Charlie Kirk: Aftermath, Gravedancing, and Manhunt

[Sinner's Sandwich]

I just read the logs and leaks. What a nightmare.

When men catch feels, we really catch feels. Which is what it sounds like happened with Tyler. He was just so fucking happy to be touched, the euphoria blinders let him ignore literally every warning sign. Most of us, have our first relationship when we are teens in high school. We all remember that break up after dating Becky for like 3 weeks and feel like the world is ending and suddenly we got really into emo all is darkness and the world will never be the same. Then we met Sara like a week later and got over it. That is the normal psycho-social development.

Now with so much of our lives surrounded by the internet, having pastimes like gaming where we can hide from the world. So many seem to be delaying those moments of growth. Tyler ended up with a drugged crazy person. Who sounds like they are extremely manipulative. Tyler got sucked in and the sudden hormonal release of pair bonding after getting some man ass. Basically made him putty for a drugged out demon troon. Which ended with Charlie Kirk getting shot in the throat in front of his family.
When you lack emotional maturity in your twenties because you have hid from the world. You now have the means to fuck up your life and the life of all those around you. Especially if you fall under the thumb of someone insane, or a BPD headcase. A bit of a PL, but an associate just ran away from a 6 figure job. Fucked up his life and career, and ran off to a city on the other side of the country and bought the woman who convinced him to do it a Porsche. This woman is 300 pound headcase who is only special because she gave him his first pee pee touch when he was 28 years old. Life is fucked for years now.

Take this as a warning, both men and women. None of us are wholly immune to being sucked into something like this. As we get older and more mature the chances are less and less. But there is no "I can fix him/her." It only ends in madness.

I don't give a shit. This degenerate murder faggot must get the death sentence asap and the tranny ghoul belongs behind bars for the rest of his worthless life!

 

[kobebyarlant]

Idk how but having a relationship with a brain rotted goon troon trying to be a woman somehow comes off as gayer than if Tyler just dated a standard gay guy.

 

[Manimal House]

You know, there's been quite a few failed assassination attempts lately from people who are just straight up nuts who hardly know what they're doing. Trump had a few of them but the one that got Charlie is more or less the same type of person and it's got me imagining the craziest conspiracy theory that I've thought of in a while: Tyler was set up to miss the shot but he got lucky and actually hit the target. It's like, I was always under the impression that professional assassins were competent with very little information on them so not much could be traced. However, this guy has a Discord footprint that makes him out to be the sworn enemy of everything that Kirk stood against, and if he had missed the shot then it might have scared political speakers on the right from following Kirk's footsteps as intended. Instead, this asshole actually shot him and all hell broke loose and people eirther scrambled or got really pissed off.

It's probably just my imagination running wild but I just think it's weird how these bullets aimed at public/political figures are coming from total clowns.

 

[Alcohol is my fren]

The leaker being a roommate is the conclusion I came to watching the video just because of the amount of time they spent with Lance and in the house, and the context (and length) of some of the redactions

I was skeptical of it being a roommate at first. I even posted a big explanation on why I didn’t think it was. But I reread everything today and I believe you’re right. Also the person I first responded to with an explanation as to why it wasn’t a roomie—you were right—is my new opinion.

 

[CyrusHowler]

Their friends figured out they were "close" thanks to Magic the Gathering

Great. Filth like this enjoying a hobby I like……Wonderful.

This is just tranny MKUltra, featuring a mentally ill faggot who chopped his dick off to become a woman and a mentally disabled loser who was speaking gibberish to ChatGPT with Greek symbols. I can’t believe these will be the types of terrorists shooting our politicians and schools. They don’t make them like they used to.

Hale and Robinson make Klebold and Harris look like Clint Eastwood and John Wayne.

 

[Elmo]

The leaker being female is something that one user upthread said based on an assumption that they were grossed out by the making out because they have feelings for Tyler, which is a laughable leap to conclusions. Nothing about the leaker comes off as typically female and it’s a strange assumption to make in the face of zero specific evidence pointing that way- the writing style, male roommates, gym buddies and interest in MTG all suggest a man to me.

What are the odds it's a rebuffed fat guy who wasn't invited into the thruple?

 

[Alcohol is my fren]

What are the odds it's a rebuffed fat guy who wasn't invited into the thruple?

I’d say it was more likely to be a fat pooner that was rejected, rather than a fat homosexual biological man.

But I’m not so sure that I’d bet money on it.

 

[Unifier of Hispania]

There's still a lot missing from the story

The leaks end abruptly 1 month before the shooting (except for Tyler‘s confession). Barely any political content is shown, with Tom emphasising how apolitical the group was. There certainly is more to it than what was made public.

The leaker is so obnoxiously concerned with MTG that they fail to build a linear narrative, relying on episodic events and descriptions centered around the game.

The leaker fails to demonstrate how Lance‘s deteriorating mental state influenced Tyler to commit the shooting. Charlie Kirk isn’t even mentioned on the messages. It appears that there‘s an intent of shifting the blame from Tyler to Lance. It’s like a gay Netflix adaptation of Macbeth.

 

[Masterful Debator]

He literally didn't though.

He made a basic shot at a distance most could plausibly make.
Then he got fucking caught. Like he literally did not escape a manhunt he got caught on like day 3, what alternate reality do you live in?

Basic shot? Yeah right you kike faggot.

Random faggot just got up with his rifle which had untraceable parts and publicly (full of adrenalin, shaky hands) shot someone in the neck then escaped the heavy police presence and federal manhunt for 3 days. Totally wasnt done by a trained professional.


If you believe this you are total retarded low iq moron faggot or a kike shill, in both cases you should kys.

 

[Evan Kor]

-How did Tyler get to the point where he believed killing another person over politics was justified?
-Did he genuinely take Lance's schizobabble seriously?

I think the answer is that he loved his boyfriend and thought that the killing would be in the best interest of the guy. His boyfriend was fucked in the head and thus Tile-boy thought that the only way he could protect and help his boyfriend was to kill the man who he thought was causing his butt-buddy so much distress. Did he take the things the nutcase said seriously? Probably not but the faggot was still heavily distressed over the facts and reason that Kirk was expressing.

Killings like this will probably continue so long as people keep trying to manipulate faggots into thinking that every member of one political party is out to get them. The silver lining in this case is that the tranny will probably kill himself now that the one guy in the world who loved him is no longer in his life and no one else will ever date the nesting freak. He only got what he had because he found a virgin roughly his own age to date him.

 

[DreinMeinVein]

I'll only believe this if they don't find gunshot residue on him. You don't avoid that just by wearing gloves because it gets all over you. I'd be amazed if they didn't test for that, and also very suspicious.

For clarity, I'm not suggesting that Lance The Tranny was the one who pulled the trigger, nor that he was at the scene of the shooting. Just floating the possibility (likelihood?) that Lance and Tyler may have plotted the shooting together, or that Lance knew what Tyler was going to do.

If Mrs DreinMeinVein sent me out to do her/our dirtywork, and I didn't want her to get in any trouble for it, then perhaps the first thing I'd do post-deed is write a confession to her about what I'd done.

I'm not saying that's what definitely happened. It's more that Tyler's most likely motive for killing C.Kirk was because of his views on trannies. The shot was fired immediately after Kirk mentioned trannies. If trannies were the motive, it puts Lance in the frame too. Apart from a murder weapon and CCTV, Tyler left nothing behind but a thread of messages implying that his boyfriend knew nothing about it all. That way, should Tyler get ID'd, Lance can show the texts to "prove" he knew nothing.

As a suspicious thinker, it seems a bit sus to me. If the motive was to appease a crazy tranny he was in love with, it would be no great shock if the crazy tranny was somehow involved.

These chat log leaks prove one important thing: the tranny is crazy, even by tranny standards. Not just the "she is cooperating with LEOs" narrative we had before. Now we know that the troon was a madman, it seems much more likely to be a folie à deux.

 

[Stabby_Pencil]

Idk how but having a relationship with a brain rotted goon troon trying to be a woman somehow comes off as gayer than if Tyler just dated a standard gay guy.

Wait, if we start calling men extra gay for being in relationships with troons, what would happen?

 

[Sabrina]

The leaks end abruptly 1 month before the shooting (except for Tyler‘s confession). Barely any political content is shown, with Tom emphasising how apolitical the group was. There certainly is more to it than what was made public.

The leaker is so obnoxiously concerned with MTG that they fail to build a linear narrative, relying on episodic events and descriptions centered around the game.

The leaker fails to demonstrate how Lance‘s deteriorating mental state influenced Tyler to commit the shooting. Charlie Kirk isn’t even mentioned on the messages. It appears that there‘s an intent of shifting the blame from Tyler to Lance. It’s like a gay Netflix adaptation of Macbeth.

Yeah and this was going on in T Tom's previous video of the situation where the whole thing just ends up being Lance. It seems like Tyler just doesn't do anything like a 25yo virgin would do. He doesn't chat he's probably real quiet IRL.

How did he get radicalized? Just from Lance's faggotry indoctrinating him? Did Lance just use Tyler to be the fall guy? It's seeming likely. So far I don't think he's said enough to implicate himself but with enough evidence he could be hit with conspiracy to commit murder or anything of that nature. Has Lance stopped posting? I don't remember if that was clear in the video

 

[Unimaginative Username]

I'm actually shocked that they were sufficiently responsible to use condoms.

I wouldn't be terribly surprised if the troon demanded it because he didn't want any dregs of testosterone in Low-T Tyler's jizz to be absorbed into his dainty "female" bloodstream.

 

[Kulee Baba]

Yeah and this was going on in T Tom's previous video of the situation where the whole thing just ends up being Lance. It seems like Tyler just doesn't do anything like a 25yo virgin would do. He doesn't chat he's probably real quiet IRL.

How did he get radicalized? Just from Lance's faggotry indoctrinating him? Did Lance just use Tyler to be the fall guy? It's seeming likely. So far I don't think he's said enough to implicate himself but with enough evidence he could be hit with conspiracy to commit murder or anything of that nature. Has Lance stopped posting? I don't remember if that was clear in the video

Remember that violent offenders are usually low IQ thugs with poor impulse control. Thinking that they have grand motives is often just a reaction to them being able to pull off something so catastrophic.

 

[DominoPetachi]

I have to agree with the sentiment that the "leaks" unfortunately don't really provide any novel, valuable insight into the shooting itself. It was pretty obvious early on from a cursory examination of Tyler and his friend group that they were exactly the type of crowd everyone was expecting. Really, all I learned was that these faggots are somehow even more repulsive than I initially believed.

That said, I'm leaning towards the theory that the leaker is just a scorned autist who wanted an opportunity to talk about Lance, mostly because it's hard for me to imagine these people being sophisticated enough to carry out such an op when it's not like they really have to, anyways; I feel like most people have stopped questioning whether or not anyone else was complicit in the shooting. It's hard to say anyways when we're almost certainly dealing with a clique of terminally online degenerates who get together on Discord and decide to do shit like this on a whim, rather than an actual coordinated group.

I also agree that there's still several unanswered questions concerning the messages between Lance and Tyler but, as with many aspects of the case, they could just be dismissed as a matter of mentally unwell faggots being themselves. What I'm really wondering is what Lance is up to currently because he still hasn't touched his Steam account despite the fact that it's been over a month, and he still gets dozens of comments everyday from bots or people telling him he's a faggot and that he's on the news, the farms, etc. I would've expected him to DFE by now considering everyone else did a while ago and it's hard to imagine he's been disallowed from using his computer for this long.

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He’s likely up to the same looney shit on new accounts. How many people scrap their online persona when shit gets too hot and make a new one so they can start over again? The thing is, if he’s truly as mentally ill as he is presenting himself to be, he will eventually be outed by his own mania. However, if he’s really just a narcissistic psychopath faking schizophrenia then he might be able to keep up the charade for a while, but genuine ASPDers, particularly narcissists always tell on themselves eventually. They can’t help themselves, especially when the gas tank is low, so he won’t be able to hide forever.

 

[Vibe_Guy]

I’m a faggot (not tranny) and I have a deck builders toolkit sitting in front of me that I bought like a decade ago and actually found the other day by chance—

but I fell out with the straight bud I was crushing on and who was supposed to teach me how to play.
We were both still teens so he was not feeling the desperation of being touch starved at that point.

You’re telling me I have a better chance now that I’m older? It’s a sign since I just found this buried in shit when cleaning out the other day omg

You are literally the caricature of a severely horny porn brained gay person who learned social interaction trough porn acting. I refuse to believe any gay man who has his shit together would read this and say "trueeeeeeeeeeee!". They would most likely say "what the fuck is wrong with this person?"

I....hate... the person you choose to be at the time of writing this.

 

[DreinMeinVein]

Basic shot? Yeah right you kike faggot.

Random faggot just got up with his rifle which had untraceable parts and publicly (full of adrenalin, shaky hands) shot someone in the neck then escaped the heavy police presence and federal manhunt for 3 days. Totally wasnt done by a trained professional

I've said this before, soon after Kirk's murder. It's a bit PL but I'll say it again.

.My wife hates guns. She'd never seen a rifle/airfifle/BB gun before, and had never even fired a Nerf. First ever go, scared shitless, she hit torso sized targets a hundred metres away. She used an AR15 with a RDS. She had so much adrenaline she cried afterwards.
Shooting bullets isn't some kind of leet skill. Point and click. Trained snipers are much more impressive than simply hitting a body across the green.

Evading the police for three whole days? Difficult!? C'mon dude. The shooter pissed his pants and told his daddy within 72h of being spotted on CCTV.

 

[Rolex]

I've said this before, soon after Kirk's murder. It's a bit PL but I'll say it again.

.My wife hates guns. She'd never seen a rifle/airfifle/BB gun before, and had never even fired a Nerf. First ever go, scared shitless, she hit torso sized targets a hundred metres away. She used an AR15 with a RDS. She had so much adrenaline she cried afterwards.
Shooting bullets isn't some kind of leet skill. Point and click. Trained snipers are much more impressive than simply hitting a body across the green.

Evading the police for three whole days? Difficult!? C'mon dude. The shooter pissed his pants and told his daddy within 72h of being spotted on CCTV.

Good example. Adding to it, AR-15s are less accurate than a dialed 30-06 hunting rifle as well. Tyler is also an experienced hunter.

For the first time since this all started, I'm actually feeling fairly confident in the official narrative. Not saying some third party didn't further groom him in private chats or something, but I'm 99% convinced this freak did it of his own volition after a constant diet of psychadelics (some homebrew I'm sure), mold spores, and sodomy. Dude was a raider from Fallout shacked up with a clicker from the Last of Us.

 

[Super Mario Brothers]

I once knew someone that was just like Tyler. An online friend, but he used to be normal until he obsessed over his "Lance." Eventually he lost his shit at me because I dared to have any heretical opinions about the trans cult. I don't know what became of him and don't want to find out, but there are at least a million guys like him prowling around on places like Discord and Reddit. Chasers seem to be as nutty as the trans people they lust after, and even then will usually end up trooning out themselves.