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I genuinely think they just want to fuck dogs, and that that's a more acceptable way of openly expressing it.
I thought the puppygirl bullshit was just some other other method of trying to dodge normal adult responsibility. "I'm just a dumb pet with no useful skills, take care of me!" Normal women do that shit too.
 
You know the whole 'trans puppygirl' thing that you see, increasingly, in tranny circles on social media?
Wasn't sure what this was, so I did a quick Google and this was one of the first things I found:

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Hoping that this person is fully aware of what they've just walked into.

Anyway, I also found some interesting replies from this thread:

The OP: Hi, cis male ally here. Over the past few years, I've noticed this thing between some trans couples. Dunno if it's a meme or something they actually do, but I see it sometimes. They call each other "puppygirls". I'm just curious where this came from. Is it a BDSM thing? I'm not trying to ruffle any feathers, I genuinely want to know. I mean, I love dogs and some people I've met have said I am cute like a puppy, so that might have a little to do with it, but it's overwhelmingly more out of curiosity. I hope this is an appropriate question to ask.
The replies are general run-of-the-mill stuff, but notice the pattern:

It's nice to be cared for. Having no societal expectations you have to meet. Just being loved by an owner who takes care of you. You always have to be tough being a Trans woman/man with so many struggles we have to fight every day and it's nice to sometimes just forget all that. I think that's what many puppygirls yearn for.
I identify as a "puppygirl" and have a few insights

First, there is definitely a certain amount of roleplay in it. I enjoy being able to abandon heavy social and societal norms that have been imposed on me and just "return to base instincts" such as not speaking, seeking intimate contact like cuddling (not strictly sex) and just lounging about

This comes down to a few factors

  1. Being trans today is incredibly stressful, from the political aspects, social pushback, difficulty to accessing medicine. Puppyplay is form of escapism for a lot of us, to pretend our life is simpler and easier, like how others might find escapism in Video Games or Reading
  2. A lot of tran people are undiagnosed/diagnosed ADHD/Autistic. I'm in my late 20s and have only recently received an official daignosis for both. People with ADHD/Autism just dont understand or identify with social norms and find it suffocating, even more so with Social Media and Society forcing everyone to compete and be "most perfect". Puppyplay and escapism it provides become even more appealing
  3. Being trans requires being able/comfortable rejecting very heavy social norms about sexuality,gender,gender norms and so on. After rejecting this one big social norm, puppyplay does not seem weird or too far out compared to normal people
It's a kink, not specifically related to trans people but it is a kink space you're likely to encounter a lot of trans people in, I think for a lot of puppies it's a trauma response, a way to feel less human whilst still feeling loved, it's quite sweet when practiced with good intentions.
we’re dehumanized a lot as trans people in ways we obviously can’t control, and i think it’s a way to take that dehumanization and control it, just like with many other kinks and such that deal with power dynamics. the power dynamic that is usually abusive can be turned into a coping space with consensual dehumanization.

that doesn’t make it a trans experience, as anyone can be dehumanized and use puppy space as a means to cope or to play, but the overlap is there 🤷‍♀️

you could also totally be trans or cis and into puppy play without having any deeper thought into it as a cope, and that’s fine too. sometimes a gal just needs to bark meow 😇
puppygirl here. My parents always had high expectations for my academic performance and seemed to want me to read their mind a lot of the time. I was also raised in a high control group that taught me sexual repression was something to aspire to. Combined with no interest in socializing - bc I never really wanted to be friends with "other" boys - I burned out and shut myself in.

I'm a puppygirl because as a pet I'm loved unconditionally, expressing my sexuality is encouraged and rewarded, and for what few expectations there are, it's usually one simple command to follow at a time. There's not a lot of room for misinterpretation, and what's asked of me is never impossible.

Like some of the other forms of BDSM I practice, it brings me healing in the form of an environment that counteracts the one that damaged me.
In other words, the same crap we normally see from the trans community. "I'm so oppressed and need this kink to feel whole!"

The sad thing is, it's likely a continuation of the trooning thing. I've heard of VERY few trannies who are responsible members of society and personally know of none IRL. For many trannies, it's a form of opting out of taking responsibility.

Dad: Your brother just won a prestigious writing award and your sister is now a licensed RN! Isn't that exciting?

Tranny: I'm so oppressed, just existing makes me a superhero!

That's literally the train of thought surrounding so many trannies. I've mentioned a certain relative before in the thread about loved ones who trooned, but to give a quick recap because it's relevant here, my relative's kid decided to troon. He was suffering from anxiety and had to stay home to do his coursework online during high school because of it (I think his parents just coddled him, actually. I was never allowed to stay home because of crippling depression as a teen.) He was also a very socially awkward kid, again probably because of his crazy parents.

Anyway, he was a smart kid. He was into computers, chess, and math, mostly. Finally, his therapists convinced him to troon out (although another relative decided to become a pooner just months before, so that may have influenced his decision, too) and now I don't think he does much except for sit at home and care for his spoony mom because his dad actually works. I was talking to another relative and suggested that maybe if he got even a little job somewhere, it would help him out (he's afraid to leave the house by himself because of MAGA) and he (the other relative) said that if he was a boy, he wouldn't want him to just live off of his parents like that, but since he's a girl now, that changes things and sitting at home is perfectly fine and much safer.

Puppygirl seems to be an extension of that pathological thinking, and a perfect excuse for when you have a kink you know people will judge you for, but want to sound like you're actually empowered and not just a nasty pervert who wants to rape a dog.

However, this reply takes the cake.

Very well said writeup.

I first transformed into a kitty one night we were all very high and a friend of ours who was really gone at the moment, took her pants off, as in buff derrierre, ⚠️ then proceded to start meowing and playing around like a cat. I followed suit, and here's my wife catering to two grown assed women being cats tossing us skittles as treats and me and my friend ate the off the floor. It felt adorable and I loved it!

My wife said later on that my friend crossed her boundary a bit and was weirded out. Why I did nothing but played along? But in my defense, I was a cat. What am I supposed to do? Like literally! My mind and body went into total cat mode.

To this day, I still like to cuddle up at wifey's feet and sometimes use purrs and meows as a form of nonverbal communication.
 
However, this reply takes the cake.

I first transformed into a kitty one night we were all very high and a friend of ours who was really gone at the moment, took her pants off, as in buff derrierre, ⚠️ then proceded to start meowing and playing around like a cat. I followed suit, and here's my wife catering to two grown assed women being cats tossing us skittles as treats and me and my friend ate the off the floor. It felt adorable and I loved it!


Just to clarify?
Are any of the people in this write up actually women?

I am slightly more inclined to believe that they are cats rather than women.
 
I want to say the wife, but it reads like they might be a troon too.

That’s what I thought.

Though there is a slim possibility that this wife is a handmaiden who has long had all of her self esteem bullied out of her by a controlling father and then fell into a marriage with an equally controlling AGP.
 
The sad thing is, it's likely a continuation of the trooning thing. I've heard of VERY few trannies who are responsible members of society and personally know of none IRL. For many trannies, it's a form of opting out of taking responsibility.

Dad: Your brother just won a prestigious writing award and your sister is now a licensed RN! Isn't that exciting?

Tranny: I'm so oppressed, just existing makes me a superhero!
It drives me nuts.

“She’s a fuckup because she was assigned the wrong gender at birth!”
*transition*
“She’s a fuckup because of society’s transphobia!”

I suspect in the coming years we’ll start seeing detransitioners who claim to be fuckups because they were coerced into thinking they were trans.

The whole thing reminds me of Scientology, which will turn you into a super-capable being, unless you’re being held back by Suppressive Persons, which wasn’t a problem until you joined Scientology.
 
Apologies if this has been discussed before (I tried searching for it), but I wanted to talk about the how several serial killers experienced encouraged/forced crossdressing in early childhood. Many serial killers report being made to dress in girl clothing at a very young age by relatives, whether that be for punishment, because the parent wanted a daughter, or just because the parent thought it was cute/amusing. Why do you think this commonality exists? I can see how growing up in an environment where crossdressing was used as a punishment or where your parent wished you were the opposite sex would mess you up. However, while I find the idea off-putting on an intuitive level, I struggle to understand the exact pathway that dressing your 3-year-old son in dresses because you think it's cute leads to him being a serial killer/rapist. What exactly is happening to the brain there? How does dressing a male toddler in clothing socially designated for the opposite sex eventually lead to him becoming a sexually sadistic murderer?

Do you think maybe this is just an overall common experience, and it's misattributed to serial killers? Are the serial killers lying/obfuscating the truth, perhaps to shift the blame for their adult crossdressing/AGP and later crimes onto their parents? Are parents who crossdress their sons more likely than other parents to do other things that mess their children up, even if they aren't outright abusive?
 
This 'trans puppygirl' thing has actually turned into quite an interesting discussion, and I wish I could have contributed sooner, because there's a few things that stand out to me.

The most obvious and repeated thing to note is the manchild-esque, Peter Pan Syndrome objection to growing up and taking responsibility, which is really interesting to me to consider, because of the opinion shown here that to be a dog is live a free, easy and low-effort existence, when if you think about it for more than like ten seconds, isn't based on reality.

Dogs, as we know them, didn't magically appear on the planet one day to be funny little bundles of fluff designed entertain us. In a lot of cases, they were bred, specifically, to do work, by humans. There are still working dogs today.

To quote Scottish Twitter:

Dog Wi A Job.png

These puppygirl troons just want to play and sleep and be cuddled - some might say 'coddled' - but they don't want to fetch (go to work and earn money), or go walkies (exercise), or sit and stay (quietly introspect about why they are the way they are).

@Athena Save Us! has found a few little nuggets on her Reddit ramble that I thought were amusing.

First of all:

Being trans today is incredibly stressful, from the political aspects, social pushback, difficulty to accessing medicine.

OK, but when wasn't it for you? Like, let's steelman that common tranny argument that this whole thing is totally organic, that there have always been trans people, that this isn't in fact, just a weird fad that's being pushed by groups with vested interests. Some might say that today, with all the advancements that have been made - socially, scientifically, medically - that it's actually a really good time to be a trans person, all things considered. I don't think medieval peasants had HRT and life-saving medical care. Back in their day, they had to drink horsepiss from the source if they wanted their oestrogen, and if they were caught engaging in some vital, gender-affirming transvesticism, it'd be burning at the stake for them... I imagine.

So, with that in mind, why is the trans puppygirl thing seemingly such a recent, emerging phenomenon, if trans people have indeed always existed and those trans people would conceivably have lived in harder, more stressful times and environments than the modern day first world?

others might find escapism in Video Games or Reading

Maybe this is judgemental and cheap of me, but I do enjoy that they apparently thought of video games before reading.

It's a kink, not specifically related to trans people but it is a kink space you're likely to encounter a lot of trans people in

I think this is the correct, most honest answer. Trans women are more likely to be perverts, and take an interest in perverted shit. This whole thing is just yet another example of trannies parading their fetishes in public and expecting to be praised for it by people who did not consent to being a part of it.

I think for a lot of puppies it's a trauma response, a way to feel less human whilst still feeling loved, it's quite sweet when practiced with good intentions.

This bit can fuck right off, though. As someone with trauma, it boils my blood when these disingenuous kinkster fucks use this bullshit excuse to justify or excuse their frequently weird, and more often than not disturbing and disgusting fetishes.

For the record, though, I still think all of this shit is just a convoluted, thinly veiled way of admitting to the world at large that they just want to fuck dogs.
 
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Apologies if this has been discussed before (I tried searching for it), but I wanted to talk about the how several serial killers experienced encouraged/forced crossdressing in early childhood. Many serial killers report being made to dress in girl clothing at a very young age by relatives, whether that be for punishment, because the parent wanted a daughter, or just because the parent thought it was cute/amusing. Why do you think this commonality exists? I can see how growing up in an environment where crossdressing was used as a punishment or where your parent wished you were the opposite sex would mess you up. However, while I find the idea off-putting on an intuitive level, I struggle to understand the exact pathway that dressing your 3-year-old son in dresses because you think it's cute leads to him being a serial killer/rapist. What exactly is happening to the brain there? How does dressing a male toddler in clothing socially designated for the opposite sex eventually lead to him becoming a sexually sadistic murderer?

Do you think maybe this is just an overall common experience, and it's misattributed to serial killers? Are the serial killers lying/obfuscating the truth, perhaps to shift the blame for their adult crossdressing/AGP and later crimes onto their parents? Are parents who crossdress their sons more likely than other parents to do other things that mess their children up, even if they aren't outright abusive?
IMO crossdressing kids is a form of sexualized abuse, in outcome if nothing else, especially in the form of spinny skirt. It's "wanting to kill the man in them" before they have a chance of growing up. Very easy to see how that would breed a psyche with a LOT of resentment. (Crossdressing is a fetish/kink for adults so I see it as no different than making kids engage in any other fetish/kink. Others might not agree but it's how I understand it.)

It's highly likely someone fucked in the head enough to use something like that as a punishment or personal amusement is weird and abusive in other ways as well. And then of course it's very likely they had underlying issues that made any type of poor treatment effect them more so than it would someone with a more normal psychological profile.
 

Kiwis, what do we think of this? According to NYT some women are dosing T up to serum levels approaching those of men. The article is kind of middle road: “some women reported great sex and way more energy, other had serious mood problems, acne, facial hair growth voice changes and hair loss. Some of them had both at the same time!”

My only 2 cents to add is that hormonal birth control is really not very good for female libido. Compared to non hormonal methods I notice a difference… and not for the better. (to say more is likely PLing.)

But I also don’t think I would ever want to fuck around with dosing T given the well documented problems pooners have with it. So what are we to think of these cis women healthy types who are doing just that?

Discuss.
 
Have any of you been able to come up with a good elevator pitch for why you are a TERF? Anytime I try to explain myself it’s always on borrowed time, which makes me anxious and it snowballs into me just, giving up? Not spergily necessarily, more exhaustion due to being assumed for the worst.
Every partisan issue can and should be thought of in terms of who it's victimizing. Trans allies believe that the amount of total victimization happening on the pro-trans side (I.E. people who presently are and want to be trans) is higher, and I believe the amount of total victimization on the opposite side (I.E. everyone being forcibly compelled to cooperate with trans culture's insistences, as well as those who irreversibly ruined their bodies during transition) is higher. It's fairly simple when you abstract it far enough.

The replies are general run-of-the-mill stuff, but notice the pattern:
it's real fuckin funny that we have a societally acceptable niche for the people who just want to have their fiscal obligations seen to by a compassionate owner and it's just being a tradwife

i guess they can't be fucked to do the cooking and cleaning part though
 
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everyone being forcibly compelled to cooperate with trans culture's insistences, as well as those who irreversibly ruined their bodies during transition) is higher.
It is higher on the non-trans side. They got so many people fired for not bending the knee to the cult, or deplatformed. A lot of people can no longer talk about their health issues without one of them popping up and going 'and what about trans people?' and the issues that caused. And all of the language they changed to talk about women is dehumanizing. You can probably list more, but this is just what I can think of off the top of my head.
 
You can probably list more, but this is just what I can think of off the top of my head.
Definitely. The "intensity" aspect is already fairly damning, but the "quantity" aspect is orders of magnitude higher. Even if both sides were suffering equally per-person, the fact that there are so many more people on the non-trans side experiencing that suffering make for a far, far higher amount of total victimization on that side.

In strictly mathematical terms, it makes much more sense to be against the insistences of trans culture on the basis of total suffering.
 
IMO crossdressing kids is a form of sexualized abuse, in outcome if nothing else. (Crossdressing is a fetish/kink for adults so I see it as no different than making kids engage in any other fetish/kink. Others might not agree but it's how I understand it.)
I didn't think about it that way. I was perplexed about these seemingly "innocent" cases with no apparent sexual abuse (Charles Albright comes to mind), but still couldn't shake the feeling it was definitely somehow "wrong". I think you're right to look at it from the perspective that it's an adult knowingly crossdressing a child, and they know all the adult implications of that. If they truly just wanted to dress their son up in something cute, there are options of boy's clothes available. There is probably no innocent case of encouraged crossdressing, and they all probably had underlying sexual and otherwise abusive motivations. Even though a toddler doesn't yet understand the implications of wearing one garment over the other, the intent of the adult still affects them all the same.
 
Kiwis, what do we think of this? According to NYT some women are dosing T up to serum levels approaching those of men. The article is kind of middle road: “some women reported great sex and way more energy, other had serious mood problems, acne, facial hair growth voice changes and hair loss. Some of them had both at the same time!”
Testosterone is a steroid, so it isn't surprising that people get the traditional benefits of steroids when they take testosterone. More energy, a mood boost, a sense of confidence, etc. Of course, no one ever talks about the down sides of abusing steroids in this context.

I thought the puppygirl bullshit was just some other other method of trying to dodge normal adult responsibility. "I'm just a dumb pet with no useful skills, take care of me!" Normal women do that shit too.
Troonery is one of many flavors of dissociative coping mechanisms. If you're an autistic failson with severe pornbrain, just pretend to be a puppy. Now you have someone to take care of you while you just get to feel cute and rub your girldick.

A lot of troons don't actually want to be women, they just want to not be themselves. And like any junkie, they throw a fit when their high is threatened.

See here.
 
Do you ever wonder if they could be tricked into taking an antipsychotic if it was in the trans colors?
Seroquel is already sort of that shade of pink.

Short answer is I’m sure plenty of them already do.

A lot of troons don't actually want to be women, they just want to not be themselves. And like any junkie, they throw a fit when their high is threatened.
You’re so right and unfortunately for the troons they don’t seem to get that wherever they go, there they are. Thats why they’re always so terminally unhappy no matter how many items on the transition to do list they accomplish.
 
A lot of troons don't actually want to be women, they just want to not be themselves. And like any junkie, they throw a fit when their high is threatened.
I fully believe (atleast the completely porn brained types) basicly saw trooning as some kind of final solution. like it would either completely fix them or give them the high to end all highs.
 
A lot of troons don't actually want to be women, they just want to not be themselves. And like any junkie, they throw a fit when their high is threatened.
I always treated them as porn addicts, since I've witnessed most of them say it started with porn/hentai and them fantasizing as the girl. Most of it is a porn addiction and they get really mad when someone mentions that! Truth hurts.
 
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