US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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You ideally would have something that would have the same value no matter what

Let me ask you this. "what is the function of money?" is it a unit of exchange? or a store of value?

Honestly money is the greatest creation of man because it is just a mass delusion even more powerful than religion.

Take for example people who have some acres of farmland, they can invest 100s of man hours to grow food and just be dirty poor farmers.

Or they can have some pasture and keep animals like cow or goats. Live stock can be pretty liquid you can take them down to the auction and get a check the same day.

The reason I mention live stock is the value of your live stock will change over time, the animals will get bigger, their weight will change, they might get sick, or stolen etc.

In a perfect world the unit of value for a cow would reflect and numbers of cows that exist, and a clear system would be able to signal to people to make more cows.

Why does the USDA buy milk and make it into cheese only to seal it away in cheese cave like some kinda cave of cheese wonders?

The answer is lag time, if it becomes uneconomical for dairies to make milk they will send their cows to slaughter, then if you have a higher demand for dairy it will take years to get cows up to speed.

anyway back on point.

Is money a store of value for example when you sell your labor for money and save it for when you cant work anymore, do you want your money to the value of your labor basically do you want to be productive in excess to be bankable and redeemed when your old and sick?

Those two functions put money at odds with its self.
 
That's my hope. That the Trump effect finally breaks through the conditioning. But it's hard man, our "chuds" for the most part consider orange man a crazy lunatic. How incredibly stupid Europeans as a whole are about American politics would leave you breathless.
You think? Obviously hating on Orange Hitler is big with the very committed left wing and liberal elite, and plenty of normies join in with the Trump jokes like it's still 2016, especially older people who watch TV news. But beneath that I hear increasing numbers of people wish we had our own version of Trump.
 
It’s happening! BUT, how is President Trump going to deport by the end of his term the full 15 million illegals that Biden allowed into the country PLUS the 30 million that were already squatting here PLUS the millions of anchor spiclets and other undesirables who were shat out on US soil but are definitely not Americans?

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We physically can't deport all of them at this point, we're going to have to also rely on self-deportations, which I think will pick up if the Trump administration keeps the pressure on. There's a huge networking component to illegal immigrant communties. If illegal immigrant enclaves start shrinking even just a little due to deportations, or at least start to sweat because there's a constant drumbeat about deportations for the next three years, combined with the Trump admin (hopefully) cutting off gibs to illegals, I think we'll see more of them, especially newer arrivals from Latin American countries, cut their losses and go home.

Lefties screech about Trump instilling fear in illegal immigrant communities, and they actually have a point there. But I have little sympathy because there's an easy solution: illegals can just go the fuck home. We're even offering them $1,000 to do so.
 
Yes printing more money than what was needed compared to growth (boom) and devaluation (bust) are bad. You ideally would have something that would have the same value no matter what the economy looked like. But that isn't possible. The difference with fiat and commodity currencies is that trillions of new dollars don't just show up from a new continent. A person or group of people had to make it. So blame can be put and changes can eventually be made to "right the ship". The new gold from the new world ended the Spanish empire, and the destruction of the armada.

So yeah commodity money doesn't work.
Nobody has the solution. Economics as a science is at the leeches and bleeding stages that medical science was at a couple hundred years ago. I just think history tells us that what Nixon was trying to do made sense until about 5 minutes after it was done and human greed took over bastardizing the whole thing. IMO our problems stem more from unchecked financial fraud than monetary policy. It's all irrelevant if you don't have an honest market. Evil Eddie rigging shit, etc.
 
new york deserves to burn at this point

there's something about seeing the amount of human suffering that's allowed and encouraged to exist in NYC that erodes part of the soul when it's viewed daily

at this point it's clear mamdani will win and NYC deserves him.
Sounds like someone just closed on a house in Palm Beach.
 
Sounds like someone just closed on a house in Palm Beach.
People don’t actually want or need an honest or effective government they want and need a government that comports to their ways and character. If it is evil they will they should choose it freely. No polity deserves to exist! It has to emanate from the people even if it is a terrible mistake
 
All this talk about canada, wouldnt that just fill america with canadains chinks and jeets?
I don’t want all of Canada. Only the based valuable parts. I want to leave Canada as a rump state that is seething non stop about losing Alberta and not having money for dem programs.
 
I don’t want all of Canada. Only the based valuable parts. I want to leave Canada as a rump state that is seething non stop about losing Alberta and not having money for dem programs.
There are no based parts of Canada. Canadians fucking hate Americans. They unironically think we're all sexist and racist and deserve death for it. They say this while they beat their wives and seethe about coloreds taking their jobs and rentals. Canadians are just dumber than Americans and that's a reality.

What's going to happen is very simple. The lawsuit that saw half of Richmond BC is going to see a dozen clones and they're going to carve Canada apart. The housing market that's barely clinging to life will fall apart because only retards will buy property from a bank that has no right to sell it. The economy is about to collapse in Canada. Their dollar fell from nearly 80cents to 70 to USD. Alberta will hit the gas on their already accelerating plans to separate. They'll take the neighboring provinces with them. Montreal will take the chance and finally separate as well and declare independence. That's it, Canada will be gone. Completely gone. Carney and Trudeau will go down in history as the men who destroyed Canada.
 
He's obviously not retarded. Not paying the troops is a good way for everyone to enter a world of shit. Also gets him in good with the trump admin.
When I heard about this I couldn’t help but think of the Roman republic.
There are no based parts of Canada. Canadians fucking hate Americans. They unironically think we're all sexist and racist and deserve death for it. They say this while they beat their wives and seethe about coloreds taking their jobs and rentals. Canadians are just dumber than Americans and that's a reality.

What's going to happen is very simple. The lawsuit that saw half of Richmond BC is going to see a dozen clones and they're going to carve Canada apart. The housing market that's barely clinging to life will fall apart because only retards will buy property from a bank that has no right to sell it. The economy is about to collapse in Canada. Their dollar fell from nearly 80cents to 70 to USD. Alberta will hit the gas on their already accelerating plans to separate. They'll take the neighboring provinces with them. Montreal will take the chance and finally separate as well and declare independence. That's it, Canada will be gone. Completely gone. Carney and Trudeau will go down in history as the men who destroyed Canada.
I’ve known people from Alberta and I like them. I’d like to see them become a state and also deport all the jeets there.

Also lol imagine having your country die because of a lolsuit by the people you conquered. Imagine being that cucked it destroyed the real estate market that you propped up and your entire economy is dependent upon. Lmao
 
If Trump is doing his dance in Malaysia, he is so close to bringing the Burma dance to life. If does a Dead Maduro Dance, he needs a 3rd term just for utter brilliance:




Here is Aizen this morning saying he was given power to destroy the Chynese Quincy but has worked out a deal so they stop their gay rare earth shit:

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This is only if you have retard patience which might be weak this morning and just want to see current liberal mindset, Brian Shapiro is TES thread levels of TDS and went on Beanie Man's Culture War show, and is just horrible at everything. Just anger and literally has everything revolve around Trump. He tries the emotional manipulation that no one cares about anymore and when even Beanie Man can just slap you around, you're retarded. I didn't even know who this guy is but he's some liberal (who says he's independent) who has some youtube channel called Pushing the Limits.

 
It’s happening! BUT, how is President Trump going to deport by the end of his term the full 15 million illegals that Biden allowed into the country PLUS the 30 million that were already squatting here PLUS the millions of anchor spiclets and other undesirables who were shat out on US soil but are definitely not Americans?

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That's deportation and self-deportation rates now. ICE and CBP are hiring and training more staff, which will allow them to increase the rate at which they remove illegals. Not only that, but the administration is making significant legal gains and removing benefits for illegals, including both NGO funding and state and federal funding. It's becoming a worse place to be for illegals, which makes it more likely that they will leave. In the current state of affairs, it's already more difficult for them to work or even leave home without the risk of being arrested. We're also literally paying them to fuck off. On top of that, President Trump is resolving international conflicts and removing dictators so that there's less excuse for them to have refugee status and more reason for them to go home. To summarize:

  • Rate of direct removals will increase with staff increases
  • Rate of self-removals will increase because
    • Fewer benefits available for illegals in America
    • Harder to work or leave home for illegals, will become increasingly more difficult
    • Illegals can receive travel vouchers to leave
    • Better home countries to return to
  • Fewer legitimate refugees
 
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I don’t want all of Canada. Only the based valuable parts. I want to leave Canada as a rump state that is seething non stop about losing Alberta and not having money for dem programs.
This is why I suggested making AvE the Republic's vassal king of Canada. The things he'd say before public executions would be most memorable.
 
at this point it's clear mamdani will win and NYC deserves him.
I can't see him losing at this point either. Sliva only had a chance in a 3 way race (as does any Republican in NYC at this point due to demographics). Cuomo is still too hated, and Sliwa spent most of his time in the debates tearing him down. Sliwa, having been a media figure since the 70s and having done radio had some great zingers and a Trump/Vance-like way of saying meme shittalking, but Trump not endorsing him was a death sentence.

Zoltar will win because he's the darling of the moment. He has the pop culture momentum, the far leftist woke commies love him, and the middle of the road Dems want to support him to prove to themselves that they are still hip and have leftist bonafides.

What he does in the next few years will be interesting. NYC Mayor is one of the most powerful and high profile political positions in the US, on par with Senators and Governors. It's the only mayoral job that has a realistic shot of running for President (sorry Mayor Pete!)--but he wasn't born here so he can't run. He probably couldn't run for Governor and win anything Upstate, so outside of a Cabinet sinecure in a theoretical future D administration, this is the endpoint of his political career.

So what does he do? I predict he spends the next 2 years grandstanding against Trump, defying him as much as possible, being very vocal in the media, and turning NYC into even more of a communist experiment while wringing as much money out of Albany as he can to do so. More gibs, DIE, sanctuary city policies, and ratchet up taxes on the rich. He'll try to vie with Newsom as the national leader of the #RESISTANCE and make himself a Kingmaker for the Democrat Party. He'll want his endorsement for President to be a coveted thing--for Newsom, Kamala, AOC, Hoschul, Schiff, probably Leticia James--and he will charge dearly for that.

I also see, especially if Pelosi leaves, a very good chance of the Democratic Socialists wholesale taking over the party. As Boomers die, middle of the road leftists will have less power in the party, making the radical commie/trans/woke/Theater Kid/pro-Hamas wing more influential. Remember when AOC came in and on Day One was protesting in Pelosi's office, then Pelosi smacked her down and put her in her place? She's largely been under control for the last few years. Pelosi is now nominally no longer the HNIC of the House Dems, but she has some influence. By 2028 she will be gone, Schumer may be gone too, and AOC will be old enough to run for President.

If Zoltar endorses her and she wins, the DNC will just be a skinsuit worn by the DSA at that point.
 
We physically can't deport all of them at this point, we're going to have to also rely on self-deportations, which I think will pick up if the Trump administration keeps the pressure on. There's a huge networking component to illegal immigrant communties. If illegal immigrant enclaves start shrinking even just a little due to deportations, or at least start to sweat because there's a constant drumbeat about deportations for the next three years, combined with the Trump admin (hopefully) cutting off gibs to illegals, I think we'll see more of them, especially newer arrivals from Latin American countries, cut their losses and go home.
Realistically, it will take 2 presidential terms to clear out the backlog of illegals and that includes the anchor spiclets/chinks/muzzies, etc. The big danger would be if a democrat somehow gets elected in 2028, but fortunately the democrat brand is severely damaged right now. Just as damaging would be the election of a RINO, but those traitors are being unmasked and publicly harangued. Perhaps JD Vance wins the election. Will he be as committed as Trump about enforcing immigration laws?

Lefties screech about Trump instilling fear in illegal immigrant communities, and they actually have a point there. But I have little sympathy because there's an easy solution: illegals can just go the fuck home. We're even offering them $1,000 to do so.
I think a lot of Americans are experiencing not only black fatigue but also immigrant fatigue and it doesn’t matter if they’re legal or illegal migrants.

That’s the other thing: let’s not solve the illegal immigration problem but then lose the country to massive legal immigration. Stop importing the effing world!
 
Rate of self-removals will increase because
  • Fewer benefits available for illegals in America
  • Harder to work or leave home for illegals, will become increasingly more difficult
  • Illegals can receive travel vouchers to leave
  • Better home countries to return to
Perhaps but don’t underestimate how utterly sh*tty the countries are from which the turd world filth poured out of. These stone age creatures who’ve been squatting in the US have been able to taste a first world existence and they are loathe to return to their backwards hellholes.

I suspect many of the illegals will try to wait out the Trump administration in the hope that the next president isn’t so interested in enforcing the immigration laws. But they must be found and deported with EXTREME prejudice!
 
Realistically, it will take 2 presidential terms to clear out the backlog of illegals and that includes the anchor spiclets/chinks/muzzies, etc. The big danger would be if a democrat somehow gets elected in 2028, but fortunately the democrat brand is severely damaged right now. Just as damaging would be the election of a RINO, but those traitors are being unmasked and publicly harangued. Perhaps JD Vance wins the election. Will he be as committed as Trump about enforcing immigration laws?
One of my deepest fears for the next three years is that Trump and Vance somehow get taken out at the same time and we end up with President Mike Johnson, and he keeps the record 3 for 3 on appointed President Johnsons destroying the country
 
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