💬 Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[Rapesputin]

Seizing the means of programming is the best way, but unlikely.

A little late, but on that note I cannot recommend Gramsci's writings on cultural hegemony highly enough

 

[Stabby_Pencil]

Women don’t have agp like. Even a self-described AGP (Troon) sex researcher who is 100% onboard with the ideology said that saying “women have AGP, too” comes from a distortion of what AGP is. AGP in men was measured by monitoring their sexual response to totally benign things like “imagine yourself putting on lipstick” which no woman would be turned on by. It’s also pretty obvious on its face. Do women dress themselves up in school girl uniforms and masturbate in them? Do they get turned on when referred to as “she” like many troons admit it? Do women get a sexual thrill out of using the women’s bathroom?

I'd imagine they'd need to redo whatever study said that. Watch it disprove natal women having AGP, but proves it in the MTF population.

 

[█████████]

I'd imagine they'd need to redo whatever study said that. Watch it disprove natal women having AGP, but proves it in the MTF population.

Even if it does, they would then just be like, "So what MTFs have a kink? What's wrong with that? Are trans people not allowed to have kinks?".

 

[TismFarmer]

I can't solve all of society's problems. It makes me mad that I can't even help my friends escape this, because this really is just something they commit to on their own. I don't want to see this thing normalized. I don't know what to do, and I feel like I have no voice. Other women tend to be neutral, not really caring or acknowledging it as a problem. Maybe I'm too alarmist

The problem is that you are a Kind and Good person.
Transgender ideology is NOT kind nor good.
You can see this is the truth because it is Transgender ideology that is making you feel like a bad person because you don't want your friends to destroy their lives for no good reason.

Edited to Add:
If you had a friend who was in a severly psychotic state, and they believed they were a cat, so their parents, instead of getting them psychiatric help, just fed them Whiskas in a bowl on the floor and made them shit in a litter box, you would not think this was good.
In fact, you would probably think they were mocking their mental illness and being incredibly cruel and unkind.
Why is this delusional state any different?

 

[Idiot Sandwich the 3rd]

I know you think Transgenderism has always been a thing blah blah blah.

I do not. What we know as transgenderism nowadays is something completely new.
What has always existed is gender non-comformity

What we DID have, by the '90's, is what we want now!
Children were being taught that it didnt matter what clothes you wore or job you did etc etc. We had multiple GNC rock stars who were VERY feminine but simultaneously sex symbols.
The Sex you were was becoming less and less important.

Now this is something I only half agree with. While the 80s and 90s had celebrities and icons that were very GNC, specially in the rock scene. In normal everyday life gender non conformity was often criticized in many places. It is still something that happens nowadays. Maybe less than in the 90s but it still happens.
Issue is that now trannies are a mainstream thing any kind of gender non conformity is seen a sign of being trans, if not openly then you must be an egg in the closet waiting to crack. And is no better in the conservative side either, as often conservatives will also assume someone who's a masculine woman or a feminine man is a tranny.

Both sides are contributing at the "erasing" of gender non conformity. Thats what my post was trying to say

 

[Wallace]

I remember hearing a quote from a weed legalization activist that said if weed got fully legalized, they'd move onto trying to legalize other illegal drugs. There's no end goal for these people. Total Paid Activist Death.

If transgenderism and nonbinary gender lunacy became fully 100% accepted, and no one had a problem anymore with chopping up little kids' genitals, then these activists would move onto advocating for polyamorous marriages, public sex, pedophilia, incest, and bestiality. Some of them already are one step ahead and already advocating for these things.

This is what happened with gay rights. Once gay marriage became legalized, all of the normies and moderates walked away form activism, since they got what they wanted. Those that remained were the radicals, and they pushed harder for more extreme things like trans. Some people just like the dopamine rush of feeling hard done by.

 

[Chris Konon]

There is definitely a spectrum of troons from full retards to devious predators, but do you think that troons are much more scheming than pooners?

I mean there is much more "theory", lobbying and gaslighting coming out from troons. I always have the feeling that MtF's know their shortcomings and come up with ways to gaslight everyone around them that they are in fact very normal things.
I mean there are things like "the mouthfeel of girl dick is different" or the whole pseudo science babble how neovaginas are totes real 1:1 full female vaginas biology wise. Their rhetoric is much more advanced than pooners. I feel that there is a little bit of naivety to every pooner while AGP freaks are malicious and self aware of their disgusting degeneracy and work their way around that.

Maybe I'm giving pooners too much leeway, but they are hilarious in much less creepy way than troons. Of course they can be whiny, and they are generaly less threating than gigahons, so maybe this is affecting my perception, but they have much less socio-political warfare going on.

What do you think?

 

[█████████]

There is definitely a spectrum of troons from full retards to devious predators, but do you think that troons are much more scheming than pooners?

I mean there is much more "theory", lobbying and gaslighting coming out from troons. I always have the feeling that MtF's know their shortcomings and come up with ways to gaslight everyone around them that they are in fact very normal things.
I mean there are things like "the mouthfeel of girl dick is different" or the whole pseudo science babble how neovaginas are totes real 1:1 full female vaginas biology wise. Their rhetoric is much more advanced than pooners. I feel that there is a little bit of naivety to every pooner while AGP freaks are malicious and self aware of their disgusting degeneracy and work their way around that.

Maybe I'm giving pooners too much leeway, but they are hilarious in much less creepy way than troons. Of course they can be whiny, and they are generaly less threating than gigahons, so maybe this is affecting my perception, but they have much less socio-political warfare going on.

What do you think?

MTFs are more aggressive and violent like a pitbull, whereas FTMs are more annoying and whiney like a chihuahua? Huh....not at all expected for girl-brained and boy-brained individuals!

 

[Chris Konon]

MTFs are more aggressive and violent like a pitbull,

I mean that's pretty obvious, but there is like an upper echelon of troons who work out troon theory and copes think-thank style for all troons to use to bully people around them.

Pooners don't seem to have that.

 

[█████████]

I mean that's pretty obvious, but there is like an upper echelon of troons who work out troon theory and copes think-thank style for all troons to use to bully people around them.

Pooners don't seem to have that.

Esteemed NAMBLA alumni I'm sure.

 

[Stabby_Pencil]

I mean that's pretty obvious, but there is like an upper echelon of troons who work out troon theory and copes think-thank style for all troons to use to bully people around them.

Pooners don't seem to have that.

Most of them have actual narcissistic personality disorder, and that's why troons never care about anyone but themselves. They think they are the best after all, and everyone else is beneath them. Pooners it is low-self esteem and they want to hide and not stand out, most of the time.

 

[Not A Bunny]

So all of these degenerates claiming alternate genders are mad because Trump has put out an order for trans people have their sex corrected on official documentation (like passports).

I thought sex and gender were different? If that's the case, why are they getting spun up about sex being misidentified and not demanding gender be added to these documents?

Oh, right, because words mean nothing to these chucklefucks.

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

There is definitely a spectrum of troons from full retards to devious predators, but do you think that troons are much more scheming than pooners?

I mean there is much more "theory", lobbying and gaslighting coming out from troons. I always have the feeling that MtF's know their shortcomings and come up with ways to gaslight everyone around them that they are in fact very normal things.
I mean there are things like "the mouthfeel of girl dick is different" or the whole pseudo science babble how neovaginas are totes real 1:1 full female vaginas biology wise. Their rhetoric is much more advanced than pooners. I feel that there is a little bit of naivety to every pooner while AGP freaks are malicious and self aware of their disgusting degeneracy and work their way around that.

Maybe I'm giving pooners too much leeway, but they are hilarious in much less creepy way than troons. Of course they can be whiny, and they are generaly less threating than gigahons, so maybe this is affecting my perception, but they have much less socio-political warfare going on.

What do you think?

Transgender ideology overwhelmingly benefits men, so it should come as no surprise that men are it's most aggressive lobbyists.

So all of these degenerates claiming alternate genders are mad because Trump has put out an order for trans people have their sex corrected on official documentation (like passports).

I thought sex and gender were different? If that's the case, why are they getting spun up about sex being misidentified and not demanding gender be added to these documents?

Oh, right, because words mean nothing to these chucklefucks.

Sex and gender are simultaneously different concepts or interchangeable concepts, depending on whatever would be most advantageous in whatever argument the troon is having at any particular moment in time.

 

[Billy Hargrove]

Even if it does, they would then just be like, "So what MTFs have a kink? What's wrong with that? Are trans people not allowed to have kinks?".
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Yeah, pretty much. In their private troon spaces they tend to be more open about being agp (and being different than women), but they don’t see it as invalidating their gender dysphoria or claims of being women.

It’s pretty incoherent but well that is standard for trans ideology.

Edit since I don’t like to double post:

I don’t believe it can, because it doesn’t change your sex. If the problem is that you were in the wrong body, well you’re still in the wrong body. It’s just been hacked about a bit.

Helen Joyce talks about a detranstioner whose moment of clarity was bragging about her hysterectomy and being told “how can a surgery that only women can have be proof that you’re a man?”

A separate pooner had a moment of clarity when she realized the past three years of her “gender journey” had been an escalating series of misery, not the fantasy she had been promised by tumblr. Honestly, even realizing that is very impressive for a trans identified person. As an aside, I suspect given that sexuality is so wrapped up in it for male troons that these realizations are much harder to come by for them.

 

[Anasa Tristis]

do you think that troons are much more scheming than pooners?

Nah. Being males they never had to develop subtle, non violent methods to access power and control.

Their rhetoric is much more advanced than pooners.

Only because they've been at it longer. Before current times troons were rare, but pooners were even rarer.

they are generaly less threating than gigahons, so maybe this is affecting my perception, but they have much less socio-political warfare going on.

All that and more is because they're female.

If a handful of pooner TRAs approached a group of (predominately male) politicians and said that they were born in the wrong bodies and that they needed laws to protect their LARPing as men out in public they'd have been laughed out of the room.

 

[The Poopsmith]

Of course they can be whiny, and they are generaly less threating than gigahons, so maybe this is affecting my perception, but they have much less socio-political warfare going on.

I think this is because men, since time immemorial, have been dressing like women for sexual/fetish purposes. The inverse can't be said about women. IMHO, It boils down to male sexual aggression. Look to nature: a physically healthy male of virtually any species will fight like hell to spread his genes. Get in his way and things are gonna get ugly real fast. Granted, male trannies aren't typically spreading any seed but the root is still the same, sex. That impetus isn't there for females, at least not to the same degree as males.

As an aside, this is probably why trannies are so awful these days. There absolutely are biological/genetic reasons why certain males would exhibit transexual behaviors, and we used to be pretty good at identifying these and treating them as such. They're also exceedingly rare and come with no sexual motive outside of the norm (or none at all, as these conditions can suppress sex drive). Most MtFs of old weren't typical males to begin with, but the trannies who piggybacked on society's tolerance of them are. They've taken what used to be acceptance of a small group of people quietly living with a condition and turned it into their meal ticket to indulge their fetishes in public. And as I discussed above, denying them this "right" means denying them sexual gratification, and we all know the kind of response that will evoke.

 

[Paper Machete]

The inverse can't be said about women.

A lot of pooners are clearly weird sex creeps. It's just people aren't threatened by women in the same way. They still have a deleterious effect however.

Trans ideology is a sex cult and this is no less true for pooners than for troons.

 

[The Poopsmith]

A lot of pooners are clearly weird sex creeps. It's just people aren't threatened by women in the same way. They still have a deleterious effect however.

Oh I agree, but the question had to do with why there's so much rhetoric on troon side vs the poon side. Tell a pooner shes not a man and she'll cry in the corner, tell a troon he's not a woman and he'll flip the fuck out because you're blue-balling him. The root of troon rage is sexual agression. This is because they are men.

 

[Paper Machete]

Oh I agree, but the question had to do with why there's so much rhetoric on troon side vs the poon side. Tell a pooner shes not a man and she'll cry in the corner, tell a troon he's not a woman and he'll flip the fuck out because you're blue-balling him

Both are abusive personalities that have particular tactics to get what they want. Abusers are always calculating stuff like that. Gigahons with low impulse control will reach for physical intimidation first because they know it works and pooners will play the wounded bird because they know it works (by attempting to paint the other person as the problem).

I have no doubt most pooners would also use physical intimidation if they woke up over 6' one day. There have been a few examples of pooners with women that were clearly aggressive towards them too, and I wonder how common a dynamic this is when they're alone with someone of a similar or even smaller stature. A lot of their seething is about being weak and I think this is largely out of their desire to be able to use aggression in this way, not because of anything else.

 

[The Poopsmith]

I have no doubt most pooners would also use physical intimidation if they woke up over 6' one day. There have been a few examples of pooners with women that were clearly aggressive towards them too, and I wonder how common a dynamic this is when they're alone with someone of a similar or even smaller stature. A lot of their seething is about being weak and I think this is largely out of their desire to be able to use aggression in this way, not because of anything else.

I'm sure they would. I'd be curious to see what sort of categories would be employed if Blanchardian-style typology was developed for FtMs. I'd guess that instead of something like AGP, it would be something based in psychology and behaviour. Like a Napoleon complex of sorts. I'm just spitballing though