifestyle and stepping away from sexual sin or the greed associated with taking/buying furry porn commissions. Arguably the best thing they can do is step back, since the fandom is unironic demon worshipping sodomites.

The concept of a Christian furry is a bit of a misnomer to me, because identifying as a furry is in conflict with the idea of centering your life on Christ and having an identity through God. Liking furries is different than identifying as one or being a therian on the more extreme end. I'm not an expert on theology but afaik that's generally a faux-pas.
 
ZachZeeb said:
Becoming a Christian and reading the Bible doesn't change who a person is. They still have to put in the work to deny sin and all that, and for many people that takes time and discipline. It is possible, but as mentioned likely isn't going to happen in some grand public gesture while remaining sincere. Posting Bible quotes or talking about your journey is normie tier; suddenly making it your whole life is cause for an eyebrow raise.
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Precisely. Pretty much like I said before - I too can say a lot of stuff. However, shutting the fuck up and turning my life around (which denizens of the internet won't know) is something else. But maybe that's the "problem": people WANT others to know how they "changed", while this isn't the focus. If (royal) you changed, others will see and the biggest benefactor should be (royal) you, and with time everyone will see this. Give some hints on the internet, but keep it short and sweet, I guess?
ZachZeeb said:
Like any new habit, it ought to be modest and sustained in order for it to stick. I wish the best for any furries turning towards a healthier lifestyle and stepping away from sexual sin or the greed associated with taking/buying furry porn commissions. Arguably the best thing they can do is step back, since the fandom is unironic demon worshipping sodomites.
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Whole heartedly agree. Basically if people ask "where have you been" and it warrants a public notice, make it. Otherwise, just warn said people. And the furries basically love their fucking faggot shit, they latched onto the "Pri-DEMON-th" meme and made "it" a character as if that were a "brilliant" stunt move, or so I heard. If that is true, they definitely haven't beaten any allegations.
 
Rukario said:
Accurate. As far as I know there's nothing in the Bible saying that fucking dogs, spreading STDs, and ripping people off with commissions and adoptables is allowed. But you can be sure most of the degenerate furries aren't willing to give that up, salvation be damned.
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At some point I'll have to go find the exact scriptures when I'm not the most tired wretch in the universe, but believe you me, things like bestiality, defiling ones body/harming others, and dishonest business practices are all quite thoroughly and explicitly condemned in the bible, whether by name or by principle!
 
ZachZeeb said:
The concept of a Christian furry is a bit of a misnomer to me, because identifying as a furry is in conflict with the idea of centering your life on Christ and having an identity through God. Liking furries is different than identifying as one or being a therian on the more extreme end. I'm not an expert on theology but afaik that's generally a faux-pas.
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Outer Space Traveller said:
Precisely. Pretty much like I said before - I too can say a lot of stuff. However, shutting the fuck up and turning my life around (which denizens of the internet won't know) is something else. But maybe that's the "problem": people WANT others to know how they "changed", while this isn't the focus. If (royal) you changed, others will see and the biggest benefactor should be (royal) you, and with time everyone will see this. Give some hints on the internet, but keep it short and sweet, I guess?
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Thing is all "identities" are inherently performative. Also includes religions (lit. thing you constantly reinforce), as, yeah, they're also identities. Meaning that full identity / religion conversions are always going to be performative, and really only just performative. A "proper" conversion would be non-performative of course, but would require even more performativeness. Plus identities can be pretty maliable in definition (e.g. can a "furry" be "christian"?), which makes it almost infinitely confusing.

I dunno, if somebody really wanted to get their life together, they'd just drop the whole identity thing and do what functions for their goals. Most identity conversions I've witnessed seem to follow a pattern of a high due to perception of improvement, and then drops. They often look more like mental breakdowns, honestly. Judging by the initial video by Garo, his identity conversion is definitely a mental breakdown; he talks really frightenedly, not as if this were a good thing.
 
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