Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[The Nothingness]

I checked out five minutes of the first episode during my lunch break. Best joke so far is Vox saying, "Eww," to Katie's advances.

Boy, a lot of you tolerated these episodes more than me. The second one was the least worst since it didn't include the main cast. The propping up of Lilith is making her just as much of a Mary Sue as Charlie.

 

[Re(Runner)48]

She is neirher fat, bald and ugly enough to be female Dobson, nor made a story about lesbian vaccine and vicious murdering of the people that told her to make a character out of Millie... Yet.
I want to believe she used crayola model magic to craft a stolas the fagowl dildo and she constantly wear it up her ugly cunt.

Are you blind? She is fat and she isnt exactly stunning, she looks very simular to a Andrew Dobson and Chris Chan if she was a guy.

 

[A Grey Cat]

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This old watchmen quote never let's me down.


In demand...by an abattoir full of retarded (man/woman) children.

 

[Sasmate]

I said I wouldn’t but I just hate watched the two episodes.

I don’t want to sound like a grandpa but why did vivziepop decide that heaven should have just as much vulgar swearing as hell? It just feels like a reskinned hell when I hear Adam, the first man, or a literal seraphim say “fuck” every 10 seconds.
Also it seems like a lot of these angels and “winners” can be just as childish, hateful, vengeful, toxic toward each other etc. as hell’s residents are.

Yet another reason to hate this retarded tumblr slop

 

[Gondolindrim]

Not a bad first episode. It's good that they got the elephant in the room addressed early that most sinners just want to kill shit. The "I killed my wife" reporter gag went on wayyyy too long and I have le scary face fatigue from Vox already.

 

[Sasmate]

Why did the reporter guy keep talking about killing his wife if they're in hell? Does this imply he has an angelic weapon?

Anyway, Lute is best character but Pen and Emily are good too. Did Lute fall in love with Adam, I didn't know that was canon? Also they depicted Valentino hitting Angel Dust with a yaoi paddle accompanied with a goofy sound effect lmaooo oh Vivz

There is absolutely no one likable or “best” in this show’s history except the new bird angel thing, and sir pentious. Mostly because they both are written to be humble/decent (possibly by accident), and don’t cuss every two seconds. The bird angel is probably gonna turn out to be this shows definition of evil, I tell you what.

everybody else (both heaven AND hell) is either

-a psycho/sociopathic edgelord douche that’s legit depraved (Adam, Lute, Alastor, Vox, and a A LOT more probably)
-a gooner/oversexualized stereotype (Angel dust, news reporter, Mexican moth nigga)
-a toxic positivity token character (Charlie, Emily)
-a predictable Mary sue (Charlie)
- incredibly boring/predictable to watch (Lucifer, Vaggie, the Aussie cyclops chick, St. Peter, Adam’s son)
-a “harmless” person but still a prick to others in some way (All the angels except seraphim and bird thing)

I guess Husk ain’t all bad partly cause Keith David, partly cause he isn’t all about fucking or being edgey constantly. He just seems like a defeatist asshole in general.

 

[InJailOutSoon]

You know, I completely forgot that there were 6 other angels that helped Sera raise the barrier over Heaven until someone else reminded me. And I probably forgot their existence because there literally npcs. This the only scene I think I've seen these 6 angels in the entire show. Are they the angels that were silhouetted in Lucifer's fall? They don't really look like them. Are these the other seraphims? If so, why weren't they at the meeting when Sera was deciding on what Heaven should do next? Why are Abel and Peter there who are fucking useless? Are these angels going to be of any importance to this damn story or will they just remained background art?

It's so frustrating because it really feels like Viv doesn't care about the Heaven side of this show and is speeding through shit so she can get back to Hell. And the only reason why Heaven is as involved in this story as it is, is so that the plot in Hell can move along.

 

[MsStealYaMan]

Vivian or someone in the writer’s room must’ve actually listened to the criticisms of her show. I felt the pacing wasn’t nearly as dreadful as the first season.
Maybe I’m just used to it by now, but the swearing didn’t pull me out of most of the scenes either, except when Lute was throwing them around in front of the Speaker: on one hand, it’s in-character for Lute to act that way, but on the other hand—the Speaker probably is the closest this show will ever have to a God—so that behaviour is extremely tactless.. kind of surprised no one scolded her for it.

The losers in the Hotel are really starting to just annoy me. Why do I have this feeling that they’re just going to go through a repeat of their trauma until the season ends? (because Viv doesn’t seem to know how to make her characters move on in a healthy, adult way? See Helluva Boss).
Nifty seems like she’s the only tolerable one. She’s a one-note chaos gremlin; it’d be difficult to screw that up,

He was only in that episode for a few seconds and I’m already sick to death of Alastor’s 2edgy4u shit. I’m assuming that he will be shoved in every episode because he’s basically the most popular character in the franchise (the pilot version, strictly speaking; Edward Bosco’s performance made that character!) and more importantly, sells the most merch!

Charlie and Vaggie are still about as interested to watch as watching paint dry. Vaggie wanting a new name after all this time is stupid. Unfortunately neither of them are going to receive any character development; as it is blatantly obvious that they are Vivian’s self-inserts.

The Vees are at least different. Vox could be really interesting,, but I wouldn’t get my hopes up. I haven’t been too fond of any of Spindlehorse’s writing staff. I also don’t look forward to anything relating to Valentino (it’s weird that he is given a pass in-universe and out for being’’’sexy’’’, despite being the most morally deplorable). Velvette is just.. there. Like most of Vivian’s other female characters.

Gravity and Charlie’s song were really the only ones that stood out to me.. I didn’t feel like Emily/St. Peter/Abel’s singing voices really meshed together too well.

I thought it was.. ok. It was just two episodes, though. So it could change easily into being unwatchable garbage,

 

[Fiwi Karmer 69420]

sorry if this is shitting up the thread but I made some memes of the first 2 episodes that I thought were slightly funnier than the actual episodes.

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

Season 5 of steven universe happened because rachele glucose was too busy making up shitty filler episodes about lars and watermelon stevens to flesh out the stuff that really matter. By the time warner bros decided that season 5 was gonna be the last, renata C6H12O6 bad no screen time left to do what the series needed and delivered an half assed season that made no fucking sense and still featured those fucking watermelon stevens.

We could discuss how those that forget history are damned to repeat it, but let's get real: unlike steven universe, neither of viv series have enough foundation to stand,

Lmao, your substitute names for Ribkah Sucralose were... amusing, so to speak.

Also it seems like a lot of these angels and “winners” can be just as childish, hateful, vengeful, toxic toward each other etc. as hell’s residents are.

NOW YOU GET THE NIHILIST PILL, MAAAAAAN!!! Nothing matters dude, heaven and hell are just illusions to keep you trapped, duuuuudeeee.

You know, I completely forgot that there were 6 other angels that helped Sera raise the barrier over Heaven until someone else reminded me. And I probably forgot their existence because there literally npcs. This the only scene I think I've seen these 6 angels in the entire show. Are they the angels that were silhouetted in Lucifer's fall? They don't really look like them. Are these the other seraphims? If so, why weren't they at the meeting when Sera was deciding on what Heaven should do next? Why are Abel and Peter there who are fucking useless? Are these angels going to be of any importance to this damn story or will they just remained background art?

It's so frustrating because it really feels like Viv doesn't care about the Heaven side of this show and is speeding through shit so she can get back to Hell. And the only reason why Heaven is as involved in this story as it is, is so that the plot in Hell can move along.

Why is Abel even hanging with Peter? Shouldn't Peter be with his family and friends that he knew in Galilee, or the converts he made through the Christian communities in Babylon and Rome? To play an advocate, there was enough time to meet others in Heaven and meet other biblical figures. Yet what stops Peter from befriending, say, Noah? Or the Eber? advancing time a bit, Joshua, Othniel, Ehud... so on?

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sorry if this is shitting up the thread but I made some memes of the first 2 episodes that I thought were slightly funnier than the actual episodes.

LoL, did Charlotte do a turn around like SpongeBob?

 

[Vernors Vendor]

Was this mentioned yet?

Spoiler: Baxter

Spoiler: meme tax

Why do they look like that

 

[Beggamania]

Gawd dayumn, dude...

 

[Sonya-chan]

This show is tone deaf.

https://x.com/VividNyx/status/1983442749912428583

Spoiler: (And yes, this is a "yaoi paddle")

Bonus:

 

[Beggamania]

This show is tonedeaf.

https://x.com/VividNyx/status/1983442749912428583

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Spoiler: (And yes, this is a "yaoi paddle")

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Whilst I have to admit it was funny gag, the show clearlt doesn't know what it wants sometimes, torn between seriousness and moments like these.

 

[ThisIsGonnaBeGood]

I like how soft Lute's voice is when she asks, "Did you?"

 

[Strangolapreti]

The most realistic portrayal of a lesbian couple in the history if everything

Lesbians, am I right?

Whilst I have to admit it was funny gag, the show clearlt doesn't know what it wants sometimes, torn between seriousness and moments like these.

Some writers struggle to fund the right balance and moments to insert serious drama and comedy.
You don't need to perfectly nail it every time, but you do also need to avoid giving such whiplashes it becomes completely unwatchable.

 

[Sonya-chan]

I like how soft Lute's voice is when she asks, "Did you?"
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This is the best scene in the entire show, as well as Adam walking on Lute who realizes he is a ghost and is gone. I care more about these two than Angel Dust's abuse that is taken as a joke, or Husk that is a supposed slave, or Lilith or Vaggie's new stupid name or anyone else.

 

[The Nothingness]

I don’t want to sound like a grandpa but why did vivziepop decide that heaven should have just as much vulgar swearing as hell? It just feels like a reskinned hell when I hear Adam, the first man, or a literal seraphim say “fuck” every 10 seconds.

Sera could have been the one character who doesn't swear because of her high position, but it was done for another cheap "joke."

Why are Abel and Peter there who are fucking useless?

The male characters in both shows fall into three main categories: they are either useless and there to make the female character look good, a sad gay boi, or a douchebag asshole. Leave it to Vivienne to reduce Saint Peter, the leader of the Apostles, the man who one gospels records as cutting off a servant's ear when Jesus got arrested, and an important figure in Christianity, to a guy who watches the gate and no one in Heaven respects.

Why is Abel even hanging with Peter? Shouldn't Peter be with his family and friends that he knew in Galilee, or the converts he made through the Christian communities in Babylon and Rome? To play an advocate, there was enough time to meet others in Heaven and meet other biblical figures. Yet what stops Peter from befriending, say, Noah? Or the Eber? advancing time a bit, Joshua, Othniel, Ehud... so on?

Outside of Peter and Michael the Archangel, you have other Old and New Testament figures who could act as Heaven's defense force. Moses, Joshua (as mentioned by you), "Total Philistine Death" Samson, Kings David and Solomon, Simon the Zealot, who may have been part of a Jewish revolutionary group as depicted in The Chosen, and Paul the Apostle.

 

[A Very Big Fish]

Why is Abel even hanging with Peter? Shouldn't Peter be with his family and friends that he knew in Galilee, or the converts he made through the Christian communities in Babylon and Rome? To play an advocate, there was enough time to meet others in Heaven and meet other biblical figures. Yet what stops Peter from befriending, say, Noah? Or the Eber? advancing time a bit, Joshua, Othniel, Ehud... so on?

I would assume its based on the tradition of St. Peter basically being Heaven's doorkeeper, which is a folk belief that comes from when Peter affirms that Jesus is the Messiah and Son of God, and Jesus says:

"And I also say unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

The thing I find weird about Peter in the show is that he seems just like some preppy dork. St. Peter was a blue collar fisherman, and at one point almost got himself killed when according to the Gospel of John, while a bunch of soldiers are trying to arrest Jesus, "Simon Peter, who had a sword, drew it and struck the high priest’s servant, cutting off his right ear." Yet the characterization Viv got out of this is apparently Kenneth from 30 Rock, without the bizarre half-hinted at backstory.

Outside of Peter and Michael the Archangel, you have other Old and New Testament figures who could act as Heaven's defense force. Moses, Joshua (as mentioned by you), "Total Philistine Death" Samson, Kings David and Solomon, Simon the Zealot, who may have been part of a Jewish revolutionary group as depicted in The Chosen, and Paul the Apostle.

Basically anyone God made a king or judge like Gideon and Deborah. Jael, for planting a fucking tent peg through an enemy general's skull. The Maccabees though who the fuck knows what the Deuterocannon/Apocrypha's status is in this show. Not to mention like Samuel and Elijah who despite being prophets didn't really seem to be too bothered with cutting down people if it was an issue.

Regarding Simon, he's literally called The Zealot, so it stands to reason he was part of the group, which I assume is why The Chosen ran with it.

 

[The Fair Lady]

I don’t want to sound like a grandpa but why did vivziepop decide that heaven should have just as much vulgar swearing as hell? It just feels like a reskinned hell when I hear Adam, the first man, or a literal seraphim say “fuck” every 10 seconds.

This has driven me crazy since season 1. Viv is an actual child who has admitted she finds a well-delivered “fuck” funny (key words being well-delivered) and apparently she needs every single character to swear regardless of whether they’re from Heaven or Hell or else she’ll combust.