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Should be a wild four years.

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The Democrats’ Heterodoxy Problem
The Atlantic (archive.ph)
By Elaine Godfrey
They can't moderate because it's not about a primary election anymore. The radical left is violently radicalized. They will start occupying, shooting, and burning in the cities. They are fully capable of treating the local police the way they treat ICE. Then, what do the Democrats say when they have to either let those videos go out or ask Trump for the NG? It's lose lose for their credibility. They are long overdue for a Sistah Souljah moment but the only one with the standing to do it is Obama but he is not going to do it. He would rather let it all burn than give Trump a centimeter.
 
Clearing out some bookmarks from last week.

Gavin Newsom claims he’s ‘punching back’ at ‘son of a bitch’ Joe Rogan in vulgar plea to appear on his show: ‘Have me on’
New York Post (archive.ph)
By Brad Appleton
2025-10-11 00:14:43GMT
Chest-puffing California Gov. Gavin Newsom boasted that he was “punching back” at “son of a bitch” Joe Rogan as he made an expletive-filled plea for an invite on the podcaster’s popular show.

Appearing on the YouTube show “Higher Learning” on Friday, the camera-ready Newsom went on the attack against Rogan — who recently bashed him as a “bulls–t artist” that’s ruined California.

“Joe, why won’t you have me on the show?” Newsom griped to hosts Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay in a clip teasing the episode.



“He won’t have me on the show. It’s a one way and he has guests coming on, attacking and bashing, but he won’t have me on the show. Full stop. He should have me on the show.”

Newsom was then asked if he’d try to keep Rogan in check, calling out issues he’s had with comments Rogan made in the past.

“I’m not afraid to go — I’m punching Joe Rogan, that son of a bitch is not used to that,” the Democrat spouted.

“He’s gonna dismiss it, he’s gonna laugh it off, tough guy and all that. But is he gonna have me on? I don’t know.”

The Golden State guv was fired up by recent attacks from Rogan, who’s pointed out that Newsom wants to be president “sooo bad.”

“You can’t ruin a city and then go on to ruin a state and then say, ‘Guys, that was just practice. Once I get in as president I’m going to fix it all,” Rogan said, later calling him a “bulls–t artist.”

In the teaser for “Higher Learning,” Newsom also remarked, “I’m the only governor who can claim this. I got a lot of s–t for this,” prompting Lathan to laugh, “I love that you didn’t ask me if you could curse.”

“Oh, sorry,” Newsom said with a smile.

“Well, you start with Joe Rogan, I’m gonna start cursing.”

In the same interview, Newsom aimed at his own party in terms of getting people to go out and vote.

“Where the hell is the Democratic party? Where’s our equivalent of Turning Point USA? Nowhere to be found,” he said.
For Trump, media manipulation is his show of force
The Washington Post (archive.ph)
By Sarah Ellison
2025-10-11 21:55:02GMT
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For Trump, media manipulation is his show of force © Eric Lee/For The Washington Post

President Donald Trump has long railed against the “fake news” as an “enemy of the people.” But this week, the president showed how far he has come in finding a new use for the media: as props.

Friendly influencers were summoned to the White House on Wednesday afternoon, as they have been throughout Trump’s second term, to bolster his agenda and attack his targets of the moment. Reporters from mainstream news organizations remained part of the presentation, but mostly as silent foils and heels to be disparaged and critiqued.

“I read more of your stories than I do theirs,” FBI Director Kash Patel told the influencers, gesturing to the reporters at the back of the room, “because you guys are putting out the truth.”

That televised interplay, made possible by the splintered media environment and Trump’s knack for exploiting public mistrust, has allowed Trump and his aides to manipulate public perceptions of the news in ways that their predecessors would not have attempted, or imagined. Trump has marshaled the levers of government to punish outlets and reporters he deems overly critical while finding ways to integrate a new genre of friendly reporters into curated presentations that have the look and feel of news — even if they essentially serve as extensions of his policy pitches.

This week’s example was among the most striking.

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From left, conservative influencers Jack Posobiec, Nick Sortor and Julio Rosas at Wednesday's White House roundtable. © Francis Chung/Pool/EPA/Shutterstock

Just weeks after threatening to pull licenses from broadcast network stations whose late-night comedians he deemed overly critical of him, the president invited influencers friendly to his hard-line immigration policy to an event targeting antifa, a far-left decentralized global movement whose proponents oppose fascism, sometimes militantly.

The conservative influencers were part of the event, presented as putatively independent sources to tell their own stories and validate Trump’s case that antifa is a domestic terror organization whose associates should be prosecuted.

Trump called them “courageous journalists” and described at least some as “victims of antifa attacks.” He quizzed them on which of the traditional news networks was “the worst” and then weighed in with his own list of grievances against the mainstream media.

The assembled influencers were set apart as the real truth-tellers. “They’re reporting the stories live time because the mainstream media won’t cover it,” Patel said.

Some of them had accepted Homeland Security Secretary Kristi L. Noem’s offer to embed with immigration raids and have recorded altercations with protesters objecting — sometimes aggressively — to the enforcement tactics.

“While public trust in the legacy media just plummeted to a new low, President Trump is giving a voice to independent journalists who actually care about uncovering and reporting the truth,” White House spokesperson Liz Huston said in a statement.

Highlighting those conservative new-media personalities to bolster his controversial immigration crackdown is the latest example of Trump using creators to amplify his message.

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Special envoy Steve Witkoff joined Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Vice President JD Vance at Trump's side on Monday's meeting in the Oval Office with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. © Tom Brenner/For the Washington Post

In February, when Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky visited the Oval Office in his usual military-style attire, Brian Glenn, the White House bureau chief for the right-wing outlet Real America’s Voice, helped set the stage for a shouting match between Trump and Zelensky.

“You’re at the highest level in this country’s office, and you refuse to wear a suit,” Glenn told Zelensky, “a lot of Americans have problems with you not respecting the dignity of this office.”

Glenn did not respond to a request for comment.

The administration also leaned on influencers in February as part of an early attempt to deliver a campaign promise to release records related to deceased sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

Attorney General Pam Bondi invited right-wing content creators to the White House and handed them binders labeled “The Epstein Files: Phase 1.” They posed for a photo, but the effort backfired when the binders were revealed to contain mostly old information, and the administration tried to limit the release of records.

Previous presidents, even those such as Ronald Reagan, who was famous for aggressively shaping his public image, “knew that the press had a job to do, even if they didn’t like the reporters,” said Frank Sesno, a former White House bureau chief for CNN and a professor at George Washington University School of Media and Public Affairs.

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Members of the media attend a Cabinet meeting on Thursday at the White House. © Sarah L. Voisin/The Washington Post

Larry Speakes, a chief Reagan White House spokesman, had a sign on his desk that read: “You don’t tell us how to stage the news and we don’t tell you how to cover it.”

“That’s not how Donald Trump sees it,” said Sesno, who argued that Trump wants to direct both the staging and the reporting of the news.

In late February, the White House took control of the press pool, a small, rotating group of news organizations that covers events on behalf of the larger press corps. At the time, press secretary Karoline Leavitt said she wanted to break the traditional press’s “monopoly” and allow more outlets to cover the president up close.

But the decision came on the heels of the White House denying the Associated Press access to White House events after the news service declined to adopt “Gulf of America” to describe the Gulf of Mexico, as Trump was demanding. The White House later eliminated designated seats in the pool for wire services. Those slots increasingly go to what the White House calls the mostly Trump-friendly “new media” journalists, including podcasters and individual influencers who focus on specific topic areas.

Now, every time the White House holds an official press briefing, the person in the new media seat gets the first question and a generous introduction from Leavitt a status that was traditionally reserved for the AP. In return, the person often thanks her profusely for allowing them in the room.

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Jordan Berman, who hosts a show titled Unbiased Politics Podcast, in the asks a question in April from the White House briefing room's new media seat. © Kent Nishimura/For The Washington Post

The seat’s occupant is sometimes selected based on the policy the White House is discussing that day. When Trump signed an executive order aimed at banning trans women from competing in women’s sports, Sage Steele, a former ESPN journalist who has been critical of the practice and has since launched her own podcast, appeared in the photo op next to him.

Steele did not respond to a message seeking comment.

“That question sets the entire frame for the entire briefing, and that would have never happened in a million years the first time around,” said Stephen K. Bannon, a former chief strategist in Trump’s first term and an influential radio host. “They reimagined the White House as a major information content provider; that’s the difference.”

The White House also has increasingly invited reporters from friendly outlets that have promoted conspiracy theories, such as One America News and Gateway Pundit, to join the press pool that follows the president, with Trump prioritizing their questions — and the reporters often lavishing Trump and his allies with praise. “I am so thankful for each and every one of you here right now,” Glenn, of Real America’s Voice, told the influencers on Wednesday, noting that several have appeared on his network.

“Even before he ran for office, Trump saw journalists as creatures of his own device,” said Steve Herman, a former White House bureau chief for Voice of America, which Trump has sought to eliminate. He is now the executive director of the Jordan Center for Journalism Advocacy and Innovation at the University of Mississippi. “A good journalist is anyone who is helping to advance Trump’s agenda or agrees with his perceptions and prejudices.”

Cam Higby, an influencer who had worked with Peter Schweitzer to identify the groups allegedly funding antifa, posted a photo on X of the influencers at the antifa event at the White House on Wednesday with the caption: “The future of journalism is bright.”

Leavitt reposted his message and wrote: “I am proud to work for a President who bucks the fake news establishment media and welcomes independent journalists with open arms. As long as President Trump’s in charge, new voices are always welcome in the People’s House.”

By Thursday evening, the White House released a highly produced video featuring the influencers who had attended the antifa event, interspersed with messages from Bondi, Patel and other administration officials.
Progressive Groups Set to Spend Big to Keep Democrats United on Shutdown
Bloomberg (archive.ph)
By Emily Birnbaum and Erik Wasson
2025-10-10 17:22:32GMT
Liberal groups are throwing their money and followers into fortifying Democratic resolve in the lengthening shutdown fight, bolstering vulnerable incumbents who stand firm and preparing to pounce on any wayward senators who show signs of wavering on health care priorities.

Senate Democrats have so far remained remarkably aligned on their demands to extend health care subsidies for over 20 million Americans and reverse Medicaid cuts. But progressive leaders and many of their supporters are painfully aware of the party’s collapse in its last shutdown fight with President Donald Trump in March, when 10 Democratic senators backed down.

Despite early polling suggesting Democrats’ stance is resonating with many voters, maintaining party discipline could become increasingly challenging as the shutdown drags on. More government workers stand to miss paychecks in the coming days, and disruptions are mounting in government services such as air traffic control.

Democrats remained resolute Friday even as the White House said it would make good on its threat to fire thousands of federal workers. “The RIFs have begun,” White House Budget Director Russell Vought posted on social media, referring to reductions in force, the federal government’s term for layoffs.

This time, liberal advocates championing the fight say they are ready and on the lookout for any inkling of a Democratic defection. They’re armed with pre-made advertisements, campaign fundraising and networks of millions of people in every U.S. state ready to hit the streets and blow up senators’ phone lines.

“If a senator goes on CNN and says, ‘We need to meet Republicans where they are at and reopen the government before there are talks,’ then we go on offense,” Joe Jacobson of the Progress Action Fund said.

Jacobson’s group is planning a six-figure television ad buy in the Washington, DC market at the slightest sign any Senate Democrat is vacillating beyond the three Democratic-aligned members who have already voted for the GOP’s temporary funding bill. The prepared ads feature a generic Republican congressman thanking the wavering senator for being “weak and feckless” and “Making America Great Again.”

Jacobson said the group will also go on offense if Democrats “cave” for a mere promise of future discussions or a vote on a Democratic proposal later.

Republicans are trying to turn the progressive advocates’ work against Democrats, arguing that the opposition party is waging the shutdown fight to renew expiring Obamacare insurance subsidies to satisfy “far-left radicals.”

Republican senators emerged from a Tuesday meeting with a new message: Democrats are prolonging the shutdown to coincide with a previously planned anti-Trump rally in DC on Oct. 18. Democratic senators rejected the assertion. Though Indivisible, MoveOn and dozens of other groups helped to plan the rally, representatives of the groups say it is unrelated to the shutdown.

Only three Democratic-aligned senators have voted with Republicans for short-term funding to reopen the government without meeting the opposition party’s health care demands: Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada, John Fetterman of Pennsylvania and Angus King of Maine, an independent who usually votes with Democrats.

Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer and his House counterpart Hakeem Jeffries have insisted they will not support a short-term funding bill unless Republicans agree to extend the Affordable Care Act subsidies, which are set to expire at the end of the year.

“People are just devastated by how much health care will cost them,” Schumer told reporters during a briefing on Wednesday.

For now, many liberal groups are focusing on rewarding the party’s current solidarity.

The Progressive Change Campaign Committee is organizing targeted fundraising for vulnerable lawmakers supporting the shutdown, including Senator Jon Ossoff, a Georgia Democrat. But Adam Green, the committee’s co-founder, said the group is ready to “throw down” funds for pressure ads and other actions if that solidarity weakens.

Green said that PCCC was instrumental in “shaming” Schumer after the March vote and forcing him to cancel a book tour for fear of protests.

Joel Payne, MoveOn’s chief communications officer, said the progressive group is ensuring Democrats “hear support and hear we’ve got their back.” MoveOn says it has millions of members across all states in the US.

Kristen Crowell, executive director of Fair Share America, which focuses on economic causes, said chapters are holding protests around the country showing support for Democrats’ demands to renew the Obamacare subsidies. National and local groups have held at least 67 shutdown-related events since Oct. 4, including protests in Arizona, Alabama, Georgia and Kentucky, according to a list shared by Fair Share.

“That is a very important component of our strategy: we want to make sure members in their home districts, with their own constituents, are hearing directly and pressured to stand on the side of the American public,” Crowell said.

Left-leaning groups including MoveOn, Indivisible, and Working Families Power set a goal of driving 500,000 supportive calls to Congress focused on the health care subsidies. So far, MoveOn has sent nearly one million texts to drive attention to the issue. A “progressive movement” call last week resulted in more than 80 events over the weekend across 27 states, Payne said.

Efforts are continuing to roll out. The Economic Security Project’s political arm is planning a week of actions timed around open enrollment for health insurance plans, which begins officially on Nov. 1, said Adam Ruben, director of Economic Security Project Action.

“Groups around the country will organize local actions to highlight the health care price spikes that will be hitting,” said Ruben, who added there are 15 co-sponsors for the week including groups focused on health care, progressive politics and anti-poverty initiatives. His group is simultaneously planning a six-figure digital campaign focused on stories of people hit by health insurance premium increases driven by the subsidies’ expiration.

Andrew O’Neill, national advocacy director with Indivisible, said liberal grassroots groups spent months preparing for this shutdown fight. Advocates were incensed when Schumer and other Senate Democrats retreated in the prior shutdown fight.

“There’s a lot of frustration with how things played out in March, and immediately us and many others started looking forward, saying, ‘We’ve got another deadline coming up in September – what are we going to do differently?” O’Neill said. “With that long runway, there was an opportunity to have the conversations that needed to be had, plan, program and all that stuff.”

(Updates with White House announcing firings, in fourth paragraph.)
 

Goldman economists on the Gen Z hiring nightmare: ‘Jobless growth’ is probably the new normal (L | A)​

... what Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell memorably described in September as a “low-hire, low-fire” labor market, in which, for some reason, “kids coming out of college and younger people, minorities, are having a hard time finding jobs.” Some analysts blame the downturn in entry-level hiring on the impact of AI on the economy, others on macroeconomic uncertainty, especially the seesawing tariffs regime from the Trump administration. The takeaway is clear, though, that getting hired is really hard in the mid-2020s.​

Definitely AI, not because immigration exceeds job creation.
The decline in quality of education is also a factor, though I seldom see it brought up.

Think about it. So much effort is being spent on making sure a young person learns the courage to express their true gender, that everything good in society was stolen from People of Color by evil, racist, imperialist whites, and that the horrors the Nazis inflicted upon 6 million poor Jews is all one ever needs to know about history herstory. How much time does that leave for learning how to recognize when an engineering problem can be expressed as an integral calculus equation, or learning how to simplify those integrals down some basic linear algebra that you can plug into calculator?

Silly racist, there's no time for that bigotry. Advanced math was already outlawed because of its disparate impact on Blacks, and we're working hard to help liberate Asians from their internalized racism so they stop trying to be so good at math. Prove the bridge design is safe? Don't you know there are other ways of knowing? Shut up with your metallurgy jargon. Using big words is a microaggression against differently-abled people with dyslexia.

The fact of the matter is, the vast majority of young adults I speak to today with technical degrees from US universities are less knowledgeable and skilled than the ones of 5 or 10 years ago. This doesn't mean universities in other countries aren't also pozzed, but the damage does not seem to be as bad. A fresh electrical engineer out of a Latvian university can probably help you simplify your product's circuit design to use cheaper & simpler chips instead of expensive & fancy ones, and can explain the math and logic of why that works. A newly minted mechanical engineer from the UK can probably explain the chemistry of why overheating stainless steel during welding will make it likely to rust in the future. But a recently graduated "network engineer" from a US university? Ask him about how IP addresses work, and he will likely sheepishly mumble something about being discalculic.

So when companies are saying they can't find the skilled candidates they need domestically, they're not completely lying.

This is one of the factors involved in the push for more immigration, and part of the motte in the motte-and-bailey fallacies used by those those arguing in bad faith.
 
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Speaking of hookers, quick question. Why is it there is no hot hookers? Like, how desperate to you have to be to pick up a bald black bitch on the road with saggy HIV ass?

Like, no one in America should be that desperate. Even incel loveshy obese niggas with an IQ of 70 can afford to go through an escort service or listing.

I can’t believe in America ugly ass hookers and tranny gross fat niggers not only somehow get money of any kind doing this, but are not horsewhipped to death and their John’s by being so ugly.

I think we as Americans need to remove this blight from our world by taking up all the street walkers and demanding they either die in prison or get a make over /detransition. Also they should have the option to be deported to India

Hot looking hookers tend to be high end escorts or those who work for brothels, where the people who run the prostitution ring tend to make sure the hookers look presentable given that a brothel prostitute is considered a step up from streetwalkers.
 
two different possible responses from the American right towards the American left to the to telegram chat leaks from GOP youth groups:

correct response - "LOL LMAO"

incorrect response - whatever fucktarded simpering bullshit is going on now
 
non califag here, could you give a tldr on why it's unpopular even with Dems?

If California does this then Republicans will do it en mass in their controlled states as retaliation. Along with the fact that Newsom's plan is far more extreme in targeting the ERASURE of Republican seats, not just creating new ones ala Texas and that will be a huge black eye on Newsome come 2028 in terms.s of showing him to be crooked as fuck and can not be trusted to fuck over anyone in the country that doesn't support him.
 
I’m sorry Bernie, but “their friends own all of the major social media platforms” doesn’t work as an argument when democrats have the endure corporate media and had every social media platform banning republicans for over a decade
He's speaking to his base. They "identify" as the rebellion from Star Wars and the Federation from Star Trek.

Remember, that's the same base that thinks Bernie Sanders is moderate and Obama was center-right. They live in a completely different reality than we do. The fact that a single "nazi" is allowed on the internet at all without being hunted down, doxed, and murdered by the admins of every website on the planet means those sites are owned and operated by the literal devil.

You know that comic about the stick figure running FAAAR to the left and suddenly the "moderate" position has moved such that moderate is now on the right? Picture that, only the idiot stick figure on the left is running with the word Moderate or "Center-Left" in their hands, slamming it down at their new position and pointing to all the center-leftists, moderates, and everyone else screaming Nazi.
 
Need more Robert E Lee statues. He was a true Soldier and General.
lee was a patriot and a hero.
but stonewall is my favorite confederate.
he was a school teacher and he taught the little nigs because it was the christian thing to do.
and his own sister cucked against him because women.
he also got called to watch the execution of john brown.

Stonewall never lost a significant battle.
He was one of the greatest military tacticians of early American history.
Arguably of all time.
If you read about him, he was just a regular dude who stepped up to extraordinary circumstances and excelled at it.
Really an exceptional American figure in history. There's not many people like that.
 
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lee was a patriot and a hero.
but stonewall is my favorite confederate.
he was a school teacher and he taught the little nigs because it was the christian thing to do.
and his own sister cucked against him because women.
he also got called to watch the execution of john brown.

Stonewall never lost a significant battle. He was one of the greatest military tacticians of early American history.
It's really something how they try to treat the heroes of the south as evil bastards. Most of the were probably more PRO negro than Grant and Lincoln and would've been supporting ending slavery within a few decades which was a dying system. They were simple military men of patriot duties of the states, and back then the states mattered a lot. Now you got fuckers like nesom and pritzker that are pushing state rights over fed, but for just as evil means.

Like in 1865, the Republican Party will be winners on this.
 
It's really something how they try to treat the heroes of the south as evil bastards. Most of the were probably more PRO negro than Grant and Lincoln and would've been supporting ending slavery within a few decades which was a dying system. They were simple military men of patriot duties of the states, and back then the states mattered a lot. Now you got fuckers like nesom and pritzker that are pushing state rights over fed, but for just as evil means.

Like in 1865, the Republican Party will be winners on this.
Yeah, the history of it is fucked up.
As I said, Stonewall and many other confederates treated their slaves well.
In Stonewalls case, he held bible study for blacks teaching them how to read and educated them.
He did that even though it was illegal at the time.
So him being a general in the confederate war was much more complicated than just 'muh slavery'.
It was a fight against the federal government trying to tell people like him how to live.
or he felt a duty to fight for his neighbors, because that's just what you do.
 
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