US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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The best and greatest said:
Yes and outside of ag animals I disagree with their existence as a needless luxury to begin with, but for a squirrel who is already fucked from birth?

How many hours of training do you suppose it takes to train a squirrel surgeon? How many medical resources are needed in practicing before they become certified? All of this takes time money and resources that would be better spent redirected towards people instead of fucking house pets.
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We're stewards of God's creatures. Animals brought to vets are always affected by human civilization in some way. It's basic decency, the kind that separates civilized societies from savages. Humans have fundamentally altered the ecosphere and with that comes some onus to care for those affected especially if they're entrusted to our care. There's also an element of surrogacy; pet owners often (perhaps wrongly) view their pets/wards as their children/family, and are deeply emotionally invested in their well-being. It's fine if you don't understand such emotional attachments, emotions are fundamentally at odds with intense autism. It may also be irrational. However, it's still a powerful force and a manifestation of the same sort of compassion that led to the creation of society as we know it.

Jose Beaner Luna said:
What is a goverment shutdown? explain it to me in minecraft terms.
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Admin sets the server to whitelist-only and gets to ban anyone he wants. Non-whitelisted players' owned chunks are not loaded and their Quarry+ do not collect resources.
 
World Famous Quasi Payer said:
Movies are dead because hollywood is a leftist captured industry. Same applies to publishing, and much of the gaming industry. The only reason younger people don't care about movies is because all the movies worth watching were produced decades ago, and are available online now. Neither movies, nor books are dead as mediums, but they are effectively dead because of who runs the industry. For example name a major movie produced in the last five years that wasn't part of an older series, or a remake? Used to be some badass action movie every year back in the day. Nowadays? Fuck all. Now its all nameless leftist slop meant to spread a message, a narrative, more than tell a good story. More concerned about raising awareness about climate change, faggotry, and fascism. I hope Trump's EO strangles Hollywood to death. Killing Hollywood would destroy one of the left's major means to propagandize people.
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The whole subject of what's going on in Hollywood (and why it's dying) has so many factors. Hollywood has been full of leftism for a lot of it's history. (And especially after the cultural revolution at the end of the '60s.) But I would say that the current failure stems from the fact that current Hollywood has become hyper-corporatized. Corporations cannot create are by their nature fundamentally uncreative. Corporations love to turn everything into a predictable machine rigidly controlled by bureaucrats. Corporations are risk-adverse. Modern corporations are wedded to DEI.

When television took off in the 1950s, Hollywood started to stagnate and die. After the counter culture in 1968, the studios were out of touch with the public. The only reason why Hollywood didn't die back then, and why it was reborn for several more decades of healthy life was because people in power at studios decided to take risks and give seed money to unknown creatives. A whole new crop of talented actors, directors, writers, etc. breathed new life into the industry.

Current Hollywood strangled by corporatization is not allowing new creativity to flourish. They are not giving opportunites to new talent. They aren't courting new talent. The coporate drones that run and infest current Hollywood are stupid mediocrities more interested in following their own internal corporate proceedures and rewarding the kind of people who mesh well with corporate environments (exactly the kind of person who is not creative or daring or exciting). The whole place has experienced severe brain drain.
 
Oh! said:
We're stewards of God's creatures. Animals brought to vets are always affected by human civilization in some way. It's basic decency, the kind that separates civilized societies from savages. Humans have fundamentally altered the ecosphere and with that comes some onus to care for those affected especially if they're entrusted to our care. There's also an element of surrogacy; pet owners often (perhaps wrongly) view their pets/wards as their children/family, and are deeply emotionally invested in their well-being. It's fine if you don't understand such emotional attachments, emotions are fundamentally at odds with intense autism. It may also be irrational. However, it's still a powerful force and a manifestation of the same sort of compassion that led to the creation of society as we know it.


Admin sets the server to whitelist-only and gets to ban anyone he wants. Non-whitelisted players' owned chunks are not loaded and their Quarry+ do not collect resources.
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Did god make the world for the benefit of animals or did he make the animals for the benefit of us?

Your perspective is fair, though I will say you don't have to be autistic to keep a healthy degree of detachment from an animal that will at best last a tenth of your lifespan. You can have pets and love them but still understand that at the end of the day its a lesser being to you, its life health and wellbeing are a secondary concern at best next to yourself and your loved ones (not counting it). I've had pets throughout my life and many I've had since I or they were little, animals I tended to myself when they got sick or injured. I have never once cried over a lost animal or felt the need to shell out hundreds or thousands of dollars just to keep one for a little while longer.

Every pet you take ownership of will die, most likely before you do. When you adopt a pet you adopt impending tragedy - you must inevitably say goodbye. Veterinarians do not change this.
 
Kuritan Deplorable said:
As opposed to Africa, where they peacefully enslaved each other for the hell of it before the whites arrived, upon which they stopped their peaceful ways, and then violently enslaved each other at the white mans behest, to trade for guns that they used purely for peaceful pursuits. Always peaceful goals there, I'm sure.
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A white man kills someone, his inner brokenness is subdued for a time.

An African kills someone, it's meal time.
 
The best and greatest said:
Did god make the world for the benefit of animals or did he make the animals for the benefit of us?
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Good question.

In Genesis 1:20-25, God created the fish, birds, and land animals, and declared them "good" before humans even appeared; they're part of good creation in their own right.
In Genesis 1:26-28, humans are created in God's image and are told to "rule" and "subdue" the earth, with "dominion" over animals.
In Genesis 1:29-30, both humans and animals are originally given plants to eat, they're seen as sharing the earth's provision.

I can't speak to why God made the world, but animals did come first and we were merely granted dominion over them as their rulers. As rulers it's our duty to care for them.

Things get more complicated after that, even within Genesis, but if we're just talking strict origins, that's how it's laid out.
The best and greatest said:
I will say you don't have to be autistic to keep a healthy degree of detachment from an animal that will at best last a tenth of your lifespan.
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This is very true. I personally love my cat very much but I also know it will eventually die and there's nothing I can do to prevent that. However, I agreed to a pact as part of ownership to provide the best quality of life I can for it, and anything less than that would be neglect on my part. However, I'm emotionally compromised in this regard so I can't exactly give unbiased analysis there. I guess the bottom line is that people, who have agency, can deserve the bad things that befall them. They don't necessarily deserve it in all cases, but they're at least capable of taking blame. Animals are more or less blameless, they operate off instinct and conditioning. Much as it's a shepherd's duty to tend to its flock, it's the duty of pet owners to care for their pets.

I feel myself growing more autistic by the second, though, so I should probably stop there.
 
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