US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

Helpful links for those who need them:

Current members of the House of Representatives
https://www.house.gov/representatives

Current members of the Senate
https://www.senate.gov/senators/

Current members of the US Supreme Court
https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx

Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[Fatpacks]

Writing's on the wall.

Donald Trump Approval Rating at Second-Term Low With Conservative Pollster​

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U.S. President Donald Trump's approval rating has hit a second-term low, according to a pollster said to be supportive of Republican candidates.
According to Rasmussen Reports, a pollster that has been accused of leaning toward Republican candidates but claims to be independent, Trump's net approval rating is -8 percentage points. As per their tracker, this is the president's lowest approval rating since his second term started in January.
The White House sent Newsweek a link to a post Trump made on Truth Social which read: "So many Fake Polls are being shown by the Radical Left Media, all slanted heavily toward Democrats and Far Left Wingers. In the Fair Polls, and even the Reasonable Polls, I have the Best Numbers I have ever had and, why shouldn’t I? I ended eight Wars, created the Greatest Economy in the History of our Country, kept Prices, Inflation, and Taxes down, and am setting standards for Right Track / Wrong Track for a future U.S.A. Fake News will never change, they are evil and corrupt but, as I look around my beautiful surroundings, I say to myself, 'Oh, look, I’m sitting in the Oval Office!'"

Why It Matters​

Rasmussen is said to favor Republicans and Trump has in the past praised it as an accurate pollster while he has attacked others for apparent bias. Negative polling from Rasmussen will, therefore, come as a blow to his narrative.

What To Know​

According to Rasmussen Report's daily tracker, 45 percent of likely U.S. voters approve of Trump's job performance while 53 percent disapprove.
It polled 1,500 likely voters and there was a margin of error of +/- 2.5 percentage points.
The tracker showed that Trump's popularity peaked at the start of his second term, when 56 percent of people approved of him on January 23.
It has fluctuated since then and fell to 47 percent in April, when Trump first implemented his tariffs policy, and to 46 percent in October during the first few days of the ongoing government shutdown.
Mark Mitchell, head of polling at Rasmussen said Trump's approval rating was "dropping, driven strongly by independents, as you would expect in a shutdown."
"We also had polling that says people want him more focused on a domestic policy agenda, so I think that sentiment is contributing to the drop," he told Newsweek.
He added: "The drop isn't as big as the last big shut down, and his approval is higher than where [Joe] Biden and Trump were at this point before. So it's bad, but not a death knell catastrophe. And of course, my numbers don't show him doing as badly as fake polls like the AP. And of course, our poll never showed Biden doing as badly as some others, either."
It comes amid other negative polling about the president. A recent poll by The Economist/YouGov found Trump’s approval rating at its lowest level since he returned to office in January, with 39 percent of people saying they approved of the job he is doing, while 58 percent disapproving, resulting in a net approval rating of -19 points.
According to RealClearPolitics, which aggregates several polls, the president's net approval rating is at -8.9 percentage points, the lowest in his second term so far, as per the website's tracker.
The polling average found that 44.3 percent of people approve of Trump's job performance and 53.2 percent disapprove of it, amid an ongoing government shutdown.
Nate Silver, who founded 538, said in a blog that at the start of last week, Trump's net approval rating was -9.2 percentage points, but by the end it had declined to -10.8 points.

What People Are Saying​

President Donald Trump said on his social media platform Truth Social on Monday: "So many Fake Polls are being shown by the Radical Left Media, all slanted heavily toward Democrats and Far Left Wingers…Fake News will never change, they are evil and corrupt but, as I look around my beautiful surroundings, I say to myself, 'Oh, look, I’m sitting in the Oval Office!'"

What Happens Next​

Pollsters will continue to track Trump's approval rating throughout his presidency.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

I hate that picture so fucking much. What a tremendous waste of life, time and material. To think I was gung-ho to join in high school so I could invade Iraq...young and stupid.

I was right there too. I think everyone around the right age that saw the towers fall felt an intrinsic desire to fight back and defend the country. And it was taken and squandered and abused and created a new generation of disillusioned people comparable to the Great War. Thankfully my mom talked me into staying out of it.

 

[indomitable snowman]

Dick Cheney dead at 84
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https://x.com/FoxNews/status/1985669668955172971

https://archive.ph/AJLEq

https://x.com/AIPAC/status/1985717628925616316

https://archive.ph/hmzKa

AIPACs strongest soldier is mourned by them.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

Writing's on the wall.

You doing okay buddy? Getting enough to eat?

 

[Sensitive Young Man]

You doing okay buddy? Getting enough to eat?

He’s just missing the EBT lobster tails.

 

[The Ugly One]

I was right there too. I think everyone around the right age that saw the towers fall felt an intrinsic desire to fight back and defend the country. And it was taken and squandered and abused and created a new generation of disillusioned people comparable to the Great War. Thankfully my mom talked me into staying out of it.

The GWOT taught me that the leaders of the GOP are soulless, cynical bastards who view the lives of young men in this country as nothing more than a sort of currency. I think this had a lot to do with Trump winning, because the GOP had collapsed its own credibility among its own voters due to that stupid war.

 

[RantyAndy]

Am I impatient or is this a slow election day?

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Am I impatient or is this a slow election day?

there's been multiple bomb threats and a candidate kicked at a dog
it ain't _that_ nothing

 

[Delany's Donkey]

I know it's probably been mentioned in the thread a ton, but Based Trump for Ignoring Judges with no power over him. This is the kind of shit i want to see, do more of this.

link

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

i know him well enough to not think it was deliberate. I dont really see the point of a broker for an individual because the aca market covers more.

Yeah, those slimy brokers are charismatic enough that people recommending them in good faith don't know the truth until after the fact unfortunately. I also agree that it's easier to enroll in an ACA plan directly if you know what you want

Wouldn't the IDs allow voting centers to better keep track of how many people visited the location and prevent ballot stuffing happening later in the process?

And that's exactly why the usual suspects oppose it or any other ID requirements all while looking the other way when voting shenanigans take place.

Where do you guys research candidates before you vote?

For local elections, I use a local newspaper that lists the candidates and their responses to questions regarding their stances. If I can, I try to avoid anyone whose answers suggest they favor policies I strongly oppose.

Am I impatient or is this a slow election day?

Could be the fact many elections today will have low turnout. Barely 10% of my precinct showed up for in-person voting when I cast my vote. I have no idea how many people vote early or absentee here, but turnout usually sucks here when the only thing on the ballot is local stuff. YMMV.

 

[Amelia Troonheart]

yeah
IVF is a _very_ touchy subject for pro-life with various takes because of how it's usually more r-type mass production
you spam a bunch of them
doc pics the best one
it goes in
the rest don't

Catching up on thread so maybe somebody else said it already but there are ethical ways to do it. You only fertilize the number you implant per round. So while normally you may fertilize 5-8 and pick the most viable, storing or killing or donating the rest, this way you fertilize 2-3 and implant them all. No leftovers, no killing embryos, no eugenics.

I have a friend who did it this way and ended up with twins.
There are downsides though. IVF already has a high failure rate so it means more rounds of egg harvesting which is uncomfortable and it's more expensive. But sometimes respecting life comes with costs. My friend had no regrets doing it the way she did. And her twins are now preschool age and very cute.

Edit to add: She also had a son conceived naturally prior to this and sought IVF after multiple miscarriages I think related to PCOS. Conceived with the twins in her 30s. Both are normal and healthy.

 

[RantyAndy]

there's been multiple bomb threats and a candidate kicked at a dog
it ain't _that_ nothing

Sadly the former happens commonly enough it's almost not even news worthy anymore.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

"A Pennsylvania man is arrested for Threats to do Bodily Harm for threatening to kill a Member of Congress."

I'm putting 5 on Randy fine

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

FBI Warns of Criminals Posing as ICE, Urges Agents to ID Themselves​

In a bulletin to law enforcement agencies, the FBI said criminal impersonators are exploiting ICE’s image and urged nationwide coordination to distinguish real operations from fakes.

https://www.wired.com/story/fbi-warns-of-criminals-posing-as-ice-urges-agents-to-id-themselves/

https://archive.ph/RGnKv

“Ensure law enforcement personnel adequality [sic] identify themselves during operations and cooperate with individuals who request further verification,” it says.

 

[Gar For Archer]

Mamdani needs to lose and have someone tell him he is a bad person to his face.

no, it's definitely better for him to win, only to run into the brick wall of reality when he tries to actually implement any of his policies.

I know it's probably been mentioned in the tread a ton, but Based Trump for Ignoring Judges with no power over him. This is the kind of shit i want to see, do more of this.
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Realistically there isn't any other option to take. The court might as well be ordering him to turn water into wine.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

"A Pennsylvania man is arrested for Threats to do Bodily Harm for threatening to kill a Member of Congress."

I'm putting 5 on Randy fine

three quatloos on Grug

 

[WelperHelper99]

The thing about government-funded R&D is it is more resistant to the market than private R&D. Private companies might give up on a project because it's not making returns, while the government can and will continue to fund a project if it deems the project important enough. This can lead to lots of waste, like USAID funding bullshit tranny studies. It can also lead to 22-year projects like GPS which are revolutionary.

Government funding is the only reason some things are able to happen. Like going to the moon. Really there is nothing there that isn't on earth. But we wanted all the technolgy for our ICBM's, so we funded it anyway, reguardless of cost.

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Another part of Cheney's legacy is how they still recruit at high schools. I never joined up, though pic related comes to mind - because who would this jingoistic, unable to read a room tweet be encouraging to join up besides teenagers and young adults, and not older and jaded adults like us who understand the realities of it?

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I wish i joined in high school, because the military is fucking based and i want to shoot shit from an AC-130.

 

[Netizennameless]

The only way for territory to leave the jurisdiction of the federal government is via the consent of Congress. This can be done via treaty, which requires Senate ratification, or another compact, which requires the consent of Congress per Article I, Section 10. The Southern states didn't pursue constitutional options for leaving at all.

Thanks for this.

The GWOT taught me that the leaders of the GOP are soulless, cynical bastards who view the lives of young men in this country as nothing more than a sort of currency. I think this had a lot to do with Trump winning, because the GOP had collapsed its own credibility among its own voters due to that stupid war.

This is 100% my experience too.

No, neoconfederate child, it is the South which shit all over the Constitution.

I'm not even arguing with this point. They absolutely did. All the more reason to let them leave. Those 1860's resentments were never solved and we are literally STILL killing each other arguing over niggers. The South should have been allowed to secede and deal with their niggers and slavery on their own. Instead, niggers and racial resentment are the entire world's problem. Lincoln was a dictator who thought he knew better than the Constitution how to solve the problems of his day. He was a fool and we are still paying for his hubris today.

If Lincoln had let them secede, I fully believe their way of life would have been impossible to maintain and the Confederate states would have come crawling back to the US in 50 years.

This is where Trump is smart by toeing every legal line. They exist to discourage bad decisions like the ones I sperged about above.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

The GWOT taught me that the leaders of the GOP are soulless, cynical bastards who view the lives of young men in this country as nothing more than a sort of currency. I think this had a lot to do with Trump winning, because the GOP had collapsed its own credibility among its own voters due to that stupid war.

Don’t forget the Democrat role in this. Once Dubya’s administration revealed the lie of their patriotism and regime change in swept Obama on a tide of Hope and Change with a message he would draw down the GWoT, he would close down Guantanamo, he would end the Patriot Act and hold the Telecoms who colluded with the government accountable for sharing private data, he would prosecute the bankers and predatory lenders who fucked up the economy, and of course he would give use a new system of universal healthcare. And ultimately all we got from that was more drone bombing, bailouts, backdoor deals and extensions on previous surveillance, and a bastardized version of Romneycare.

 

[The Ugly One]

Don’t forget the Democrat role in this. Once Dubya’s administration revealed the lie of their patriotism and regime change in swept Obama on a tide of Hope and Change with a message he would draw down the GWoT, he would close down Guantanamo, he would end the Patriot Act and hold the Telecoms who colluded with the government accountable for sharing private data, he would prosecute the bankers and predatory lenders who fucked up the economy, and of course he would give use a new system of universal healthcare. And ultimately all we got from that was more drone bombing, bailouts, backdoor deals and extensions on previous surveillance, and a bastardized version of Romneycare.

The pathetic thing about Obama is that he could have done the liberal health care bullshit, but if he'd just given two shits about civil liberties instead of weaponizing the IRS and DOJ against half of America, the Democrats would be enjoying decades of virtually unchallenged rule.