💬 Off-Topic How did you first find out that trans people exist?

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vnisanian2001

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In 2004, I was watching an E! countdown of the 101 best kept Hollywood Secrets. One of the secrets was that one of the Bond girls in For Your Eyes Only used to be a man.
 
Listening to Loveline with Dr. Drew & Adam Carolla in the early 2000s as a teenager.
 
Wen I was a kid there was a tranny on my block. He lived in the same building as a friend of mine. My mom pointed out that this really tall "woman" in fancy clothes was actually a man.
 
I read a magazine article back in the 90s about a couple of trans women. Back then, it genuinely was a novelty. I miss those days.
 
Saw one when I was a kid doing something, I can't remember, in the city with my dad and my sister. Me and my sister started laughing and calling it a man woman. My dad was kind of embarrassed that people could hear us but he also didn't stop us from making fun of it and his only explanation to us when we asked why he was dressed like a woman was that he was fucked in the head.
 
Either watching Ace Ventura or reading an article in the TV magazine about an interview with a troon. I'm not sure which came first. I remember saying to my mum that the interview was sad, because the guy was saying things like "I always would rather do cooking and sewing than woodwork when I was at school", and my mum had always said that stereotypes are outdated and he shouldn't have had to change himself to enjoy doing those things. There's plenty of male chefs and tailors, after all.
Of course, this was before either of us knew about autogynephilia and what was likely really behind this guy's troonout, and we just took him at his word. They all say the same rehearsed shit about their childhood, because if kids are troons, then it can't be a sex thing, right?
 
An IRC friend trooning out. He is now happily has a thread here! :story:

Edit for heckin misgenderino!
 
My parents and I were walking through a Christmas Tree shop. As we're shopping, we keep noticing all these old, gross looking men wearing wedding dresses. We decide we probably don't want to shop there anymore and need to leave, but there's an inexhaustible number of these homos in the front of the store by the registers. As we leave, we notice there was actually a bus parked in front of the Christmas tree shop - they all took a trip together.

That led to a dinner conversation about the ontology of men who dress in women's clothing - since I was like 10 years old I don't envy my parents for having to explain it.
 
I found Alex Bertie's channel on Youtube in like 2013. I was going to link to it, but it seems like she deleted her channel. It was a British FTM who transitioned as a teenager and looked kinda like Justin Bieber. She made videos on her transition progress, "My voice x months on T"-type videos. She briefly dated another FTM Youtuber at one point too.
 
I found Alex Bertie's channel on Youtube in like 2013. I was going to link to it, but it seems like she deleted her channel. It was a British FTM who transitioned as a teenager and looked kinda like Justin Bieber. She made videos on her transition progress, "My voice x months on T"-type videos. She briefly dated another FTM Youtuber at one point too.
Oh yeah, I remember her being interviewed on Newsnight or The South Bank Show or some other evening current affairs thing. It was a lot of "I was bullied for being a lesbian, but now I'm a straight man everything is hunky dory".
 
My real first encounter with a troon was when I was about five. This would've been 1978, the height of the serial killer scene. My family was living in a shitty apartment in Inglewood, CA. There was a knock on the screendoor door and it was what I saw as the biggest woman I'd ever seen, selling makeup. My mom, for some reason, let him in. She realized immediately that she'd made a mistake and called to the bedroom for my dad to come out and see what was for sale (he wasn't actually home-- she was bluffing). The troon dropped the act immediately, sprinted out of the room, and I can still picture him lumbering down the stairs in a wig and dress, hair smashed under the black stockings. Who knows what the freak was planning.

My next encounter with a troon was when I worked with one in 1995, in an office. His name was Desirée. About as convincing as one of those Monty Python guys in drag. The guy seemed so uncomfortable, I actually felt bad for him. Back then, you had to basically be a public transvestite for some period of time before you could have a hope of getting the surgery. I didn't speak to him apart from what I needed to say for my work, but he was chatty with a girl I knew there, and she told me he considered himself a "lesbian", which left me scratching my head.

I moved to Long Beach, CA, not long after, and encountered a couple of other troons through social networks. Again, never spoke to them, but was made aware that they were both, what do you know, "lesbians". That was maybe 2006... after that, I assumed they were all coomer perverts, which made the explosion of trooning after 2014 or so even more annoying. I'd had my "generous interpretation" phase a decade previous, so hearing the naive praise for these Silence of the Lambs freaks was pretty tough to listen to.
 
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I worked with one in 1995, in an office. His name was Desirée. About as convincing as one of those Monty Python guys in drag. The guy seemed so uncomfortable, I actually felt bad for him. Back then, you had to basically be a public transvestite for some period of time before you could have a hope of getting the surgery. I didn't speak to him apart from what I needed to say for my work, but he was chatty with a girl I knew there, and she told me he considered himself a "lesbian", which left me scratching my head.

I moved to Long Beach, CA, not long after, and encountered a couple of other troons through social networks. Again, never spoke to them, but was made aware that they were both, what do you know, "lesbians". That was maybe 2006... after that, I assumed they were all coomer perverts, which made the explosion of trooning after 2014 or so even more annoying. I'd had my "generous interpretation" phase a decade previous, so hearing the naive praise for these Silence of the Lambs freaks was pretty tough to listen to.

Oh actually... it just occurred to me that my real first encounter with a troon was when I was about five. This would've been 1978. My family was living in a shitty apartment in Inglewood, CA. There was a knock on the door and it was what I saw as the biggest woman I'd ever seen, selling makeup. My mom, for some reason, let him in. She realized immediately that she'd made a mistake and called to the bedroom for my dad to come out and see what was for sale (he wasn't actually home-- she was bluffing). The troon dropped the act immediately, sprinted out of the room, and I can still picture him lumbering down the stairs in a wig and dress, hair smashed under the black stockings. Who knows what the freak was planning.
Shit, good thinking from your mum. Glad you were both safe.
 
Well i knew of transvestites and drag queens since sometime in the 80's, they used to be a staple in comedies, the concept of trans people as a fragile group that "were born in the wrong body" and will kill themseves if you point and laugh didn't surface as an idea until the late 90's.
 
I think the first real exposure to a trans person was a tv documentary I watched on porn and Buck Angel was featured in it, but I'd been exposed to the parody type of tranny like in Ace Ventura and other American media. I was vaguely aware of Lili Elbe because of his country of origin but I couldn't tell you when exactly I'd learned about him.
Maybe I was around 16-17 ish. I genuinely miss being unaware of trannies. "Finkle is Einhorn" sure, but it was still a woman playing a woman (even if her name is Sean Young) and it always just looked like she was wearing a diaper to me.

Thankfully I have never met an actual tranny IRL. I discount "queer" they/them's and transtrenders because claiming a male name and he/him pronouns doesn't mean you're a true tranny, it just means you're retarded (though I guess that's the same thing)
 
I worked with one who had fully transitioned in the early 90s. Thought she was kind of ugly and had a weird voice, but she didn't wear it on her sleeve like an identity. There was another fully-transitioned on IRC and I had no idea. Thought she was just your standard fat-and-ugly.

It's not trans if it's not transitional. It's a lifestyle.
 
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