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[Jogger The Nogger]

Reading this thread from beginning to end is a trip. It goes from loving these retards to political sperging. For whatever reason so many want them to have agreeable political opinions that will never materialize. They are hack frauds meant to be watched for entertainment and will always have milquetoast opinions on current thing. It can be annoying at times but it is what it is Toobz. Many later pages of this thread read like like any given day on /tv/. And of course they have given up on capeshit and Star Wars it's just not worth it anymore. Also their current trend of using faggot reddit tier terms to avoid demonetization is a bit grating, but what else would you expect. The most annoying thing to me they indulge in now is Mike's constant need to pretend he can fix bad movies with his equally awful ideas.

 

[Hentai-Semitism]

Mike telling his DnD story about his lowly mage killing some big bad with a dart which is pretty hilarious

He rolled two crits in a row while attacking Lord Soth and supposedly the GM got a bit salty.

They knew the elf was black.

The only negroid feature is the mouth. Other than that, she's about as black as Talcum X.

 

[mlanguishi]

@StarkRavingMad They kinda were 'great 3 movies' but you also had the holiday special, animated mostly crap (except the boba fett short in the holiday special of course), and ewok shows. There was legit bad Star Wars early on. Things were bleak until the gaming scene, for me at least with the early cd-rom Rebel Assault and other PC games like the X-wing series.

There was a rarely known of set called 'Star Wars Behind the Magic' CD set (look that up) that had some a lot of early TPM gossip level stuff and a ton of 'missing scenes' from ANH. I remember seeing those missing ANH shots and going OMG, Biggs! Wormie calls, Koo Stark! Cut scenes. RLM got in at an easy time when the hype had mostly died by late 2000's after ROTS. At that point there was little in media or anything SW related.

The SW toy scene frigging tied from 1984 with power of the force coin sets until 1995 with power of the force 2. Lucas did an amazing job of slowly building up hype from early 90s to TPM.

I watched Mando 1/2, by end of season 2 I was checked out. Skipped 3. Tried to watch book and obiwan, just utter nightmare trash. Nothing since. This upcoming Mando/grogu movie will be the first star wars movie I can think of since 79 release and ESB I won't see in a theater. I didn't see first Raiders, but saw them all too until dial, skimmed it, skipped.

It's absolutely not special anymore in any way. You get bits and pieces that are ok like mando 1 to 1.5 or so, but otherwise, just no.

I took my dad to see Solo and after he said 'well it wasn't too boring', and that's about the best I can think of the best of Disney Star Wars.

 

[Well Intentioned]

But the Empire and the New Republic had parity. Han even says in the Thrawn Trilogy's beginning that both the New Republic and Empire were at equal strength, and the former fought harder. The Empire didn't snuff out the New Rpeublic/Galactic Alliance until 130 years after the first movie.

It's honestly been a long ass time since I read the books, but my understanding is that in Zahn trilogy the New Republic were in 'clean up' mode with the Imperials, more or less having run down most of the warlords and splinter groups that came in the wake of the Emperor's death, with the arrival of Thrawn being what galvanizes the last of the Imperials for a last gasp push. This was like ~5-6 years after RoTJ.

Suddenly, you have an Imperial threat that is kicking the shit out of the New Republic -- Coruscant is under siege and cut off from everyone, Thrawn is conquering planets, the Imperials suddenly have a bottomless supply of troops again, etc. But these are all built up and they're made into credible threats through the story.

This is what I mean by Disney doing shit really fucking stupidly -- the New Order in Disney Wars are suddenly this mega juggernaut with endless resources because the script demands that the heroes have a credible threat. Shit just springs forth malformed and poorly thought out because the script requires it.

The end result is the same in both the EU and Disney Wars -- the good guys win, the bad guys suffer another setback, but one left an impression on fans and was well received while the other was a wet fart.

Er, no. Not even with the EU. The Jedi return for good, which means ROTJ's ending sticks. In fact, when the Empire crushes the Alliance, it turns into a messy war over the Empire's throne, with a Jedi faction and a Sith faction having equal power and sending armies of Stormtroopers and Star Destroyers against each other.

I'm looking at shorter story arcs where the Empire are built up as credible threats (which is why I was referring specifically to the Zahn EU trilogy and not the entire body of EU), similar to how they were in the Sequels, rather than the entirety of the EU put together (which, again, lol when they get to late stage EU.)

You really think that if they explore post-sequel Star Wars there aren't going to be Jedi?

That has already begun. The new Thrawn storyline is practically Heir to the Empire; they even name-drop it.

RLM whined that they don't care about the books. Well, the books are now the future of the franchise.

I mean, they've been doing it almost nonstop.

The aforementioned cribbing of Dark Empire.
The shit with Boba Fett coming out and working with other bounty hunters is similar to the Boba Fett books when he escaped the sarlacc.
There's the shit with cortosis ore and the Dark Trooper project in the Mandalorian. Plus the dark saber.
There was the Dathomir witches in the Acolyte.
Thrawn in Ashoka.
The (rumored) scrapped Rogue Squadron project.

But it's never done (IMO) in a satisfactory manner and always has that Disney spin on it to make it shit in some way.

 

[I'm a Silly]

He rolled two crits in a row while attacking Lord Soth and supposedly the GM got a bit salty.


The only negroid feature is the mouth. Other than that, she's about as black as Talcum X.

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Her skull is negroid as well as her shallow-set eyes and prognathism, but I repeat myself.
She played Lisa Dolittle in the Eddie Murphy Dr. Dolittle reboot.
Take another look.

[ffs they gave her a short curly fro in the elf role, why would they do that?]

 

[Kharash]

He rolled two crits in a row while attacking Lord Soth and supposedly the GM got a bit salty.


The only negroid feature is the mouth. Other than that, she's about as black as Talcum X.

View attachment 7996478

Got the timestamp for those interested.

 

[Hentai-Semitism]

Her skull is negroid as well as her shallow-set eyes and prognathism, but I repeat myself.
She played Lisa Dolittle in the Eddie Murphy Dr. Dolittle reboot.
Take another look.https://youtube.com/watch?v=3J47hpu0fG0[ffs they gave her a short curly fro in the elf role, why would they do that?]
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What is this, One Drop Rule? Oh, look, she played a black guy's wife. I still disagree.

 

[I'm a Silly]

What is this, One Drop Rule? Oh, look, she played a black guy's wife. I still disagree.

She played EVERY black guy's wife and an elf with an afro opposite a Wayans brother.
Big mouf, teefas, and pop-eyes = all negroid phenotypic traits. I'm not saying she isn't mixed, but she a sista fo sho.

 

[Kharash]

What is this, One Drop Rule? Oh, look, she played a black guy's wife. I still disagree.

I can kind of see it but even if she was the blackest gorilla nigger imaginable Jay's comment would still be retarded. It's a typical dwarf/elf interaction but he sees it as some kind of anti black racism. He must have been sipping the kool aid for years to instantly reach that conclusion.

 

[I'm a Silly]

I can kind of see it but even if she was the blackest gorilla nigger imaginable Jay's comment would still be retarded. It's a typical dwarf/elf interaction but he sees it as some kind of anti black racism. He must have been sipping the kool aid for years to instantly reach that conclusion.

Don't forget, he also referred to the dwarf as an orc; therein lies the problem.

 

[Hentai-Semitism]

Don't forget, he also referred to the dwarf as an orc; therein lies the problem.

Meh, I think he knows the difference and just misspoke.

 

[Flexo]

One thing that Lucas understood about his own creation was that Star Wars needed to feel special; like an event that doesn't happen often.

He learned that lesson after he shat out the holiday special and it went over like a lead balloon.

Say what you will, George does learn from his mistakes and that's one of the things I respect about him.

 

[Mola Ram]

He learned that lesson after he shat out the holiday special and it went over like a lead balloon.

Say what you will, George does learn from his mistakes and that's one of the things I respect about him.

It also used to be easier to bury mistakes. Until the internet advanced to the point video was easy to download, the Holiday Special was almost a myth. It aired only once, and there was a bootleg floating around, but you had to be deep in the fandom to know where to find it -- generally at conventions, or maybe you were buddies with an uber-geek who had somehow gotten his hands on it. For the rest of us, it remained a half-forgotten memory so vague it might have been a dream.

 

[Akerman]

The OG Star Wars Trilogy used to be some of my favorite movies ever (I know, I'm so unique lol). I even told people that they were among my favorite movies ever even during the disappointment of the Prequels.

I feel the same way even though I still rewatch Empire Strikes Back every New Years since to me it's a very good movie for it, the last shot just gives me a perfect feeling of looking forward to the new year. But that's pretty much it, I barely rewatch New Hope now because its been raped by callbacks and I was never a huge ROTJ fan, the throne room scenes are good but I can always just rewatch those on YouTube anyways. So Empire is really the only movie I regularly rewatch and enjoy.

I am not into any of them as much as I was before like you though, what Disney has done to Star Wars is perfect proof that a movie franchise is not just a franchise. What you do with it can ripple across the movies in the past and into the future. There's always been shitty Star Wars for sure, but at least there was a rule set early on that the EU was not to fuck with the movies and it was easier to ignore. This led to stories where they invented new characters and such inside the universe that the films created, which I would argue was much better.

 

[Rich Evans Ayypologist]

While it can sometimes be amusing to hyperanalyze Wisconsinite alcoholics, I find that my creative juices are better spent imagining a universe where Patton Oswalt's wife drowned him in the car instead whoops OTHER venerated wife-killer force-fed him drugs

 

[ddlloo]

I kind of empathise with the stick up Mike's arse regarding some of the star wars stuff. The plinkett videos were what put RLM on the map. It legitimized them. Now, nearly 15 years later, half the internet doesn't know/remember the past correctly and blames them for all kinds of wild shit or they just have gaping pieces of context completely missing from their arguments. Plus Mike is a trekkie, not a star wars nerd, so he's genetically driven to dislike the fandom (this actualy annoys me because he is so much more charitable with his brainpower towards Trek crap). Thinking about it, the last star wars video he did should have been a revisit of TPM and the original review, just saying what he wants to say, clarifying shit, and then just moving on and not making himself look salty going forward.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

I kind of empathise with the stick up Mike's arse regarding some of the star wars stuff. The plinkett videos were what put RLM on the map. It legitimized them. Now, nearly 15 years later, half the internet doesn't know/remember the past correctly and blames them for all kinds of wild shit or they just have gaping pieces of context completely missing from their arguments. Plus Mike is a trekkie, not a star wars nerd, so he's genetically driven to dislike the fandom (this actualy annoys me because he is so much more charitable with his brainpower towards Trek crap). Thinking about it, the last star wars video he did should have been a revisit of TPM and the original review, just saying what he wants to say, clarifying shit, and then just moving on and not making himself look salty going forward.

Not going to work. Especially with Gen Z and Millennials being Prequel-lovers. Prequel-hate was strong among Gen X, it was one of their contributions, especially since Gen X wanted to get even with boomers, and Lucas was a boomer.

But the way Plinkett's videos are treated by SW fans now is a "how not to view the movies" guide. RLM hate is strong among the people who still give a shit about the SW franchise, especially among younger fans who actually like the Prequels. And as for the newbies who aren't fans, they don't care that RLM trashed the Prequels long ago; they're too busy caring about TikTok shit, watching Only Fans, or some new Skibidi Toilet thing. Maybe they care about new movies like K-Pop Demon Hunters, or Transformers One, but they sure as shit don't give a damn about some trolls who trashed the Prequels.

You either have people who react to RLM with pure hatred, like the Millennial and Gen Z SW fans, or you have complete indifference from the new generation, as Gen X grows older and loses their nerd cred as they take the boomers' place as the old farts.

It'd be better if RLM just closed up shop and moved on. Very few like them, and most who actually still care about nerd shit hate their guts. Especially since them recommending JJ Abrams for the new SW movie trilogy fucked Disney's Star Wars Sequels right in the ass. To the point where Disney has to get the guy who led the Clone Wars show along with Lucas (Dave Filoni) to try and rehabilitate the Sequels by making TV series that would explain how they happened. A fool's errand, but Disney wouldn't be in that situation if RLM didn't recommend JJ Abrams.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

I kind of empathise with the stick up Mike's arse regarding some of the star wars stuff. The plinkett videos were what put RLM on the map. It legitimized them. Now, nearly 15 years later, half the internet doesn't know/remember the past correctly and blames them for all kinds of wild shit or they just have gaping pieces of context completely missing from their arguments. Plus Mike is a trekkie, not a star wars nerd, so he's genetically driven to dislike the fandom (this actualy annoys me because he is so much more charitable with his brainpower towards Trek crap). Thinking about it, the last star wars video he did should have been a revisit of TPM and the original review, just saying what he wants to say, clarifying shit, and then just moving on and not making himself look salty going forward.

I dunno, if I was making some good money off Patreon alone per month, then I wouldn't have much to complain about. lol.

Then again, I am a total and complete nobody who has zero desire to rub elbows with the entertainment industry, so ...

 

[I'm a Silly]

While it can sometimes be amusing to hyperanalyze Wisconsinite alcoholics, I find that my creative juices are better spent imagining a universe where Patton Oswalt's wife drowned him in the car instead whoops OTHER venerated wife-killer force-fed him drugs

I have to assume that the other venerated wife killer is Curtis Yarvin.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

I dunno, if I was making some good money off Patreon alone per month, then I wouldn't have much to complain about. lol.

Then again, I am a total and complete nobody who has zero desire to rub elbows with the entertainment industry, so ...

At this point, you'd think RLM would be networking with Blumhouse or A24. Cheap comedy is an unfilled niche that those companies can fill if they really wanted to.