Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

Yeah, Rangi42 is an absolute tranny, using a Glaceon with librarian glasses as an avatar while being the single most prolific contributor to something as autistic as the Pokémon Crystal disassembly.

Polished Crystal is a better hack than Crystal Clear, but you have to be prepared for the type of person to get involved with such projects.

I actually know a lot abou the project and am familiar with Rangi42. The only thing that surprised me is the wokeness and transgenderism.
I actually a times considered basing my Scarlet and Violet demake on Polished Crystal, mainly because of the 9-bit and 10-bit indices, but, not only is the project being under frequent change, but I prefer that sweet Super Game Boy and MSU-1 suppor that I can only get from pokegold. My lack of Assembly knowledge would probably mean that I would just stick wi the 253 slots I can have instead of trying to port a bleeding edge 9-bit solution from t heavily-edited Polished Crystal.

 

[Wafting Breeze]

Free Genius Sonority from puzzle game prison!

I have a lot of nostalgia for the GC games but they're pretty awful to return to. They have some great ideas executed poorly. The core feature being double battles is great. The linearity and low roster appeals to me as a fan of Fire Emblem if that makes any sense. But the balance of both games sucks and the visuals are sludge. How the games implemented catching is a chore and so is purifying. They're just not very fun to go back to.
The best case scenario for newer Pokemon is to bring MonolithSoft, Bandai Namco, or Koei Tecmo in for technical assistance. If the Switch era was any indication the best way to get Nintendo franchises roaring again is by handing the technical legwork to someone else while the in-house team works primarily on content and systems design. It worked for Zelda, Super Smash Bros, and especially Fire Emblem.

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

I have a lot of nostalgia for the GC games but they're pretty awful to return to. They have some great ideas executed poorly. The core feature being double battles is great. The linearity and low roster appeals to me as a fan of Fire Emblem if that makes any sense. But the balance of both games sucks and the visuals are sludge. How the games implemented catching is a chore and so is purifying. They're just not very fun to go back to.
The best case scenario for newer Pokemon is to bring MonolithSoft, Bandai Namco, or Koei Tecmo in for technical assistance. If the Switch era was any indication the best way to get Nintendo franchises roaring again is by handing the technical legwork to someone else while the in-house team works primarily on content and systems design. It worked for Zelda, Super Smash Bros, and especially Fire Emblem.

Thankfully, a recent hack gave a boost o Pokémon XD.

https://www.pokecommunity.com/threads/pok%C3%A9mon-xd-dx-directors-cut.538680/

 

[I mean I'm just saying]

I have a lot of nostalgia for the GC games but they're pretty awful to return to.

Thankfully, a recent hack gave a boost o Pokémon XD.

I actually agree, I played XG a year or so ago and it was decent fun, but it really barely passed the threshold of good such that I know I'd be miserable with vanilla XD.
I saw this XD Director's cut release but I haven't read the description until now. I hope it's good but personally I tend to prefer mods like XG that don't massively change the Pokemon like I see in the starters here.

 

[anliteralidiot]

So, people have figured out how to make 6 alphas appear in Area 20 in ZA.

Spoiler: Written guide

1. Use centrico pokemon center, above area 20. This sets your spawn point.
2. Go to area 20 from there.
3. Bait alpha pokemon to around the bridge zone.
4. Sprint to exit, leave, save, and exit the game entirely.
5. Boot game back up, find alphas at bridge point.
6. Bait to the exit.
7. Leave zone, manual save, exit game again.
8. Boot game, confirm they're at the exit, and run ~55m away.
9. Manual save, exit game.
10. Boot game, run back. They should be at the exit gate still.
11. Run further in, find 2 more alphas at original spawn point.
12. Repeat steps 1-10 for next 4 alphas.
13. When you get to 6, let them KO you, so you black out and go back to the centrico pokemon center.
14. Run back to area 20, where there are now 6 alphas in the original spawn point.
15. Use bench to afk hunt.

and fyi, you can leave and come back if you have this set up, and don't want to afk farm right that moment

 

[Midnight Cooking]

I mentioned this a few times, but Pokémon Polished Crystal is a massive improvement hack of Pokémon Crystal that managed to break the 'under 256' barrier that 8-bit indices required. Currently, 9-bit indices allow 509 Pokémon while there is work on 10-bit indices that would allow 1023 moves.
The problem comes from Blanche, one of the trainers, using 'They/Them' instead of 'He/Him'.

https://github.com/Rangi42/polishedcrystal/commit/7ca5d39db09743884c041df1b25f6fc92d390e59

https://archive.ph/a1cZp

Looking more, there is also a 'non-binary' protagonist called 'Crys'.
Of course, I would need to do a bit of dewoking.

Spoiler: How to dewoke

In CeladonUniversityClassroom2.asm on 43, change "They only teach" to "He only teaches".
In RocketHideoutB1F.asm on 83, change "They decides where" to "He decides where".
Optional: In common.asm on 2731, change "Which photo is on" and "your Trainer Card?" to "Are you a boy?" and "Or are you a girl?"

Don't forget the lesbian in Silph Co.

I don't know if there are many more instances of this. I lost interest in the hack when I discovered how linear they made Kanto.

 

[Retarded Weeb]

I have a lot of nostalgia for the GC games but they're pretty awful to return to. They have some great ideas executed poorly. The core feature being double battles is great. The linearity and low roster appeals to me as a fan of Fire Emblem if that makes any sense. But the balance of both games sucks and the visuals are sludge. How the games implemented catching is a chore and so is purifying. They're just not very fun to go back to.

Disagree. The balancing in Colosseum is scuffed up since there's so many Pokemon are close to unusably bad especially compared to the 3 legendaries you can catch, but it's a smooth experience that doesn't last too long and is whose battle system is more fun to engage with than most mainline games. I don't really see any major balance issues with XD at all. The only issue I have with that game is that it spams way too many Shadow Pokemon at you late-game, making it a chore if you want to catch them all for 100% completion.
And yeah, catching Shadow Pokemon sucks, but let's be real here: Catching Pokemon has always sucked in the mainline games. It's all luck. The only strategy you can use is the same for every Pokemon: get them down low with probably False Swipe, maybe paralyze or sleep them, and then throw Poke Balls until the game arbitrary decided it worked. The only thing making any Pokemon "harder" to catch than another is how likely you are to waste a dozen turns throwing balls that randomly fail to catch. The only game where catching is any fun is PLA (and Z-A?), so there's nothing about Colosseum or XD that's any worse except for the enemy's other Pokemon getting in your way, which isn't really that big a deal, the main annoyance is the luck which was inherited from the mainline games.

 

[Tate McRae]

That seems to be the recurring bit with Pokemon - at their core, the games are still Fun, which at this point is all I ask of my escapism, but it’s unfortunately tinged with “Goddamn they could do so much better”.

Be it performance issues, poor designs, or just an assortment of petty shit, Pokémon has fallen deeper and deeper into “It’s Fun, but it could be so much better.” And I doubt a Sonic Mania-esque “Pokemon game made by the fans” would be much better, considering how for every gem of a romhack there’s an ocean of 3edgey5u trash you have to sift through…

They still are fun, and really my only complaints for Z-A are that you cannot trade with random people online like you are able to in Scarlet/Violet or Sun/Moon because you need to have a code now, the fact that the background NPCs just stand around, or that the game spoils itself (either if you play online against someone who already has the black Floette or you just deduce which Mega Pokemon is missing in the numerically-ordered Mega Evolution Pokedex between Mega Starmie and Mega Pyroar - it's clearly AZ's black Floette).

Wew. That's more time in just a few weeks than I've put into Sword and Violet combined. And I started playing them back at the start of the year.

I didn't like Scarlet/Violet, save for the DLC, and I, unfortunately, never got a chance to play Sword/Shield, but most of my time spent in the game was just doing the main and side quests and just running around looking for Canari dolls and trying to complete the Pokedex, which I cannot do because the only three remaining Pokemon I need are Scizor, Slurpuff, and Aromatisse, which I can only do if I trade with someone who has them, which doesn't really make sense since you can get Steelix in the game, along with plenty of other trade-evolving Pokemon (and I don't know anyone who even has this game IRL to trade with them for the three remaining Pokemon)! I do think that this game is waaaaaay better than Scarlet, which is like the typical mainline Pokemon game in that you can complete the Gym Leader Challenge and Elite Four in 18-24 hours. I think that Scarlet/Violet would have really benefited if all of the cities in it were as big as Lumiose is in Z-A.

So, people have figured out how to make 6 alphas appear in Area 20 in ZA.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wpKpsWk2kq4

Spoiler: Written guide

1. Use centrico pokemon center, above area 20. This sets your spawn point.
2. Go to area 20 from there.
3. Bait alpha pokemon to around the bridge zone.View attachment 8117219
4. Sprint to exit, leave, save, and exit the game entirely.
5. Boot game back up, find alphas at bridge point.
6. Bait to the exit.
7. Leave zone, manual save, exit game again.
8. Boot game, confirm they're at the exit, and run ~55m away.
9. Manual save, exit game.
10. Boot game, run back. They should be at the exit gate still.
11. Run further in, find 2 more alphas at original spawn point.
12. Repeat steps 1-10 for next 4 alphas.
13. When you get to 6, let them KO you, so you black out and go back to the centrico pokemon center.
14. Run back to area 20, where there are now 6 alphas in the original spawn point.
15. Use bench to afk hunt.

and fyi, you can leave and come back if you have this set up, and don't want to afk farm right that moment

I've been doing something similar, where I just run inside Area 20, check which 2 Alphas are in the center under the tower, exit, run around and enter in the next gate, and run back to the center to see which 2 Alphas are there now since they change whenever you exit and enter.

 

[anliteralidiot]

unfortunately, never got a chance to play Sword/Shield,

No, this is good. They suck.

which I cannot do because the only three remaining Pokemon I need are Scizor, Slurpuff, and Aromatisse, which I can only do if I trade with someone who has them,

I posted this a week ago, and I'll bet people are still using these codes:

Oh, and the YouTuber AustinJohnPlays set up some link trade codes, specifically for people looking to finish the pokedex. You use it to match up with others trading for specific mons:

• Kadabra 0063 0063
• Haunter 0066 0066
• Phantump 0182 0182
• Pumpkaboo 0204 0204
• Machoke 0126 0126
• Onix (metal coat) 0197 0197
• Scyther (metal coat) 0176 0176
• Slowpoke (kings rock) 0137 0137
• Spritzee (satchet) 0096 0096
• Swirlix (whipped dream) 0098 0098

Just put up the marching Pokemon (and item) for trade, and you're all good.

I've been doing something similar, where I just run inside Area 20, check which 2 Alphas are in the center under the tower, exit, run around and enter in the next gate, and run back to the center to see which 2 Alphas are there now since they change whenever you exit and enter.

It's a lot faster to just sit at the bench, and spend time until day/night. Less running.

 

[Tate McRae]

Has anyone else noticed how many lewd Z-A Royale profile pictures there are when playing with random people online? It's either always the bended-over-with-hands-on-knees pose in front of an NPC either made to look like the player character is taking it in the ass or giving head to the NPC, or the player character posing with an NPC's butt.

 

[Computer Guardian]

Only one developer can save us. Not Game Freak, not the fans...
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Free Genius Sonority from puzzle game prison!

Right now they're currently busy with thier own Free-To-Play Denpa Men game as far as non pokemon spin offs go.... so if you were a Denpa Man fan, i guess you'd be more content than what's going on with GF's output.

 

[Computer God Autism]

Disagree. The balancing in Colosseum is scuffed up since there's so many Pokemon are close to unusably bad especially compared to the 3 legendaries you can catch, but it's a smooth experience that doesn't last too long and is whose battle system is more fun to engage with than most mainline games. I don't really see any major balance issues with XD at all.

The janky and unbalanced parts of Colosseum and XD - and all older Pokemon games - is part of the charm. The main thing is whether you have fun. I went back to replay Colosseum in 2019 and had more fun with it than USUM.

 

[Disc]

That seems to be the recurring bit with Pokemon - at their core, the games are still Fun, which at this point is all I ask of my escapism, but it’s unfortunately tinged with “Goddamn they could do so much better”.

Be it performance issues, poor designs, or just an assortment of petty shit, Pokémon has fallen deeper and deeper into “It’s Fun, but it could be so much better.” And I doubt a Sonic Mania-esque “Pokemon game made by the fans” would be much better, considering how for every gem of a romhack there’s an ocean of 3edgey5u trash you have to sift through…

Putting in a petition to change the subtitle of the thread to "The Worst Mon Games, except for all the other ones." because I think that's a perfectly evergreen description of Pokemon at the moment.

The only competitor is Time Stranger, and I am currently softlocked in a lategame room of Chill Cosmic with a bunch of penmon and have been for a month. I'm not exactly feeling charitable there.

The janky and unbalanced parts of Colosseum and XD - and all older Pokemon games - is part of the charm. The main thing is whether you have fun. I went back to replay Colosseum in 2019 and had more fun with it than USUM.

Speaking of, has anyone played Pokemon XD DX?

 

[Retarded Weeb]

Has anyone else noticed how many lewd Z-A Royale profile pictures there are when playing with random people online? It's either always the bended-over-with-hands-on-knees pose in front of an NPC either made to look like the player character is taking it in the ass or giving head to the NPC, or the player character posing with an NPC's butt.

Nothing new there. People were doing similar stuff with that photo shoot thing in Gen 7 and picking all the self-introductions answers in the Festival Plaza like "I like riding my Pokemon all day" that make it sound like you fuck your Pokemon if you have a dirty mind.

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

Putting in a petition to change the subtitle of the thread to "The Worst Mon Games, except for all the other ones." because I think that's a perfectly evergreen description of Pokemon at the moment.

[Ratatosk laugh]

Speaking of, has anyone played Pokemon XD DX?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=LfVw7j1Xs9I

I posted this link the previous page.

Nothing new there. People were doing similar stuff with that photo shoot thing in Gen 7 and picking all the self-introductions answers in the Festival Plaza like "I like riding my Pokemon all day" that make it sound like you fuck your Pokemon if you have a dirty mind.
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This wa since Gen 4. People made ball capsules that spelt slurs and Squicky things.

Spoiler: Gross

https://www.furaffinity.net/view/43316182/

 

[ToroidalBoat]

...oh dear.

Looks like the SMD issue on my end is a soldering thing based on one of the vids.

 

[Wafting Breeze]

Disagree. The balancing in Colosseum is scuffed up since there's so many Pokemon are close to unusably bad especially compared to the 3 legendaries you can catch, but it's a smooth experience that doesn't last too long and is whose battle system is more fun to engage with than most mainline games. I don't really see any major balance issues with XD at all. The only issue I have with that game is that it spams way too many Shadow Pokemon at you late-game, making it a chore if you want to catch them all for 100% completion.
And yeah, catching Shadow Pokemon sucks, but let's be real here: Catching Pokemon has always sucked in the mainline games. It's all luck. The only strategy you can use is the same for every Pokemon: get them down low with probably False Swipe, maybe paralyze or sleep them, and then throw Poke Balls until the game arbitrary decided it worked. The only thing making any Pokemon "harder" to catch than another is how likely you are to waste a dozen turns throwing balls that randomly fail to catch. The only game where catching is any fun is PLA (and Z-A?), so there's nothing about Colosseum or XD that's any worse except for the enemy's other Pokemon getting in your way, which isn't really that big a deal, the main annoyance is the luck which was inherited from the mainline games.

The fundamental issue with catching in Colosseum is the ability of every shadow pokemon to suicide with recoil. There's also the annoyance of making it feel like snags are mandatory. If you miss your first chance to snag a mon from a mandatory trainer it's gone until the post game. In the main series you can run into the tall grass and catch whatever you want whenever you want. It's very rare you can miss something if you're just trying to progress through the game. The catching mechanics aren't interesting enough to be made mandatory in such a strict way. It's a new annoyance every time you progress up to a new snag trainer.
PLA and PLZA had non-standard catching mechanics because the rewards for catching were different than the core series. You're supposed to catch as many pokemon as possible as often as possible to complete research quests. So instead of making the catching mechanics the same as the core series they're more lenient on rates and have you aim and throw the ball yourself. For Colosseum and XD there should have been non-standard ways to increase catch rates based on the theme of rehabilitating shadow pokemon. Like a command to call its name using one of your mon's turns to increase its catch rate after a minigame or something (like a sliding bar timer like in Shadow Hearts or timed button presses like in Paper Mario for example) while the other turn is spent throwing the ball. Genius Sonority had never developed a Pokemon game and it showed since they ported systems over without really considering what could be added to make them not suck. Game Freak's later games have made concessions or have skewed design in a way that makes it clear they're aware how much catching sucks.

 

[Rinyuu is my EX]

...oh dear.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=YZiH1eH3DcYhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=tEH-veTgDeY

I could be wrong, but the only guy who actually looked into the 3DS defects was this guy.
He basically fixed a copy of Omega Ruby and called all these articles and YouTubers “fear mongering faggots”… I am paraphrasing but you get the idea.
The problem???

1. This video is a dogshit. He barely explained what the fuck he was doing, never explained what tools he was using and he was zooming the fuck in… so even if you tried to figure it out, you cannot because you can only see his fingers and the cartridge.
2. He promised a more detailed video but he never delivered and it looks like he fucked off for good. The sad thing? He did make a video about the Wii U frimware error and this time it was clear cut perfectly made. Buy this chip, download this software, do these steps.. done!! So i honestly don’t understand why he dropped the ball on the 3DS.

Edit: right after I posted, I immediately figured “let’s check if he got Xitter account or something “ … and well .. shit … no wonder

 

[Tate McRae]

I could be wrong, but the only guy who actually looked into the 3DS defects was this guy.
He basically fixed a copy of Omega Ruby and called all these articles and YouTubers “fear mongering faggots”… I am paraphrasing but you get the idea.
The problem???

1. This video is a dogshit. He barely explained what the fuck he was doing, never explained what tools he was using and he was zooming the fuck in… so even if you tried to figure it out, you cannot because you can only see his fingers and the cartridge.
2. He promised a more detailed video but he never delivered and it looks like he fucked off for good. The sad thing? He did make a video about the Wii U frimware error and this time it was clear cut perfectly made. Buy this chip, download this software, do these steps.. done!! So i honestly don’t understand why he dropped the ball on the 3DS.

Edit: right after I posted, I immediately figured “let’s check if he got Xitter account or something “ … and well .. shit … no wonder

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I will always look back at my time with the 3DS as quite literally the best gaming moment of my life. Nothing compares to the Pokemon games on the 3DS and the online experience, as well as Animal Crossing and StreetPass (!!!), the Zelda re-releases, Harvest Moon, along with Xenoblade and SMT. Even the 2DS was an incredible system, down to the neoprene case for it. The best Nintendo had to offer was during the 3DS years! Oh yes, also Pilot Wings for the 3DS!!!!

 

[ToroidalBoat]

How can the Porygon 'mons have a weight if they're 3DCG somehow existing outside of simulation?