Todd In The Shadows

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Is Todd In The Shadows a lolcow?

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Samuel Fuller said:
Isn't Tard one of the idiots who push the idiotic theory that the death of disco was driven by homophobia, too?
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A lot of people believe in this. The woketards have rewritten history to push the belief that the backlash against disco was driven by racism and homophobia due to disco being popular among blacks and gays. In a sense, you could cite real instances of actual racial backlash against disco -- such as the infamous Twisted Sister incident with an effigy of Marvin Gaye -- but to say all of the backlash was racist/homophobic is just misleading.

The incident I'm referring to was in (I believe) the late 1970's at an early Twisted Sister show when they were a small bar band that performed at local gigs in front of small audiences. They apparently made an effigy of Marvin Gaye and mock-hanged him with a noose, and people in the audience were chanting, "Kill the nigger!". I believe that's how the story goes. But again, that single instance alone doesn't mean that every single person who was sick of disco by 1980 only hated the genre purely out of hating gays and blacks. Face it: it was a fad genre of music, it wore out its welcome, and the public ditched it.

Todd always brings up the infamous Disco Demolition Night where people destroyed disco albums at a sports game. If there's any conclusive and credible evidence that the shock jock who organized it and the people who participated in it were motivated by hating blacks and gays, then I'd like to see it.
 
Michael Jacks0n said:
If there's any conclusive and credible evidence that the shock jock who organized it and the people who participated in it were motivated by hating blacks and gays, then I'd like to see it.
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Todd and his ilk in that sphere all believe that anybody born before them were only ever motivated by hating blacks and gays. The proof is their circular reasoning that past people were all less enlightened.
 
Michael Jacks0n said:
A lot of people believe in this. The woketards have rewritten history to push the belief that the backlash against disco was driven by racism and homophobia due to disco being popular among blacks and gays. In a sense, you could cite real instances of actual racial backlash against disco -- such as the infamous Twisted Sister incident with an effigy of Marvin Gaye -- but to say all of the backlash was racist/homophobic is just misleading.

The incident I'm referring to was in (I believe) the late 1970's at an early Twisted Sister show when they were a small bar band that performed at local gigs in front of small audiences. They apparently made an effigy of Marvin Gaye and mock-hanged him with a noose, and people in the audience were chanting, "Kill the nigger!". I believe that's how the story goes. But again, that single instance alone doesn't mean that every single person who was sick of disco by 1980 only hated the genre purely out of hating gays and blacks. Face it: it was a fad genre of music, it wore out its welcome, and the public ditched it.

Todd always brings up the infamous Disco Demolition Night where people destroyed disco albums at a sports game. If there's any conclusive and credible evidence that the shock jock who organized it and the people who participated in it were motivated by hating blacks and gays, then I'd like to see it.
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Being old enough to have lived through the Disco era as a kid, people were just fucking sick of the music. Nobody identified disco with gays, as gays were still not in the public conciousness, even flamer celebrities like Liberace and Paul Linde were in the closet when the disco backlash hit.

Disco Demolition Night happened at a Chicago White Sox game when the team was in a losing skid, and it was during the 7th inning stretch of a blowout loss for the Sox. The crowd was drunk and pissed off even before the stunt, so the show just lit an already primed powder keg.
 
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toilet_rainbow said:
Todd is confused why there are political commentary songs on the album because, according to him, nothing big or serious happened in the US/West in 1985. Being constantly afraid of getting nuked by the Soviets due to tense relations "doesn't count." Therefore, the 80s didn't need political songs because the decade was so boring compared to the 70s or 90s. The comments are full of people dunking on him by name dropping events.
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I have to believe this is a joke, considering that anyone who knows anything about music, let alone as much as Todd claims, is that 1985 was the year of Live Aid and We Are The World. Todd even made a video about We Are The World made for the earthquake in Haiti in 2010, including talking about how charity singles don't have the best reputation.
 
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John Hunger said:
Does this fucking retard think Taylor Swift needs momentum to have one of the biggest album debuts of all-time?

She's Taylor Swift.
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I half agree with you and half agree with Todd.

She is only Taylor Swift™ because her career has maintained some level of momentum throughout, which is an impressive feat. Even when a non-fan might have assumed she plateaued she was always relevant or in the public eye one way or another, often positively (or for things most would be neutral about). From her beef with Kanye to her long list of ex-lovers to her having runaway hits that went beyond her core fanbase, which is already sizable.

But I think TPD was thrown into pop culture as a Manufactured Moment following The Eras Tour (a genuine moment) and it faltered with everyone except her core base. After getting beaten over the head about how amazing and talented Taylor Swift was, she produced one of the most lackluster records I've heard even by today's standards. However, she had already experienced a 'blimp' and shone brighter post it (Reputation), so I think people were willing to give her the benefit of the doubt going into Showgirl.

I see where Todd's coming from in being surprised she's breaking any records with the songs on this latest album, but I people still have faith in her musically. It's a bit like the run Marvel had for a while: most people going into a Taylor Swift album know what they want and what to expect, and if she manages to give that to them, they're happy and she gets to make the big bucks.

All she needed to do to pivot after Reputation and recover was to switch things up visually. I think she's doing that again, if the streams are anything to go by. But there's also a bit of a feeling of vultures gathering and trying to gauge whether this might be the start of the end of her dominance in pop.

It likely isn't, considering most other candidates are directly connected to her own star in some way or another, and her fans are still K-Pop levels of rabid when Taylor's involved. But I think the logic Todd is following dictates that this theoretically should have gone worse unless her output was better or drastically different, which it wasn't. That logic falls apart in a world (ours) where Taylor Swift is Taylor Swift and her Swifties are who they are.
 
Introvertigo said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6rAR07DCN4Y
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Taylor is writing about her fiancé because he's the first non-artsy guy with actual manliness she's ever dated and she loves it and well, Todd wouldn't know anything about that, I'm afraid. Please remember that in his friend group, HE'S the manly one. Yeah. Glad he found a little spark to stave off the burnout though. Notable that there were no co-writers listed on this episode.

But goddamn, that Nebula ad at the end was so self-aggrandizing (we went to college! we're brilliant and weird and interesting!) it would have actually been less masturbatory had he whipped his dick out and jacked off on his keyboard...in profile and silhouette, of course.
 
Ninon42 said:
Glad he found a little spark to stave off the burnout though. Notable that there were no co-writers listed on this episode
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Random Internet Person said:
Todd was really fired up when he heard the album. I feel like he went right to work on this one after he finished listening.
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Taylor might be the last, long running act that Todd will react to genuinely. There used to be Ke$ha, Lady Gaga, Jason DeRulo, and Katy Perry, people who he always had something to say about their output. But they've all fallen off.
 
S@credC said:
Taylor might be the last, long running act that Todd will react to genuinely. There used to be Ke$ha, Lady Gaga, Jason DeRulo, and Katy Perry, people who he always had something to say about their output. But they've all fallen off.
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Don't forget Maroon 5! They fell off too, unfortunately. I miss when he used to put a song by them on the worst list just because it was "The Maroon 5 Spot."
 
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