💬 Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

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As others have said, I don’t think there’s much to be gained from such an email other than a target on your back. The question then is, how overrun is the group? Are troons dominating the place? If so, you could maybe come at it from an angle of, “Look, I come here for [whatever it is], but I feel like trans discourse is taking over and the group has lost its focus.”
Psyop Strategy: Claim you're a he/they nonbinary (if you're a man, or she/they nonbinary woman if you're a woman) and say that discussing trans discourse makes you feel dysphoric. This will probably unironically work and get them to stfu about tranny issues.
 
Psyop Strategy: Claim you're a he/they nonbinary (if you're a man, or she/they nonbinary woman if you're a woman) and say that discussing trans discourse makes you feel dysphoric. This will probably unironically work and get them to stfu about tranny issues.
There’s actually an autistic “non-binary” woman there who dresses in just pants and a shirt and has long hair. Just looks like a normal, awkward woman in an IT uniform.

If I told her I was “non-binary” as well - she would probably explode.
 
Bisexual girl I'm dating just casually drops that she wouldn't mind dating me if I transitioned.
I saw I saw the TV glow with her, and we debated how much of it was an allegory for being trans vs just generally being true to oneself
Is this a red flag, genuinely? She says she doesn't really mind labels and even considered being transmasc two years ago, which I don't mind but it makes our trans talks very awkward to remember
 
Bisexual girl I'm dating just casually drops that she wouldn't mind dating me if I transitioned.
I saw I saw the TV glow with her, and we debated how much of it was an allegory for being trans vs just generally being true to oneself
Is this a red flag, genuinely? She says she doesn't really mind labels and even considered being transmasc two years ago, which I don't mind but it makes our trans talks very awkward to remember

It is a red flag. I don't like dating anyone who's adamantly pro-trans, ESPECIALLY if they say they would support me transitioning. I don't know your sexuality, but what if this person transitions? Another fear I'd have is, because I'm a lesbian, what if my partner transitions themselves? Would you still be interested in dating someone who's gotten sex-change bottom surgery? I honestly don't even date regular "cis" bisexual women either, since most are extremely libtarded and mostly attracted to men. This person probably thinks you're the spawn of Satan just for having an account on this website.

I'm making the assumption that you have the same dating philosophy as me: that you want a monogamous long-lasting relationship that hopefully you don't break up with. If this is just like a casual hookup fling and you don't care, then I guess it doesn't matter. Shared values and intelligence are the things I look for the most in terms of a relationship, since I believe a relationship has a higher chance to last if a partner has the same values as me and critical thinking skills. If they're going to get offended at informed opinions I have (such as that transition is harmful), then I do not want to date them. I already walk on eggshells around too many people, and I would grow to dislike my partner if I had to walk around eggshells with them too.

TLDR: Don't date this person. I recommend the Lesbian General Thread for lesbian dating advice. I also recommend reading this response on why HRT is harmful, as well as recommend looking at the SRS Hall of Shame thread (warning: it's very NSFW and gorey) to dissuade you from transitioning or dating anyone who's transitioning.
 
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Bisexual girl I'm dating just casually drops that she wouldn't mind dating me if I transitioned.
I saw I saw the TV glow with her, and we debated how much of it was an allegory for being trans vs just generally being true to oneself
Is this a red flag, genuinely? She says she doesn't really mind labels and even considered being transmasc two years ago, which I don't mind but it makes our trans talks very awkward to remember
I think that's an odd thing to bring up to someone regardless of context. I would be careful. Those types seem to like prompting this sort of stuff.

On a personal level, I would take being told that as them admitting they'd like for me to.
 
Bisexual girl I'm dating just casually drops that she wouldn't mind dating me if I transitioned.
I saw I saw the TV glow with her, and we debated how much of it was an allegory for being trans vs just generally being true to oneself
Is this a red flag, genuinely? She says she doesn't really mind labels and even considered being transmasc two years ago, which I don't mind but it makes our trans talks very awkward to remember
Women just do whatever to attract a man. If she is genuinely interested in you and you tell her that shit is retarded she'll drop it.
 
Women just do whatever to attract a man. If she is genuinely interested in you and you tell her that shit is retarded she'll drop it.
Pretty sure "Less Than Zero" is a woman.
I agree though that if someone's super into you, they might be more willing to drop previously held beliefs. But it's honestly not worth the time/energy in my opinion.
 
Tbh, I don’t need them to be anti-trans. I just need them to allow for a difference in opinion on it without labeling an evil Nazi bigot scum.

Probably a lost cause. You’re right
You have to understand that people who get hardcore into the trans cult see themselves in something like a doomsday struggle against an absolute evil. If you put one toe out of line you are proving that you are at best an unwitting pawn of absolute evil and at worst an avatar of evil that needs to be destroyed at all costs. You can't really reason with someone who thinks like this, once you have outed yourself as The Enemy (and it takes very little to do this) they aren't going to listen to anything you have to say.
 
I could probably convince her otherwise but she has lots of gay/queer friends so maybe it wouldn't be worth the effort, idk
If she has a lot of tranny friends, then it's pretty much pointless.
You can still be friends with her, but I wouldn't recommend building a life with someone who thinks chopping up your genitals is a perfectly normal and sane thing to do. Imagine what she'd do to your kids if you had them with her.
 
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You can still be friends with her, but I wouldn't recommend building a life with someone who thinks chopping up your genitals is a perfectly normal and sane thing to do. Imagine what she'd do to your kids if you had them with her.
As much as it's bizarre that she told @Less Than Zero "hey it's cool if you poon out FYI," that's overshadowed her saying that she considered being FtM herself.

That's something to note if you're looking for a life partner. If they had a kid, if there were job stresses, or medical or midlife crisis--she's got pooning out to fall back on.

A period of trans-questioning doesn't necessarily mean someone isn't marriage material, but it needs a lot of scrutiny. The fact that she's still buying into the trans phenomenon, bringing it up unprompted as an option for OP, means she hasn't truly ruled it out for anyone, including herself.

If a partner discloses they had an alcohol history, there's a similar risk that they'll fall back in when times get hard... and it's something a couple can be aware of and work against. However, with substance use you have treatment and counselor options, and you have all of society agreeing it's a problem. If a partner has a trans history, faces stress and falls back into that hole again, a good chunk of society and The System will affirm them and damn you all the time they spiral away from your relationship.
 
If a partner discloses they had an alcohol history, there's a similar risk that they'll fall back in when times get hard... and it's something a couple can be aware of and work against. However, with substance use you have treatment and counselor options, and you have all of society agreeing it's a problem. If a partner has a trans history, faces stress and falls back into that hole again, a good chunk of society and The System will affirm them and damn you all the time they spiral away from your relationship.
One of the things that a lot of older people will tell you is that the most important decision you make in your life will be who you marry. No one is perfect, but I think what Aunt Carol pointed out is very important. A large part of society still doesn't recognize transgenderism as the problem that it is. Trannies also tend to be fairly narcissistic, and they can react to stressors by claiming it's actually not their fault at all, that anything that goes wrong is just because of their internalized transphobia and inability to be who they truly are. You wouldn't date a schizophrenic who thinks they're a shape-shifting werewolf and blames their inability to hold a job on the fact they're a shape-shifting werewolf. So why would you date someone delusional enough to think they can change sex and blames all their problems on it?
 
If she has a lot of tranny friends, then it's pretty much pointless.
You can still be friends with her, but I wouldn't recommend building a life with someone who thinks chopping up your genitals is a perfectly normal and sane thing to do. Imagine what she'd do to your kids if you had them with her.
It's pretty much impossible to be a non obnoxious zoomer and have LGBT friends
I don't really care about that as much as how she personally feels about the issue, for reasons you said. Her mentality is kind of like what mine was, very "live and let live" which I'm personally still trying to shake off if my posts here tell anything
 
It's pretty much impossible to be a non obnoxious zoomer and have LGBT friends
I don't really care about that as much as how she personally feels about the issue, for reasons you said. Her mentality is kind of like what mine was, very "live and let live" which I'm personally still trying to shake off if my posts here tell anything
Having gay friends is fine. But I'm a zoomer and I personally don't befriend trannies, or at least I keep any trannies I encounter at a distance as acquaintances, not friends. "Live and let live" is a terrible mentality because it's how we ended up with the current state of the fucked up world we live in. "Live and let live" when it comes to men entering female spaces, "live and let live" when it comes to thinking opening your marriage is a great idea to spice it up only for it to end up in terrible divorce (r/openmarriageregret), "live and let live" when it comes to "not kinkshaming" and having diaperfurs rent out a museum for a diaperfur convention while there were still regular museum goers (this actually happened, called "Space Camp" or something like that). We should be against things that are bad for society.

Too many of our generation seem to lack principles. You should be strict when it comes to deciding a life partner. Divorce is expensive. Some of my principles are health, honesty, and freedom. I believe a lot of porn/kink/trans shit being pushed is not healthy, and while one may say "but people should have the freedom to do it", I don't think doctors have the freedom to encourage something that they know is not healthy, as that goes against the physician code of ethics. It's for that reason we don't perform lobotomies anymore, and people did think lobotomies made patients happier at first, but that's because being dumbed down to retard-level intelligence makes anyone appear "happy". No one argues in favor of "protecting the right to a lobotomy". HRT makes one euphoric, it's a drug, and I don't mean "I'm so euphoric because I'm myself", it literally boosts your mood chemically, and then once the reality sets in, a lot of trannies actually kill themselves post-surgery.

Other applications of my principles are that I believe we should strongly defend our freedom of speech, which I view cancel culture as an attack on. And I don't think we should have all the cancerous chemical additives we have in our food. Raising a child with a "live and let live, do whatever you want sweetie" attitude is how you end up raising terrible children, see Chris Chan for example. Discipline and maturity are good things. You should instill good values in your children and have good values yourself. I used to think boomers were being extreme when they called our generation "too soft", but I've been realizing lately that they're not wrong, we are. You cannot protect anything without a dislike of that which threatens said protection.
 
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You wouldn't date a schizophrenic who thinks they're a shape-shifting werewolf and blames their inability to hold a job on the fact they're a shape-shifting werewolf. So why would you date someone delusional enough to think they can change sex and blames all their problems on it?
Trans people like to characterize themselves as just uwu quirky and a little odd. Their behavior and personalities suggest otherwise.

Even the most charitable interpretation of dysphoria - "my body doesn't match my identity, who I am on the inside, and that deeply bothers me" - betrays the fact that it's not quirky or cute. It's an all-consuming obsession.

And if 41% of people with such an obsession would rather fucking remove themselves from the only life they get than not indulge in it, then they have far deeper mental problems.
 
Tbh, I don’t need them to be anti-trans. I just need them to allow for a difference in opinion on it without labeling an evil Nazi bigot scum.

Probably a lost cause. You’re right
Honestly, you're probably alright unless you're severely transphobic openly.

It's hard to say without knowing anything about the club nor seeing the email. But in my experience, most "transphobes need not apply" notices is essentially worthless junk only written to keep the token tranny happy. It's also worth keeping in mind that normies have a different idea of what a transphobe actually is compared to both chronically online trannies and kiwifarmers. If nothing else it's easier to ban the concept of a transphobe than it's to actually kick out someone you know from your club, so these type of purity rules usually aren't really enforced.

So I wouldn't personally write off the club yet. Don't let trannies ruin things for you without at least a bit of an fight.
 
Not sure where to post this so I thought here would be fine. Looks like there's a serious attempt to separate the LGB from the rest of the Tranny Menace.


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It's getting a decent amount of attention so I hope it actually results in some momentum. I have issues with the LGB as well but the TQ+ is a much larger problem to the point I'm willing to welcome this with open arms.
 
I think one of the worst phenomenon to come out of the whole tranny queerio movement is the fact that people simply aren't allowed to dislike anything or anyone anymore without being called an -ist/-phobe and threatened with doxxing/violence/losing their job. How on Earth does some random person online in another state/country making fun of [insert woke group here] "LITERALLY EQUATE TO FASCISM AND MAKE YOU FEEL UNSAFE"?

I was tempted to post this on my Instagram story, but I don't want to deal with retards DMing me arguing about how I need to accept poly nonbinarys "because they're just like me!":
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I should be allowed to dislike weird fat sex pests. But for some reason, it's only socially acceptable to shame them when they're "cis" men, though you're also not allowed to point out what ethnic group said men are a part of. And if the person sexually harassing you is a man who identifies as a neurodiverse polyamorous pansexual transwoman, then you're not allowed to call them out for it.

Being a creep also gets shielded with "sex positivity" now too. I was bewildered by the fact a male friend-of-a-friend would regularly try to convince said female friend to start an OnlyFans. It's now become socially acceptable to ask your friend to become an online prostitute.
 
Being a creep also gets shielded with "sex positivity" now too. I was bewildered by the fact a male friend-of-a-friend would regularly try to convince said female friend to start an OnlyFans. It's now become socially acceptable to ask your friend to become an online prostitute.
I hate how acceptable it is to talk about porn now. A friend’s husband casually mentions it every time I see him, even at a dinner with his own mother there, and he sees it as a solution to every problem, e.g. CK’s killer should have just gone and looked at porn instead. Women seem to think if they have a problem with it they won’t be able to find a man, and they have to be the cool wife/girlfriend, sometimes telling their female friends they’re too possessive if they don’t want their husbands to watch it. Crabs in a bucket come to mind. At the same time, it’s often better not to react because I think these types of men and women get off on shocking you. If you have to watch it, shouldn’t it be between you and your wife/husband/whatever? If you’re both cool with it then whatever, I just don’t want to be involved in that shit.
 
I've noticed something about troons. They don't like bisexuals at all. Is the way to reject troons is by saying you are bisexual when you aren't?
 
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