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Should be a wild four years.

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It's absolutely 100% stupid and petty. But it's probably the single most effective and brutal psychological hit against an ideological enemy in a fucking century. And we're watching the most powerful government in the world do it with impunity to everyone who lied, cheated and stole to try to stop it.
Memetic warfare but instead of trying to mindfuck people into doing things against their own best interest, it's to mindfuck your enemies because "fuck you" with no lies mixed in.
 
Update on the RIFs case (reductions in force, firings of government employees during the shutdown). Last night the defense (Trump admin) submitted their opposition/response to the motion for preliminary injunction filed by the plaintiffs (the unions). It is thirty pages long, which is a shame because the Clinton-appointed lady judge in the Northern District of California will not bother to read it.

Also last night, the defense filed its opposition/response to the motion for plaintiffs to amend their complaint yet again. It's only five pages, but the judge still won't read it.

The union lawyers are expected to file their hysterical replies on Monday, and then the Big Hearing Covering Everything will commence on Tuesday, at which time the judge will undoubtedly ignore everything the admin lawyers have to say and declare that "everything [the union lawyer] just said is what I'm ruling," as she literally did in the last hearing, and that nobody can be fired no matter what. 🙄

Getting back to the RIFs again -- you know, the reductions in force, many of which were already in the pipeline before the threat of the government shutdown -- the unions (plaintiffs) filed their replies last night to the defense's objections to all the stupid in these proceedings. Specifically, the unions demanding to add more plaintiffs (union orgs) to the case, as well as their demand to add more federal government organizations to the case as defendants, and the unions demanding a preliminary injunction which would stay in effect for the duration.

Predictably, the union plaintiffs continue to insist that the defendant Trump admin organizations and their lawyers are lying about in-progress, upcoming, and barely-imagined RIFs.
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They very much intend to get the preliminary injunction for which they have moved, and repeatedly claim the RIFs are targeting political opponents.
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"The judge keeps ruling in our favor, so we are right and they are wrong."

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Emotional stress!
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And so on.
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Bonus Darth Vader declaration:
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ANYHOO, today is the day of their Big Be-All End-All Hearing in which All The Things will supposedly be discussed after which the Clinton-appointed lady judge who has already ruled in favor of everything the unions have demanded without a moment's thought will again rule in favor of everything the unions demand without a moment's thought. It's possible that this could be a good thing -- if, say, the Trump admin defendants have an application for stay to SCOTUS prepped and ready to go immediately after the preliminary injunction is ordered. Who knows?

Once I'm sure of the Zoom link for said hearing I'll share it (it's supposed to start at 10:30am California time per the order).
 

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Isn't this poverty also why the CCP resurrected "traditional Chinese medicine", because it was a cheap alternative to actually offering healthcare and dumb Western elites would eat it right up?
IIRC when Mao initiated the Cultural Revolution, he rid the country of Western medicine. So you got the "alternatives" made out of various dead animals, which led to many of them becoming endangered.
They really are banking on riots to happen over food stamps :stress:
 
and an inability to dig into the details.
Correct and when I brought up (regarding ICE controversies) with a family member who's an NPR liberal "Well I've noticed whenever I dig more into the details it turns out to not be like the headline said. Did you know that Maryland dad guy was actually a human trafficker for example? I never saw an article mention it but it's true, I saw the bodycam footage from the police who pulled him over."

I got no revelation of "oh shit maybe I don't have the full story" I just got "Well I don't have all the time to look up every single little thing like you do!"

That's fine and all but how about if you decide to watch boomer TV all day instead of fact checking shit you make the decision to not get assblasted about things you've decided aren't worth the time to verify?

It's not even that they take propaganda as the gospel truth and don't double check it, not everyone has time to care about everything, it's that they get genuinely worked up and furious over a topic they've decided is important to them - but not important enough to make sure they're talking about it accurately.

Every single time they'd bring up a case I'd do 20 minutes of looking into it and come back with "yeah looks like they entered illegally and have domestic violence charges" or "yeah they had a student visa originally but they overstayed so they're not in legal status anymore".

Every single fucking time. Not even that much effort.

I've gotten this same "I don't have time to look into everything" excuse from multiple liberal people or people who don't seem to be immune to lib propaganda. It's fucking bullshit. If you don't care enough to fact check you don't care enough to cry and seethe over it.
 
I looked around me and nobody in the liberal atmosphere that I was part of had even a passing familiarity with these things. All they have are these platitudes, the boilerplate propaganda lines and no understanding beneath it. That one you just quoted is another example. I think what amazes me the most about it is that they always say it to you as if you've never heard it before — as if liberal propaganda isn't the air we all have to breathe. From libertarians to literal Nazis and everyone in between, everyone already knows the liberal point of view on everything. You can't avoid knowing it. Liberals themselves don't seem to get that.
It's amusing because the left never tires of mocking Christians, yet so many on the left are the mirror image of the kind of authoritarian Christian groups they mock. Hardliner, authoritarian religious groups quote their belief system at you and think quoting it at you settles the matter. They think that the truth of their beliefs are so self-evident that no further discussion is required. They'll preach things at you as if you've never heard it before, because they can't comprehend you hearing it and not believing or accepting it. That's where we're at with so many on the left now.
 
>CNN: The Republican brand in Congress has actually improved including with Independents

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To be fair one of the Democrat senators sat down to an interview and said "yeah we know we're fucking up everything but the only way we can give illegals healthcare is by using suffering families as leverage"

Edit: I'm retarded for not including a source
 
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tldw - Morhan pulls the islamaphobia card. Just like Sadiq Khan did in London.
“When I am Weaker Than You, I ask you for Freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am Stronger than you, I take away your Freedom Because that is according to my principles.”
Children of Dune

Morhan is using Taqqiya to push marxist shit. IMO, he's no more Muslim than he is American. its a shield he can use to further marxist ideology.
 
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Reminder to sneethe some more because voters are starting to feel this way as well regarding Trump’s focus on foreign issues over domestic ones, especially with the shutdown starting to affect entitlements.

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just not true. a poll done on the 24th, 4 days ago revealed the majority of americans do not blame republicans for the shutdown, it's either no one's fault or democrats, and the numbers being cited here are less than 4 percent changes over a week. you can continue burgerposting all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that other people are not as retarded as you. there is no work to be done on the shutdown from the republican side, and it's major dem copium that there is. the republicans have passed the bill through the house, it is democrat votes holding it up in the senate. only one republican isn't voting to fund foodstamps, and he's just not doing it because he's a contrarian cunt who hates trump, not because of his belief that food stamps are wrong.

tl;dr lying leftists coping in the politics thread.
 
I'm really looking forward to this dipshit's trial. It's going to be lulzy as fuck when they have to transcribe getting blasted on DMT and repeatedly assfucked by a troon furry into official court records.
Can’t wait to see his nutcase boyfriend testify.
They really are banking on riots to happen over food stamps :stress:
Just invoke the Insurrection Act and sweep migrant/nigger neighborhoods. There are something like 500,000 illegals in Houston alone. If we pair ICE agents with infantry squads, the cities can be cleared out relatively easily.
 
40k isnt satire and hasn’t been for 30 years.
Even in first edition it was more "let's smash a whole bunch of other people's ideas together for fun and make the Orkz goofy football hooligans" An Ork pirate with a peg leg, hook hand, and a squig on his shoulder? That's not satire, that's just having fun.
 
Even in first edition it was more "let's smash a whole bunch of other people's ideas together for fun and make the Orkz goofy football hooligans" An Ork pirate with a peg leg, hook hand, and a squig on his shoulder? That's not satire, that's just having fun.
Don’t forget obiwan sherlock clousseau, the first named inquisitor in the setting.
 
just not true. a poll done on the 24th, 4 days ago revealed the majority of americans do not blame republicans for the shutdown
And what poll was this?
Just invoke the Insurrection Act and sweep migrant/nigger neighborhoods. There are something like 500,000 illegals in Houston alone. If we pair ICE agents with infantry squads, the cities can be cleared out relatively easily.
When turds fly
 
ANYHOO, today is the day of their Big Be-All End-All Hearing in which All The Things will supposedly be discussed after which the Clinton-appointed lady judge who has already ruled in favor of everything the unions have demanded without a moment's thought will again rule in favor of everything the unions demand without a moment's thought. It's possible that this could be a good thing -- if, say, the Trump admin defendants have an application for stay to SCOTUS prepped and ready to go immediately after the preliminary injunction is ordered. Who knows?

Once I'm sure of the Zoom link for said hearing I'll share it (it's supposed to start at 10:30am California time per the order).

If you want to tune in to the Big Hearing in the RIFs case, it appears this is the link to the judge's Zoom:


It should start in about twenty minutes or so, just now the court reporter was testing audio for it. As always, PLEASE DO NOT FUCK AROUND, MUTE YOUR MICROPHONE, AND DO NOT RECORD BECAUSE IT IS ILLEGAL TO DO SO. This is the United States District Court for the Northern District of California (in San Francisco). You can join via your browser if you don't have or want Zoom.
 
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