Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Trout P]

The concern I have is the lack of attention to detail happening in this case and with Greer rewriting the case history with his latest submission, it looks very possible nobody will question his assertions beside from Hardin. With the giga amount of tard shielding and what looks to be ridiculous Court practices, at least coming from a lay person, this could work in his favor because why the fuck not. Everything else is completely fucked in this case and it's impossible to get the courts to follow a single train of thought.

 

[Harvey Danger]

Nothing? You sure about that? Think about the "under penalty of perjury" milk that would flow from just those two individuals, on the record. Just imagine the humiliation, the burst blood vessels, the greasy hair torn out by the roots on the part of our pro se plaintiff.

Sure, we would be highly entertained. But Hardin has an actual lawsuit to win.

He could probably get something contradicting Greer's claims about damages, since the judge agrees that Greer's claims about damages are broad and vague enough to allow discovery to figure out wtf is going on there. But the damages claims fall apart on their own anyway. Strategically, I don't see their testimony being worth Greer getting to call whoever else he can. The laughs aren't worth the wasted time, additional distractions to the core issues, and requiring more refutation and arguing on the defense's part.

 

[Sneed Force One]

"I fully plan on being a continuing vexatious menace upon the Defendant, get over it"

Remember when you threatened to press harassment charges if Joshua Moon didn't agree to a settlement, Greer? A move so insane, its actually a crime?

 

[DragoonSierra]

What I find interesting is him saying that monetary sanctions would have a "severe chilling effect" on a pro se party.

While that can be partially true on people who cannot afford a lawyer, the little fucker is gliding by the fact that ANYONE can be a pro se litigant. Elon Musk could file as a pro se if he so chose.

He is trying to make it sound like "pro se" means a poor person. Or more appropriately, he is using pro se as a shield in place of his lost IFP status.

Does anyone else get that vibe? If so, (and I am unsure if Mr. Hardin gets to reply) I hope Mr. Hardin points out that being pro se doesn't mean he cannot afford sanctions in addition to noting how Russell has money for his lunatic schemes and plans.

Hes also saying it would have a severe chilling effect while saying it would not deter the plaintiff further

 

[obsdj]

Remember when you threatened to press harassment charges if Joshua Moon didn't agree to a settlement, Greer? A move so insane, its actually a crime?

I continue to wonder why that never made its way into a motion (as opposed to the Notice of Supplemental Authority that was filed at ECF 321). That whole "attorney's eyes only" bullshit was some serious bullshit and Greer should be made to pay for that.

 

[DavidS877]

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"I fully plan on being a continuing vexatious menace upon the Defendant, get over it"

"matters already addressed"
This is a new matter you fucking tard. New matter, new fuckup, new sanctions.
Also, this is a Rule 11 sanction for you lying to the court. The first sanction was a 37(b) discovery sanction, similar to the the Restraining Order sanction at the Show Cause stage now.

 

[Sneed Force One]

I continue to wonder why that never made its way into a motion (as opposed to the Notice of Supplemental Authority that was filed at ECF 321). That whole "attorney's eyes only" bullshit was some serious bullshit and Greer should be made to pay for that.

IIRC, Hardin directly quoted the Utah criminal statute of blackmail at him in an email then told Greer (in a professional way) "if you actually believe you can get a Harassment charge on Moon, go do it then pussy."

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Although the filing is still whacky in its own way, the AI really takes the fun out of reading them. It's just not the same.

I want Greee to realize that the AI admitted shit he shouldn't say in a filing, and then recant with "I'm just a pro se retard using ChatGPT to fuck with the courts".

I'm holding out. For an hero.

 

[Sexy Potoo]

The concern I have is the lack of attention to detail happening in this case and with Greer rewriting the case history with his latest submission, it looks very possible nobody will question his assertions beside from Hardin. With the giga amount of tard shielding and what looks to be ridiculous Court practices, at least coming from a lay person, this could work in his favor because why the fuck not. Everything else is completely fucked in this case and it's impossible to get the courts to follow a single train of thought.

Hasn't it been revealed that the judges only read like 1/20 of the submitted motions every couple of months, before they go and chase butterflies or whatever the fuck they do?

Game of Thrones is more likely to get an ending before this case does.

 

[Lapsus of the bepsus]

Although the filing is still whacky in its own way, the AI really takes the fun out of reading them. It's just not the same.

agreed, greer at least tries to insert some small truths into his filings to have something to point his finger at and its funny because its usually something he misinterpreted and actually works against him. but gpt just robotically makes shit up with absolute disregard for reality and 20 seconds into reading an ai filing it gets boring cuz you realize its not even talking about the case, it doesnt know anything about the case

 

[3-2-1836]

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How can there be "witness intimidation" where there is no witness nor potential witness?

Also, what's this about "misrepresentations of sealed records"? Is he seething at Mr. Hardin asking the court (still pending, I believe) to have a looksies into ECF 1?

Why is ECF 1 even sealed? And why can't Null the defendant even see it, isn't that some kind of unconstitutional violation of due process that a named party to an action isn't even allowed to see the original motion that started it?

 

[FuckedOffToff]

Hasn't it been revealed that the judges only read like 1/20 of the submitted motions every couple of months, before they go and chase butterflies or whatever the fuck they do?

Game of Thrones is more likely to get an ending before this case does.

I think you're playing on hard mode in the courts when even the judges have tard shields.
It explains their treatment of Greee, it's professional tard privilege.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

Hes also saying it would have a severe chilling effect while saying it would not deter the plaintiff further

He's Not Like the Other Pro Se Litigants.

 

[AnOminous]

'$4,620 would not deter future conduct'

That's a good argument for raising the sanctions to something that actually would deter him. Or moving on to sanctions for judgment proof losers who can't be deterred by monetary sanctions, like a term of incarceration.

 

[Pennsylvanian Pulsar]

this case is so fucked up I'm surprised there isn't a legal YouTube or journalist covering it.

The fact it has gone on this long is rather alarming and indicated that the judges in the legal system don't actually do their fucking job, and even if Hardin was to submit a timeline of events with links to all sources that it references the judge will just ignore it.

 

[obsdj]

this case is so fucked up I'm surprised there isn't a legal YouTube or journalist covering it.

Our own @Potentially Criminal occasionally dips into it on his channel.

 

[Pee Cola]

this case is so fucked up I'm surprised there isn't a legal YouTube or journalist covering it.

Our own @Potentially Criminal occasionally dips into it on his channel.

Yep. There's only about 20 hours of so worth of coverage on Sean's channel.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

Yep. There's only about 20 hours of so worth of coverage on Sean's channel.

"Only". its usually 2 or 3 hours per ecf.

 

[Pee Cola]

"Only". its usually 2 or 3 hours per ecf.

I did some mental math to exclude the non-Greee stuff in each of Sean's streams. Y'know... Clyde, sandwich talk, model-building spergery, that sort of thing.

 

[Thomas Talus]

The fact it has gone on this long is rather alarming

lol, welcome to litigation