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Gonna be real if I was staff I wouldnt want to handle vtuber gifts.
Same but if they're going to do meet and greets, whatever else for VTubers there probably should be some sort of process like most other conventions have. Like bro, throw it in a room for the person to pickup on the last day or something because it's obviously not a bomb if you're throwing it in a bin near everyone. If they pick it up, they pick it up & if they don't throw it out after the convention.
 
Same but if they're going to do meet and greets, whatever else for VTubers there probably should be some sort of process like most other conventions have.
The process should be the same as getting gifts to normal streamers, as well. This isn't a new idea, none of the Vtubers who had meet and greats lacked a manager who could deal with pick up, there is no excuse for the fuck up outside the complete and obvious incompetence of Twitchcon staff.
Honestly I'm just waiting for the twist that staff purposely "threw" shit away just to steal some of the gifts.
 
Dan Clancy exhibits all the behaviors of a sociopath. The only people Clancy would hire are other sociopaths that will 'yes man' him, so this is what you end up with. Twitch is basically a dead man walking.

The only thing keeping them alive is the sheer size of Amazon and them not caring about losing money on it. But that really depends how much money they're losing and what the upside of Twitch is. Twitch has already contracted by ~50% by some measures and probably has significant costs in OpEx and CapEx. CapEx Amazon may care less about, because it basically just gets re-invested into them through hosting Twitch on AWS. But the OpEx will eat them alive unless they start laying off Twitch staff, which basically just reinforces a negative feedback loop. Layoffs cause the quality of Twitch as a platform and its moderation to get worse, which will cause more people to leave, which will cause more Twitch layoffs, etc. Only way out of this type of death spiral is a large capital infusion and a complete restructuring of Twitch management from the top down, which I doubt will be done.

Amazon's 10Q specifically calls out their acquisitions as a risk.

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I'm getting the feeling Twitch hates vtubers. Over the years they keep being very inconsistent and heavy handed with them and now this. I'm assuming coomer Dan's e-girl protection only extends to run of the mill e-thots and not the virtual ones
 
I'm getting the feeling Twitch hates vtubers. Over the years they keep being very inconsistent and heavy handed with them and now this. I'm assuming coomer Dan's e-girl protection only extends to run of the mill e-thots and not the virtual ones
Your old school e-thots fucking hate them because a vtuber can roll out of bed, fire up her rig and start streaming with bird's nest hair and bags under her eyes and look as perfect as always. And those old school e-thots built Twitch.
 
Your old school e-thots fucking hate them because a vtuber can roll out of bed, fire up her rig and start streaming with bird's nest hair and bags under her eyes and look as perfect as always. And those old school e-thots built Twitch.
I remember when vtubers were just starting to get big, so many e-whores were furious over it. Good times
 
How many air tags and GPS trackers do you guys think were in those gifts?
Yeah, the more I think about it, this is probably standard. Food is obviously getting thrown out, but even for physical items, do you really want to take a chance? Even if they just donate the stuff, do you really want to take a chance that some random person gets sent home with an airtag meant to stalk a vtuber?

I'm guessing some fans caught them doing it, so Iron Mouse felt like she had to get out ahead of it.
 
Yeah, the more I think about it, this is probably standard. Food is obviously getting thrown out, but even for physical items, do you really want to take a chance? Even if they just donate the stuff, do you really want to take a chance that some random person gets sent home with an airtag meant to stalk a vtuber?
While I understand where you're coming from, if this was standard, people would say so, It wouldn't be shocking news. You don't throw out everything just because it might have a tracker, they can check these things. (I don't know the full logistics but I swear I remember hearing a streamer talk about how they check any and all gifts before taking them anywhere not publicly known.)
I'm guessing some fans caught them doing it, so Iron Mouse felt like she had to get out ahead of it.
Ironmouse didn't break the news, both Henya's and Kuro's tweets predate hers by at least a hour.
 
Far be it from me to give a fuck about Ironmouse Twitch con fans, but the staff are fucking morons. If you don't want/can't handle the gifts just tell people you're not accepting them. Taking stuff off people just to bin it is kind of stupid especially since many of those retards probably put some pricey stuff inside. Let them take it back and deliver to their oshi by some other means or at least get a refund.
 
Vtubers shouldn't visit TwitchCon at all (X | A). Or rather don't attend any cons at all.
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Unrelated to the current goings on, but on the topic of Gator, I have a rrat I've been cooking up.
The reason Gator (of Ethan Ralph fame) dropped his 'The Gator Gamer' persona a month or so ago was at the direct request of Sakana and Phase Connect. They didn't want Gator's stink fucking with Nitya Nil's SEO and debut. If someone types "gator gamer" into google, they would want Nitya to pop up, not some gay tweet from Gaydur. And Gator is a v-tuber simp, he would definitely do it if asked.
I don't think they would waste the time. Plus they risk revealing details about one of their talents early that could be leaked. He has the stench of Tha Sektor on him.
Vtubers shouldn't visit TwitchCon at all (X | A). Or rather don't attend any cons at all.
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I don't get why vtubers who go to this shit in person make a spectacle about it then act shocked when they get treated like every other famous streamer there with the risk of crazy stalker fans finding them. No one should have to worry about that shit sure, but Twitchcon's consistently dropped the ball when it comes to safety & security of all their streamers. They've shown consistently they don't care about vtubers unless they make them shitloads of money. The fewer people who know you're going to Twitchcon, the better frankly.
From what I hear most people that go to this shit don't even go for the cons, they go to meet people at parties or hang out in the city. Why are you telling your audience you're going to a con & then get surprised parasocial fans show up?
 
On one hand, any gift a Vtuber fan hands you should immediately be incinerated a safe distance from civilized people
On the other hand, yet another PR distaster for Danny boy to deal with, and i' loving every second of it
 
At least some of the Phase stuff is there as well:
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At what point did the name change happen, at the time she joined Phase or was it later? If it was later, it would appear that she has been allowed to recover everything with the "Amaris" name.
She was Amaris Yuri during her time at Cyberlive, and was changed to Fuura Yuri once joining Phase.
 
Some Vtuber got a GPS tracker in one and a guy tried to break into her home so fuck that.
Regardless of that being the case, they could have just communicated that "due to security reasons, we cannot send gifts to Ironmouse". It really isn't that fucking complicated.
The issue here is that they said "sure we will take them" and throw them in the trash.
 
That was Camilla, dude was using a sledgehammer on her door when cops arrived.
that guy has seen camilla right? this is the first time i heard someone falling in love with a fat turkroachess.
If someone types "gator gamer" into google, they would want Nitya to pop up, not some gay tweet from Gaydur. And Gator is a v-tuber simp, he would definitely do it if asked.
thats kinda dumb since its gen 4. no one's going to know who nitya is and theyre not going to remember who she was before.
 
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