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Should be a wild four years.

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Looks like Prop 50 has been passed, and MIGA-faggots have now taken another L.

Man, it must suck being a worshipper of an orange pedophile, huh?

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I saw this earlier. It’s not that big of a loss. California is full of enough brownoids and welfare leaches that any conservative efforts are immediately extinguished. I just feel sorry for conservative Californians, whose meager representation has been almost completely eradicated. I don’t want gerrymandering of any sort, but the world, and especially politics, isn’t perfect.
 
Politico: Democratic Voters Bury Bidenism and Embrace Disruption (archive)
By Alexander Burns - 11/04/2025
After the failure of a presidency built on restoring norms, Democrats are rejecting the past and betting on upheaval.

The Democratic sweep on Tuesday night delivered a forceful signal that backlash is building against the Trump administration’s policies.

Many voters also sent another message: They’re done with Bidenism.

After the failure of a presidency that promised a return to normalcy, Democrats and plenty of independent voters on Tuesday embraced political disruption instead. Rather than voting to restore conventions sundered by President Donald Trump, these blue-state voters turned to more drastic remedies.

In New York City, they embraced ideological radicalism and elevated a 34-year-old far-left activist — Zohran Mamdani — to one of the nation’s most vexing executive jobs.

In California, radical politics found expression not in democratic socialism but in democratic procedure. Faced with a Republican push to gerrymander red states for the midterm elections, Gov. Gavin Newsom and his party tore up California’s nonpartisan redistricting process and asked voters to approve a new election map obliterating the GOP.

Newsom, defending the Proposition 50 campaign, declared in a Sunday “Meet the Press” interview that political traditionalism was finished.

“The rules of the game have changed. Now, we have to rewrite the new rules,” Newsom said, adding: “Of course we want to go back to some semblance of normalcy. But you have to deal with the crisis at hand.”

Politics now moves at such an astonishing speed that it is easy to miss what a revealing shift this is for a party that spent much of the last decade trumpeting contented, self-soothing slogans about how America was already great, and Trump was on the wrong side of history.

No one did more to perpetuate that version of politics than Joe Biden, who launched his campaign in 2019 with the claim that Trump’s presidency was merely an “aberrant moment in time.” For the five years that followed, Biden committed himself and his party to resurrecting pre-Trump Washington, including norms around legislative procedure and the judicial system that more confrontational Democrats wanted to abandon.

His political vision and vernacular were anchored in nostalgia for the remote past — wanting to be the new FDR, deriding Trump as an insult to George Washington’s legacy — and his most inventive political tactic was giving flag-draped, set-piece speeches at postcard locations like Gettysburg and Washington’s Union Station.

The one form of radical politics Biden adopted enthusiastically as president was the politics of identity, slicing the electorate into classes of race, gender and sexual orientation, and speaking to voters chiefly as avatars of their strategist-assigned identity blocs. He did this even as most voters, across all demographics, were concerned above all with the soaring cost of living.

The result was electoral ruin and Trump’s return to power.

This week, even the less-radical Democratic victors represent a repudiation of Biden’s approach and the old-line Democratic leadership in other ways. In Virginia, voters elected as their state’s first female governor a centrist former lawmaker, Abigail Spanberger, who was also a forceful critic of Biden at key moments during his term. In New Jersey, Rep. Mikie Sherrill won election as governor after a career in Congress marked by open conflict with Nancy Pelosi, the powerful House speaker whom Sherrill dared to oppose.

Driving a spike through Bidenism is not the same thing as inventing a successful new version of Democratic politics.

Yet as we have seen on the right, burying an unsuccessful presidency can be part of the political recovery process. The radicalism of the tea party movement in 2010 rained chaos on the Republican Party in Washington and undermined its quest to unseat Barack Obama in 2012. It also helped sever the GOP from George W. Bush’s presidency, in the public mind, and opened the way for the wholesale reinvention of conservative politics under Trump.

Mayor-elect Mamdani is not likely to be a useful template for most Democrats. In addition to holding economic and foreign policy views that put him outside the national mainstream, Mamdani will soon confront a strenuous test of his credibility in high office, as New Yorkers look for action on cost of living, quality of life and public safety issues that have confounded more experienced leaders.

Still, Mamdani’s rise is certain to further embolden other progressive figures, like Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, to lay claim to national leadership and authorship of the party’s new identity.

Newsom’s evolution as a party leader has been — and remains — somewhat less predictable. The California governor at first responded to Trump’s second election not by declaring war on the Republican Party but by launching a podcast to engage MAGA figures like Steve Bannon and the late Charlie Kirk. Newsom’s emergence as a partisan crusader happened later and — as my colleagues reported in a definitive account of the Prop 50 campaign’s inception — not entirely by his own design.

The development of his leadership role from here is one of the most important question marks hanging over the Democratic Party as it looks toward 2026 and 2028.

But for the wider cast of Democrats who want to lay claim to the party’s future, the overall direction of travel is now clear enough: away from mourning broken norms and toward the politics of disruption.
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Let's not pretend that tonight wasn't a giant assfucking for team Red - I can see the fireball of the VA GOP from here in the Midwest - but part of this result is reversion to blue-state status (NJ, VA), local issues (GA Public Service Commission) and Dems having a propensity advantage via being really mad (PA Judicial races).
Although a "don't extrapolate too much" warning for '26 still applies ('21 didn't correspond to '22, and '23 didn't correspond to '24), I think the GOP moving forward needs to brace for impact in '26. Will we see a redux of 2018? Before today I would have said no (now I think it is possible at the very deep end), and it still isn't a foregone conclusion. But there is still time to mitigate a liberal victory that I think will happen in some proportion next November.
I guess one more thought - Despite everything today, Donald Trump is still President of the United States. Would you have tolerated a Kamala Harris presidency to have gains in the governorships, legislatures, and courts today?
 
I have no idea what the party is going to do after Trump's second term is over. Even though I like him more I don't think Vance has the ability to carry the mantle and I'm afraid the party as a whole is just going to slip back into spineless neoconservatism while the Dems have become full commies
What vance needs to do more of is troll and joke more for the gen z vote (clown on newsom), be funny but keep it under trump’s eccentricity to gain more of those people who go “oh trump is so weird so I don’t vote for him” BS. maybe cook up some new policies and If zoran IS able to drive ny into the ground or we see an uptick in the economy by the end of trump’s term he can coast on those to be elected
 
but part of this result is reversion to blue-state status (NJ, VA), local issues (GA Public Service Commission) and Dems having a propensity advantage via being really mad (PA Judicial races).
NJ and VA both have voted Democrat since Al Gore (2000) This is not the massive win you think.
 
2022 certainly spoke volumes for republicans, didn't it? Remember the red wave that never materialized because he wasn't on the ticket?
The GOP's a feckless loser. If Trump decided he wanted to be rich and unbothered by everyone's bullshit, we'd have had two terms of Hillary Clinton and God knows who running shit now. Trump had to grab the GOP by its collective pussy and drag them kicking and screaming into the winner's circle.

The voters have to primary those faggots out. Otherwise they'll have to rely on leaders like Trump to make them act like they got their shit together.
 
Politico: Democratic Voters Bury Bidenism and Embrace Disruption (archive)
By Alexander Burns - 11/04/2025
After the failure of a presidency built on restoring norms, Democrats are rejecting the past and betting on upheaval.

The Democratic sweep on Tuesday night delivered a forceful signal that backlash is building against the Trump administration’s policies.

Many voters also sent another message: They’re done with Bidenism.

After the failure of a presidency that promised a return to normalcy, Democrats and plenty of independent voters on Tuesday embraced political disruption instead. Rather than voting to restore conventions sundered by President Donald Trump, these blue-state voters turned to more drastic remedies.

In New York City, they embraced ideological radicalism and elevated a 34-year-old far-left activist — Zohran Mamdani — to one of the nation’s most vexing executive jobs.

In California, radical politics found expression not in democratic socialism but in democratic procedure. Faced with a Republican push to gerrymander red states for the midterm elections, Gov. Gavin Newsom and his party tore up California’s nonpartisan redistricting process and asked voters to approve a new election map obliterating the GOP.

Newsom, defending the Proposition 50 campaign, declared in a Sunday “Meet the Press” interview that political traditionalism was finished.

“The rules of the game have changed. Now, we have to rewrite the new rules,” Newsom said, adding: “Of course we want to go back to some semblance of normalcy. But you have to deal with the crisis at hand.”

Politics now moves at such an astonishing speed that it is easy to miss what a revealing shift this is for a party that spent much of the last decade trumpeting contented, self-soothing slogans about how America was already great, and Trump was on the wrong side of history.

No one did more to perpetuate that version of politics than Joe Biden, who launched his campaign in 2019 with the claim that Trump’s presidency was merely an “aberrant moment in time.” For the five years that followed, Biden committed himself and his party to resurrecting pre-Trump Washington, including norms around legislative procedure and the judicial system that more confrontational Democrats wanted to abandon.

His political vision and vernacular were anchored in nostalgia for the remote past — wanting to be the new FDR, deriding Trump as an insult to George Washington’s legacy — and his most inventive political tactic was giving flag-draped, set-piece speeches at postcard locations like Gettysburg and Washington’s Union Station.

The one form of radical politics Biden adopted enthusiastically as president was the politics of identity, slicing the electorate into classes of race, gender and sexual orientation, and speaking to voters chiefly as avatars of their strategist-assigned identity blocs. He did this even as most voters, across all demographics, were concerned above all with the soaring cost of living.

The result was electoral ruin and Trump’s return to power.

This week, even the less-radical Democratic victors represent a repudiation of Biden’s approach and the old-line Democratic leadership in other ways. In Virginia, voters elected as their state’s first female governor a centrist former lawmaker, Abigail Spanberger, who was also a forceful critic of Biden at key moments during his term. In New Jersey, Rep. Mikie Sherrill won election as governor after a career in Congress marked by open conflict with Nancy Pelosi, the powerful House speaker whom Sherrill dared to oppose.

Driving a spike through Bidenism is not the same thing as inventing a successful new version of Democratic politics.

Yet as we have seen on the right, burying an unsuccessful presidency can be part of the political recovery process. The radicalism of the tea party movement in 2010 rained chaos on the Republican Party in Washington and undermined its quest to unseat Barack Obama in 2012. It also helped sever the GOP from George W. Bush’s presidency, in the public mind, and opened the way for the wholesale reinvention of conservative politics under Trump.

Mayor-elect Mamdani is not likely to be a useful template for most Democrats. In addition to holding economic and foreign policy views that put him outside the national mainstream, Mamdani will soon confront a strenuous test of his credibility in high office, as New Yorkers look for action on cost of living, quality of life and public safety issues that have confounded more experienced leaders.

Still, Mamdani’s rise is certain to further embolden other progressive figures, like Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, to lay claim to national leadership and authorship of the party’s new identity.

Newsom’s evolution as a party leader has been — and remains — somewhat less predictable. The California governor at first responded to Trump’s second election not by declaring war on the Republican Party but by launching a podcast to engage MAGA figures like Steve Bannon and the late Charlie Kirk. Newsom’s emergence as a partisan crusader happened later and — as my colleagues reported in a definitive account of the Prop 50 campaign’s inception — not entirely by his own design.

The development of his leadership role from here is one of the most important question marks hanging over the Democratic Party as it looks toward 2026 and 2028.

But for the wider cast of Democrats who want to lay claim to the party’s future, the overall direction of travel is now clear enough: away from mourning broken norms and toward the politics of disruption.
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Meanwhile Republicans will do nothing but kvetch and bend over for Israel for the hundred thousandth time. America will become a socialist caliphate by the end of the decade.
 
I have no idea what the party is going to do after Trump's second term is over. Even though I like him more I don't think Vance has the ability to carry the mantle and I'm afraid the party as a whole is just going to slip back into spineless neoconservatism while the Dems have become full commies

I think that Vance is the real deal, and I think that Trump picked him as his VP for specific reasons ... And those reasons involve passing the mantle (whenever that happens-- Remember, Trump isn't a spring chicken, so this could happen at any given moment, realistically speaking).

Personally, I do think that Vance has that "it" factor, though he would obviously have to be careful about choosing his running mate in 2028. Vance has the charisma and some of the meme magic that Trump has ... But he's definitely more polished and refined than Trump. I think that Vance has that "normie" appeal for MAGA.

Love him or hate him, I did see a clip from Gavin McInnes a few weeks ago of him saying that he'll feel much better about the state of the country if a MAGA candidate could win one more consecutive term (so, in 2028 obviously). Personally, I agree with that assessment. 2024 felt fantastic because of many reasons (but mostly because it felt like the country had dodged a bullet ... In more ways than one), but these next few years are about getting back on the right track. We'll know if Trump successfully managed to do that in 3 years by seeing the results of the 2028 election.
 
I have no idea what the party is going to do after Trump's second term is over. Even though I like him more I don't think Vance has the ability to carry the mantle and I'm afraid the party as a whole is just going to slip back into spineless neoconservatism while the Dems have become full commies
Yeah I have a feeling that the Republican party post Trump is just going to revert back to the same idiocy that it did post Nixon.
Reagan really screwed up the party by bringing in the overtly religious and making it about that neocon bullshit.
And the Democrats have always been spineless flip-floppers, it's in their nature. That's why you hear so many people complain that the Republicans of today feel like the Democrats of the 90s. I remember the same people who were against illegal immigration in the Democratic party being the champions of "No one is illegal" today unironically.
You are going to see everyone who wants to remain in power (basically everyone Democrat) embrace communism with open arms. Meanwhile the Republican party is going to have to wait for these holy rollers who hijacked the party 50 years ago to start dying off before any real changes can be made.
Don't get me wrong I believe that Jesus is my lord and savior, I just don't think there's any room for it in politics. Separation of church and state and all.
 
And Nick Fuentes is talking about Israel again.

Specifically about the Heritage Foundation being bullied by jews. Important, but he went on a 10 minute spiel on what the sabbath and I'm like.

Nigga, get to the point.
What did he say about the Sabbath?

Also I'm guessing he didn't mention the heritage foundation trying to cancel anyone who disagreed with Roberts and make sure they can't get jobs in the industry

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Meanwhile the Republican party is going to have to wait for these holy rollers who hijacked the party 50 years ago to start dying off before any real changes can be made.
By then it will be too late. Once the socialists have their way with America, change will be impossible, let alone victory. Just look at most of Europe.
 
Related: https://expression.fire.org/p/male-students-show-more-tolerance

Men really aren't understanding how extreme women have become over the past decade or so.
There's a reason every single successful culture society and civilization in history has put massive restrictions on females' political and social power. They're basically mentally stunted children, easily manipulated and complete slaves to their emotions. They will let the barbarians through the gates as long as one of them can pout properly.
 
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