Debate SSJ ness if a 13 year old girl, a pedophiles victim, should be called a slut or not . - SSJ NESS HAS HIS MIDLIFE CRISIS DEBATE THREAD , please be patient with him he is childless womanless haggot

[Tablet County]

Sooo... I think this topic needs a name change, since its no longer possible to debate SSJ_Ness.

Or you could let it die.

 

[demicolon]

its no longer possible to debate SSJ_Ness.

...challenge accepted.

 

[Smoltine Kiminal]

It's one thing to say that about a girl when you yourself are in middle school. It's an entirely different thing to say that about a 13yo when you're an adult.

most of us will remember early teenage girls (13 / 14) that would date & sleep with older guys (late teens / early 20's) in exchange for drugs or alcohol
no matter if they can not legally consent, and no matter that the older guy is using his drugs as a carrot to entice her is acting immoral himself, the girls still had agency and agreed to open their legs for booze out of free will, and that makes them sluts, no matter how old they are, no matter if they where raised by a whore mother etc.

rape is obviously an entirely different thing tho

>inb4 50 replies by angry roasties that opend their legs when they where 13 to get some booze

 

[2 Faces 2 Colours]

most of us will remember early teenage girls (13 / 14) that would date & sleep with older guys (late teens / early 20's) in exchange for drugs or alcohol
no matter if they can not legally consent, and no matter that the older guy is using his drugs as a carrot to entice her is acting immoral himself, the girls still had agency and agreed to open their legs for booze out of free will, and that makes them sluts, no matter how old they are, no matter if they where raised by a whore mother etc.

rape is obviously an entirely different thing tho

Where do you creatures keep crawling out from?

most of us will remember early teenage girls (13 / 14) that would date & sleep with older guys (late teens / early 20's) in exchange for drugs or alcohol
no matter if they can not legally consent

I don’t remember that at all actually, do you live in like Africa or something?

 

[Smoltine Kiminal]

I don’t remember that at all actually, do you live in like Africa or something?

europe
where do you come from? did you grow up rural?
we have lower age of consent here too

of course i am full aware that the only objectively correct morals for every god-believing conservative are the anglo-american ones from 20 years ago, which means women can only consent to sex starting with the exact second they turn 18 years old, and trooning out childrens is probably wrong, but still open for discussion if the parents should have a say on it, but cutting off the tip of newborn penises is the only right thing to do, and the only objectively correct age to allow alcohol consumption is 21 years old, and not one day younger

 

[2 Faces 2 Colours]

europe
where do you come from? did you grow up rural?

I’m British, from a city. Obviously the action of the young girls are immortal but how are you going to be a grown adult and go around calling them whores or whatever, instead of calling out the predatory environment in which he grew up in. They still have plenty of time to be set on the right path.

of course i am full aware that the only objectively correct morals for every god-believing conservative are the anglo-american ones from 20 years ago, which means women can only consent to sex starting with the exact second they turn 18 years old, and trooning out childrens is probably wrong, but still open for discussion if the parents should have a say on it, but cutting off the tip of newborn penises is the only right thing to do, and the only objectively correct age to allow alcohol consumption is 21 years old, and not one day younger

Waiting until a girl is 18 is the bare minimum. If you’re still a much older man like, 40 or something, I would consider him dating an 18 year old girl pretty immoral IMO even if it’s not paedophilia.

 

[Smoltine Kiminal]

how are you going to be a grown adult and go around calling them whores or whatever

im not going around calling them anything, why tf would i talk to 13 year old girls i dont even know?
im just triggered by the roasties here making blanket statements that no 13 year old is ever a slut, just because they where massive sluts when they where 13

Waiting until a girl is 18 is the bare minimum.

in burgerland it is, most of europe is 16
its a number that was just chosen just because, its not some kind of divine truth like normies make it out

40 or something

yea, thats creepy.
but 16 year old girl and early 20's guy?
dont see the problem really

 

[Helvítis Túristi]

most of us will remember early teenage girls (13 / 14) that would date & sleep with older guys (late teens / early 20's) in exchange for drugs or alcohol

The giving of drugs and gifts is a common grooming tactic. Using the drugs to impair the girls for sex is also rape. As teenagers we see these girls' behaviors as being slutty. But as adults, we are more knowledgeable and are aware the girls have shitty parents making them vulnerable to self destructive behavior. Also, Null has mentioned this divide by half and add 8 rule. That honestly seems to be the best gauge on determining if an age gap is creepy or not.

 

[Jacknife]

most of us will remember early teenage girls (13 / 14) that would date & sleep with older guys (late teens / early 20's) in exchange for drugs or alcohol

I remember literally one mentally unwell 14-15 year old girl that got groomed, in a large part with alcohol, by a group of about six 20-25 year-olds.

She got called whore, bitch, slut a bunch of times by her peers since she also acted rather abrasive and arrogant to everyone else all of a sudden.

Probably her abusers told her how mature she was and everything.
I remember her talking about buying lube, not for anal but vaginal intercourse - which to me indicates that she wasn't even aroused during which indicates coercion.

the girls still had agency and agreed to open their legs for booze out of free will, and that makes them sluts, no matter how old they are

You fucking imbecile, age of consent literally means they have NOT complete agency and free will over when to open their legs.

There is an argument about 16 vs 18 but definetely not below that, also if alcohol plays a role, nesflash that can take the ability to consent away entirely since alcohol is also 18+ you retard.

retarded rambling about age of consent, trooning children, bla bla bla

Stop the diversion faggot

 

[Smoltine Kiminal]

Using the drugs to impair the girls for sex is also rape

sometimes, but most teenage girls that look for drugs from their older "boyfriend" know full well what they do

As teenagers we see these girls' behaviors as being slutty. But as adults, we are more knowledgeable and are aware the girls have shitty parents making them vulnerable to self destructive behavior.

they might have some messed up surroundings that set them up to be sluts, but they are still sluts

divide by half and add 8 rule

its divide by half and add 7, and its a good rule of thumb, far more reasonable than that stupid 18 year limit, but exceptions still exists

age of consent literally means they have NOT complete agency and free will

wrong, its a purely legal definition, not a philosophical or ethical one

 

[cockaine]

im not going around calling them anything, why tf would i talk to 13 year old girls i dont even know?
im just triggered by the roasties here making blanket statements that no 13 year old is ever a slut, just because they where massive sluts when they where 13

in burgerland it is, most of europe is 16
its a number that was just chosen just because, its not some kind of divine truth like normies make it out

yea, thats creepy.
but 16 year old girl and early 20's guy?
dont see the problem really

Yo who'd you vote for?

 

[alphabetnigger]

16 year old girl and early 20's guy?

Is this thread about to out a third pedophile?

 

[Mister Fister]

This thread is a perfect retard magnet, like a hungry woodchipper posted it.

 

[Jacknife]

wrong, its a purely legal definition, not a philosophical or ethical one

Well there are people who might argue that these laws have their basis in philosophy and ethics but I am happy to entertain this.

If 13 year-olds can consent, why would an adult, let us narrow it down to a 20-29 year-old, even be doing anything wrong by fucking them?

 

[Helvítis Túristi]

they might have some messed up surroundings that set them up to be sluts, but they are still sluts

If you had a daughter, would you want her to be a slut or have some self respect? Not going to go too deep into it, but slutty behavior is almost always a sign of mental problems. It's why those roasties are psychotic. If a teenager is exhibiting self destructive behavior, do you think there should be an intervention to try to course correct? Or should we just leave them to the sharks?

 

[Smoltine Kiminal]

Is this thread about to out a third pedophile?

>she was 17 years 364 day 23 hours and 59 minutes you sick pedophile

Well there are people who might argue that these laws have their basis in philosophy and ethics

they are literally made up by pedophile satanists, who dont apply them to themselves either

If you had a daughter, would you want her to be a slut or have some self respect?

of course i wouldnt want her to be a slut

If a teenager is exhibiting self destructive behavior, do you think there should be an intervention to try to course correct?

to recognize the behaviour as self-destructive you have to recognize that the girl in question is a slut and has agency, if she didnt have agency it would be something that was simply done to her
but thats not the case, you can only realistically intervene by making her want to change herself, if you just go after her drug dealer / the guy who buys her booze she will find a new one in a week
teenagers are not little children that can, and should, be fully shielded from the world, they need to learn live in it themselves, you can only give limited input

It's why those roasties are psychotic

they are psychotic because they cant ever accept any kind of accountability for their own actions

 

[Grimoire Canthari]

Inb4 three-peat of pedo banning

 

[DYLAN ‘DIELAWN’ VOLK]

13 years old shouldn't even have total internet access.

 

[Jason_Cruiser]

This thread is exposing way more pedophiles than I expected. It's at like what, three now? SSJ, Big new poster and Smoltine Kiminal(Soon).

 

[Meat Target]

But what if the child consents?