📚 Megathread Jesse Singal Derangement Syndrome - jsingal69 vs TroonWorld

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I haven't had a look at Serano in years, clicked over.
Good god, what the hell happened to him?
Is this what they mean by "twink death"?
Great profile picture though.

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"How society sexualizes us, and how we can fight back"
 
The new episode mentioned a crusade against Charlie Kirk by Evan Urquhart. It has been apparently going on for weeks, but I hadn't even heard it mentioned anywhere except on this podcast.

Pooners, man. Thousands of people have been spending all their time specifically seeking out people insulting Charlie Kirk, and in the meantime Evan has been jumping up and down screaming "I hate Charlie Kirk! I am so glad he is dead!" in her squeaky little pooner voice, and still barely anyone has noticed her.
 
Pooners, man. Thousands of people have been spending all their time specifically seeking out people insulting Charlie Kirk, and in the meantime Evan has been jumping up and down screaming "I hate Charlie Kirk! I am so glad he is dead!" in her squeaky little pooner voice, and still barely anyone has noticed her.
Troons are men and can at least get violent, so you have to remember never to relax around them.

Pooners are just these ridiculous little doods. Nobody fears or cares about these Aidans and Evans and Codys that are always these tiny little frail things.

It's not like they can hulk out like these manmountain refrigerator sized troons.
 
Pooners are just these ridiculous little doods. Nobody fears or cares about these Aidans and Evans and Codys that are always these tiny little frail things.

It's not like they can hulk out like these manmountain refrigerator sized troons.
Counterpoint: Roid rage and a low center of gravity.

It's like the flash floods in desert regions; they knock you off your feet and once you're down, you're in trouble.
 
Counterpoint: Roid rage and a low center of gravity.

It's like the flash floods in desert regions; they knock you off your feet and once you're down, you're in trouble.

Nah, it's like being worried about a 13 year old boy. It's not inconceivable that someone like that can get a lucky shot in and make you dizzy for a moment, but after that, dood's doomed.
 
He would have loved her pronunciation of "Nicaraguans."

Computer, go to 25:34 on the latest episode of acclaimed podcast Blocked & Reported.




Okay, let's isolate the most important part of the episode.



Now put it to work.

 
RIP Katie’s racist neighbor. He would have loved her pronunciation of "Nicaraguans."
I also have the Josh/Katie word disease so I wouldn’t even attempt that one in public.
Yes, I think this is why they continue to use "preferred pronouns" most of the time - even though I think it's perpetuating a big fat lie, if I wanted to be a normal journalist I would go along with it too. Sadly, it's just something you have to do in some professional contexts. There are people of Gender like Buck Angel, Erica Anderson, etc, who haven't drunk the Kool Aid on trans kids and Jesse needs to be able to talk to them.
You know, the “professional” gendering thing is annoying but I think some people in this space start to assume everyone knows who everyone else is talking about—which IS true to some extent, it’s like Six Degrees of Andrea James—so it’s almost part of the bit by now. “SHE posted a fantasy about me jerking off in HER closet and then SHE threatened to slit my throat.”

Sure, it’s possible it’s an Audrey, but it’s usually not…
 
I kind of respect Jesse's dedication to giving people the benefit of the doubt long past the point when anyone else would have stopped. I don't think it's naivete; it seems motivated at least in part by optics. It serves to make the people who demonize him look all the more unhinged. Additionally, Jesse understands that he needs to cultivate goodwill even with people he comes to disagree with, because he knows that those people may someday come to be useful sources. It's clear he wants to be the first guy people in the media ecosystem people content the moment they either peak or are cancelled.
This is exactly my read on the situation. I don't think Jesse is nearly as naive as he seems to want to portray himself as. (He's too insightful/analytical when it comes to tearing apart the horrid trans studies to then not apply that same logic to the motivations of the people who write the studies in the first place. He just chooses to play dumb.)

I think so many people (online) these days are thirsty for blood, but that's probably why they make such piss poor activists. The skills required to fire up your own people - to get those that already agree with you to want to go rushing in for blood - are not always so well aligned with the skills required for real, genuine change. It's a lot harder to slowly and unerringly convince your enemies that maybe, just maybe, you have a point. It requires humility and kindness and politeness, it requires always trying to hold out an olive branch on the off chance that they take it... It's difficult but I think that this "I'm gonna be an asshole because you're an asshole to me" blood sport style of current Internet discourse doesn't help much when it comes to convincing normies and actually making things better. It often just creates more division.

Now does Jesse always exemplify those qualities, probably not... But I think his insistence on being polite and always playing nice are him taking the high road in the hopes that it will eventually lead to genuine change.

I personally think he has far more of a shot at it than more polemic commentators.
 
I think so many people (online) these days are thirsty for blood, but that's probably why they make such piss poor activists.
I was looking at this site last night for stalking reasons and it seems like a microcosm of [current year] liberalism.


It's not enough to just be a gay who wants to make gay friends and plan a parade once a year, it needs to be ALL THE THINGS ALL AT ONCE.

And not just that, it all needs to be in a language that my Bay Area Liberal parents (who met in the history department at UC Berkeley, ffs) would find incomprehensible. Like almost every word on the front page needs a wholeass paragraph defining what it means. There IS a vocabulary section on the website, but it's not enough to simply define terms. The website says:

"Caveat: At Queer Humboldt, we use the following definitions generally, but we also do our best to use the words individual people use to describe themselves when possible. There aren't just single definitions for queer terminology and language around these topics is constantly evolving. If someone uses a word to describe themselves and you don't know what they mean by it, it might be helpful to respectfully ask rather than assuming what their definition is."

Sweet Haploid Jesus, if the language that fags (including indigenous fags) have used to talk about themselves from antiquity to 2015 just isn't good enough and you need to invent new words and new concepts to describe yourself, just go take a walk on the beach. Go hug a redwood. Lick a banana slug.

I might posit that the reason why troons are such vicious little shits in the activism sphere is that they only care about themselves, so their "activism" is basically self-centeredness in a way that even the insufferable Gaza protesters don't embue. I might even be so bold as to say that there's no "trans community" in the way that most people understand the term.

Blacks protesting against police violence or the old ACT UP people might have had a kernel of self interest, but there's at least some pressure to make it about other people and not MEEEEEEEEEEE.

I once heard a wise man say that each gull hangs out in flocks with other gulls not because gulls like each other but just in case another gull drops something that can be stolen.

I don't think troons enjoy the company of other troons, I think they hang out together because they can wallow in their favorite topic--themselves--without other people walking away in disgust and boredom.

"Let me educate you about my preferred pr.... wait, where are you going?"
 
Some luser blogging about the WAFFLES heard around Bluesky:

https://bsky.app/profile/brunodias.bsky.social/post/3m26msnzuf22q (archive)
https://azhdarchid.com/delusions-of-a-protocol/ (archive) (ghost) (mega) (wayback)
Jesse Singal's malfeasance is widely documented elsewhere. What has Bluesky's userbase up in arms is, mainly, three things:
  • Bluesky's lackadaisical and inconsistent moderation letting Jesse Singal keep his account on the service even after he committed serious abuses on the platform;
  • Bluesky's lackadaisical and inconsistent moderation banning and suspending accounts for nonsense reasons, probably most notably comics writer Gretchen Falker-Martin who reportedly was sanctioned for reacting with a 'lol' at news of Charlie Kirk being shot;
  • Bluesky's lackadaisical and inconsistent moderation team updating the site's terms of service with new rules about porn that, although they are written vaguely and badly, seem to basically restrict users from posting non-con/dub-con erotica or even discussing the subject of rape in a non-eroticized way.
For the record: I think Jay Graber is a transphobe; I think there's just too much evidence in her behavior to not read that into her actions at this point. No normal person would go out of their way to court Jesse Singal. A lot of this stuff feels motivated by a glaring animus towards the userbase that Bluesky has attracted; and because this userbase formed around people who simply couldn't justify being on Twitter any more, said userbase is full of highly visible trans users.
 
Nice to see the person who talked about “breeding that good, fucking, macaroni-in-a-pot puss” lecture about anyone being unprofessional.
 
Another leftist organization imploding due to purity spirals regarding transphobia? Must be a day ending in Y.
 
Do I want my memory refreshed about what waffles is?

It's a reference to an old tweet about how you couldn't talk about how you like pancakes on Twitter without someone saying "Oh so you hate waffles?"

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She's basically saying she wants the platform to be less nasty and combative.

Someone immediately comes in being nasty and combative about Jesse Singal, and she replies "WAFFLES" (ie, telling him he's doing exactly the thing she's talking about)

Bluesky users sense they're being mocked in their super important crusade against Nazi transphobes, and go crazy. Remember, for a lot of these people, the anti-bigot omnicause is the main source of meaning in their lives. Making fun of it is like burning a Koran in front of a fundamentalist Muslim. Hence the wailing and chimping.
 
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