Can generational welfare nigs be rehabilitated into productive members of society?

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Betonhaus

Betonhaus

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Betonhaus said:
All indications are that it's impossible to teach them that they get money for good work, they have to be led by the nose the entire time otherwise they don't work and don't get paid. Ending EBT will cause mass starvation and rioting like what breadbassket mentioned:

With the majority of niggers we have the following options:
1. continue to give them massive amounts of welfare to sit around and do nothing
2. force them to work (aka slavery)
3. kill them all (considered a no-no at this time)
3. ship them back to their home countries (where they will be immediately killed or turned into slaves, unless they flee to other countries and collect welfare)

it may be possible to make some of them into productive members of society, but only a small number and only if you put a lot of work into it. It would be less work to make the fat white neet people work by sending them to a fat camp for a few months then getting them into a hard work trade. There's plenty of stories about charities trying to improve the lives of Africans in their own countries by helping them set up farms and work, and then those plans fall apart as soon as the charities stop trying to get the Africans to work.
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WelperHelper99 said:
Make the niggas swing a fucking mop. Stock some shelves. They'll learn.
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WelperHelper99 said:
They don't because of low expectations. This is the kick in the ass. The smart ones will figure it out. The idiots get arrested. Also you are Canadian. Doesn't affect you
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I do not believe it is possible to rehabilitate the majority of them and get them to work for their income instead of relying on welfare and gibs to get by
 
There's people who rise out of the trailer parks and slums - they do it on their own volition. Just like prison the system doesn't rehabilitate people - people rehabilitate themselves.
 
Put them to work on the lowest rungs and they will realize what the white man has been dealing with. If they want gibs they should work for it. Go mop a floor or stock a shelf. Learn what earning money of your own is like. Niggers don't know that. But they can learn. Or they can starve/get arrested. Their choice
 
There’s very little evidence black people will better their circumstances. That’s not a U.S. thing, it’s literally everywhere. You always have individuals that can and do, but in every nation where there is a +8% of blacks, a not insignificant portion of them are living on governmental benefit, often for generations.

In their own African nations, no real benefits exist so it’s just poverty and violence. Look at the doom and gloom about USAID not continuing to provide food, medicine, education and other basic human needs like clean water to African countries. The U.S. was paying and staffing all of it through shady NGO’s. According to the international bodies, white people and their money is required for these millions of people who have inhabited their land for thousands of years to survive at all.

As a race, they show very little ability to survive within first world modern societies without being cared for as if they are toddlers white peoples are obligated to support.
 
Point and Laugh said:
There’s very little evidence black people will better their circumstances. That’s not a U.S. thing, it’s literally everywhere. You always have individuals that can and do, but in every nation where there is a +8% of blacks, a not insignificant portion of them are living on governmental benefit, often for generations.

In their own African nations, no real benefits exist so it’s just poverty and violence. Look at the doom and gloom about USAID not continuing to provide food, medicine, education and other basic human needs like clean water to African countries. The U.S. was paying and staffing all of it through shady NGO’s. According to the international bodies, white people and their money is required for these millions of people who have inhabited their land for thousands of years to survive at all.

As a race, they show very little ability to survive within first world modern societies without being cared for as if they are toddlers white peoples are obligated to support.
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They are US citizens, not just random Africans. They know the expectations. They CAN learn. Their ancestors did. The welfare state gutted them. They need to figure out what Lyndon B Johnson took from them. Making them get jobs is a first step
 
IMO the biggest issue with getting anyone off the free money train, especially multi-generation welfare niggers, is getting them to the point where they are paid enough to make the work seem worth while.

Right now in the United States the average welfare income is $28,500, and the federal minimum wage is $7.25/hr. A 40hr work week on minimum wage equates to $290, multiplied by 56 weeks that's $16,240 a year before taxes.

No one in their right mind would voluntarily lose over 40% of their income to do more work.

Even if we end up with the $15/hr minimum wage that people have been clamoring for, that's still only $33,600 before taxes for the year. Which means you're asking niggers who havent had an honest days work in generations to work 40 or more hours per week to gain an additional $5,100 per year IF you also don't tax them on it. I call that a tough sell.

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So what are our options here?

1. Do nothing and leave the system alone, which doesn't solve the problem.

2. Cut Welfare entirely, which results in violence and riots that will probably end up costing more than welfare itself.

3. Make Welfare worse to the point that a taxed wage is more appealing, but not so much worse it results in riots. This would be difficult, risky, and not guaranteed to produce the desired results.

4. Artificially inflate minimum wage and/or provide bullshit jobs to pay enough more than welfare that niggers find them worth doing. This could also cost more than welfare as it is, and is only giving them the appearance of productive members of society.

5. Any of the meme options like slavery, mass deportations, "final solution" approach, etc.

6. Since slavery is still legal for prisoners, we enforce the laws on the crimes the majority of them are committing with arrests, and sentence them to hard labor picking cotton in Angola or whatever. This would be a massive legal headache to get through due process and appeals, but might actually be the only feasible way to get results.
 
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Re-enslave them. We are either going to Mars or getting boiled alive.
 
You’re not going to get a serious answer I’m afraid. The answer is yes, anything is possible. But there is a big, multi-billion dollar obstacle in your way.

In memes, it is very popular to use the simile of how blacks and other browns are Lord of the Ring orcs, and whites are the men of Rohan and Gondor. This is actually more accurate than you think. According to Tolkien’s own in-universe lore, the orcs were once elves but corrupted. Enslaved, then tormented and twisted by Melkor.

And the ones who corrupted blacks in our world were the left. But people immediately get bored when that point is brought up, so that’s about all I will say.

They are as much victims as you or I am. But when you focus hatred on blacks, you are merely focusing on the weapon of your foe. Your enemy is not his weapon. Focus on your foe himself.

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It would be harder to rehabilitate them than opioid zombies in Appalachia (similar social strata for whites), and functionally impossible in modern America.
Any government initiative to force generational welfare dependents into the workforce would just become like any other attempt to get these people to stop abusing social services intended for actual hardship, not cultural sloth:
-Fake jobs to satisfy working requirements
-A whole slew of NGOs sucking up at the government teat to run the program and perpetuate its existence
-Funding for the program becomes an albatross around the government's neck that cannot be cut and is fundamentally hostile to outside reform.
 
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Jesus Christ.

I do not think that they can be rehabilitated tbh, this is largely because of the mindset they seem to have. From the TikToks I have seen, they legit believe they are entitled to it, and it appears(I had NO idea this was the case before) that some people are on EBT and SNAP GENERATIONALLY. This does not apply entirely to black folk despite what chuddies say, so this is a country wide issue.

How did it get to this?
 
babyDunk said:
How did it get to this?
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The economics of the post I made above apply to everyone, not just niggers.

Unless you're raised to value an honest days work, and be ashamed of taking handouts, the value proposition of low wage work does not compare favorably to the average welfare income.

A $15/hr wage for 40hr/wk of work gets you $33,600 before taxes. It falls in a 12% tax bracket, so the Government is taking $4,032 of that back, netting you $29,568, or $29.5k for short.

The average welfare income is $28.5k, and its not taxable.

So let me ask, would you rather?

A. Do nothing for $28.5k

B. Work at least 40 hours a week for an extra grand
 
WelperHelper99 said:
Put them to work on the lowest rungs and they will realize what the white man has been dealing with. If they want gibs they should work for it. Go mop a floor or stock a shelf. Learn what earning money of your own is like. Niggers don't know that. But they can learn. Or they can starve/get arrested. Their choice
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I'd bet you over half of the welfare queens would be fired in under a month for having a chimpout at work if they're expected to adhere to the White Man's standards. They will be trash at the job, and any pushback from their superiors about how they suck and need to improve, or sass from a customer will set them off, because they're used to being allowed to shuffle around all day doing absolutely nothing other than consoooooming.

Unfortunately, going cold turkey on the gibs would only work if the average citizen gets the Florida green light on defending themselves from the criminals and receive police backing. Otherwise there'd be another Summer of Love in store, and every blue state and city would just let it burn until the moderates capitulate to the bleeding hearts and demons.

Weaning would be required, maybe reduce the gains by 10-20% for all each year until it's cheaper to give them their weekly rations of rice, beans, and cheap cut of meat than a card. Continue reducing the available luxuries that can be purchased and prosecute any fraud to the fullest extent of the law, including fines, jailtime, and a permanent banning from welfare benefits, and block welfare redemption for the store as well.
I did somewhat like the idea of limited child support someone else mentioned. Only subsidizing for one or two kids seems like a good way to curb the ridiculous baby factory schemes. Maybe giving 2 years per mother of full family coverage which then rapidly tapers off, allowing temporarily poor people to catch themselves. Though this might not be needed if the gibs are bare necessities.

The program is to be used to help someone through tough times, not live on permanently, and beggars can't be choosers, and if they are, they probably don't need it in the first place. At the end of the day, you'd need the Democrats to not impede you for an extended period of time, or like the devouring mother, they'll fuck everything up by opening the floodgates completely whenever they return to power.
 
Send them all back to Liberia and let those that are actually worth anything apply for visas. If they never overcome their current condition let that be their problem. If some of them become productive and non-violent they can attempt to compete with the rest of the world to come here 🌈

In any case, it's not an experiment we should pay for, either with our taxes or our personal safety. Let them care for themselves, or not.

Clarence Thomas can stay. He already proved himself.
 
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