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Should be a wild four years.

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Didn’t Trump sign a bill saying if a facility makes Corona injection mandatory, it won’t get Medicare or Medicaid?
Indirectly.
ROHIBITING COVID-19 VACCINE MANDATES IN SCHOOLS: Today, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order to prohibit federal funding for COVID-19 vaccine mandates in schools.

  • The Order bars federal funds from being used to support or subsidize an educational service agency, state education agency, local education agency, elementary school, secondary school, or institution of higher education that requires students to have received a COVID-19 vaccination to attend in-person education programs.
  • The Secretary of Education and the Secretary of Health and Human Services must issue guidelines for compliance and provide a plan to end coercive COVID-19 vaccine mandates, including a report on non-compliant entities and a process for preventing federal funds from supporting educational entities that impose COVID-19 vaccine mandates.
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This includes healthcare education programs, like certifications and A.A.S. degrees, which use hospital contracts as a basis for vaccine requirements (due to clinical courses.) Also, federal funding is determined by following CMS, CDC, and other guidelines. So if they don’t listen to the feds, they’ll pull the reimbursements, their funding. It’s what Trump ran on and part of the reason Biden’s handlers and these governors changed their tune two years ago by reversing these mandatory injection policies. Trying to mandate these injections once graduates try to get a job still means they'd lose funding, but also the new hires they apparently desperately need.
 
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I made a map for how I think a civil war could play out.
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VA, MD, and DE will immediately be secured by the military to ensure be most critical aspects of the country are controlled. NJ and PA will join the Union out of principle, as would NH, ME, and CO. VT will maintain neutrality and avoid fighting. The remaining blue states all have strong political machines and will be able to hold out. Illinois will come under siege and fall quickly, while NY, Michigan, Washington, and Oregon will be the major battlegrounds. The Sierra Nevada and deserts will isolate Nevada and Arizona from conflicts with California. So Cal will probably fall quickly, but Nor Cal is likely to be the Democrat strong till the bloody end.
 
Catch The Rainbow said:
There was an independent black nation called the Kingdom of Dahomey that did pretty well. They sold slaves to the Europeans and practiced human sacrifice.
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Donald_J_Trump said:
The Songhai Empire was a 'black nation', however it was OVERWHELMING funded by the slave trade. Once the British put the kibosh on the slave trade, the Songhai fell apart in like a generation or two.
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No love for my niggas the Kingdom of Kongo? They met the Portuguese, converted to Christianity, and started larping as Portuguese. Their kings took on names like Joao and Afonso, and named their capital city Sao Salvador.

Oh, and they sold a metric fuckton of slaves. Just an absurd number of slaves. Good times.
 
Interesting how non-SJWs have more or less accurate views of what SJWs are like, because non-SJWs look at what SJWs say. Meanwhile, SJWs seem to have a rather distorted view of what non-SJWs "the far right" are like, because it seems they tend to stick to "echo chambers" and "woke"-friendly media where no speech they hate "hate speech" is there.

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ToroidalBoat said:
Interesting how non-SJWs have more or less accurate views of what SJWs are like, because non-SJWs look at what SJWs say. Meanwhile, SJWs seem to have a rather distorted view of what non-SJWs "the far right" are like, because it seems they tend to stick to "echo chambers" and "woke"-friendly media where no speech they hate "hate speech" is there.

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Looking at what they say is fucktarded.

They dont believe in objective reality. They believe in consensual reality that is created by power. If they say they believe X they may be telling you the truth. 2 years later they believe the opposite and you wonder what the fuck. But they dont believe in anything other than the consensus and power.

Ignore what they say view it in terms of enemy/friend and "what benefits me and my group the most" and it all clicks in.

What we are seeing is conservatives use their power to benefit their people, they arent used to this and are trying to counter, the appeals to free speech are a) for them, they deserve the power of free speech because they are good people as defined by the consensus they try to enforce and b) to drive a wedge in conservatives who dont realize that survival comes before abstract values.

Another more childish way to frame it is there is a big social game and they have constantly broken and skirted the rules and when the other team does it they try to bring up all the the times you gave them the riot act on cheating and arent you being hypocritical? The answer is no. Fuck em. I can press pause at random to throw you off too faggot.
 
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Will that be on all calendar is going forward and will Google and other woke calendar makers refuse to add it their calendars going forward?

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In the intent for fairness yes, but I'm terms of staying in power, they couldn't open the primary. They knew the tide was turning. Their best bet going into 2024 was having an uncontested incombent. If they opened the Primary it would have fractured the party. Joe Biden was a compromise candidate, that was probably only agreed upon because of a desperation to beat Trump. October 7th was more damaging to the Democratic party than to Israel, it threw the Progs off the reservation and they think they run things now. Had they been allowed to vote on a primary they'd be pushing a Libshit minority candidate worse than Kamala. If they didn't get it, they'd probably have fractured off the party or at least be extremely disenfranchised.

They didn't want an open primary but they didn't want Kamala either. They wanted to just throw someone on the stage at the DNC and never have the Progs thinking about who they'd choose, just crown someone and immediately hit them with media hype.

Karine Jean Pierre faked that Biden dropping out letter that endorsed Kamala. That wasn't the plan, the establishment was going to steal the nomination and the Progs fucked them over. That's why we had a few days where it wasn't really clear what was going to happen, the power brokers were trying to figure out how to deal with that wrench, and eventually decided stiffing Kamala was worse than running her.

Trump definitely would of won with out Butler. The really landmark thing was winning the popular vote. Twenty years ago that was agreed to pretty much be impossible for a Republican, they'd only ever win the electoral college. I don't know if Trump wins the Popular Vote with our Butler. There are 4 key things I think that lead to such a historic victory in 2024. Butler is a big one, but I think the Georgia Mugshot is just as significant. RFK Jr I don't think was as critical but I think it helped a lot, and lastly Kamala Harris is probably the worst main party candidate since maybe Mondale. No one comes even close in my lifetime. Making the decision to reveal KJP's fraud was really a lose lose situation, but I really think they would of lost less of they had snubbed Kamala and ran Newsom or Whitmore
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That's not what happened. The only reason Kamala was allowed to be the nominee after Joe dropped out was due to campaign finance law saying if a candidate drops out, ALL fucking money raised for the candidate had to be refunded ASAP. And the Democrats had already spent the bulk of Biden's warchest and couldn't fucking refund it meaning the replacement would be dead broke and the DNC staring down a MASSIVE scandal mid election.

The only way to avoid said scandal was to run Kamala as the law has a loophole saying you could keep the money if you simply swap the candidate for President with their VP.
 
Barleys said:
They're starting to call Trump a dictator and fascist again, this is the same rhetoric that got Charlie murdered. Hasnt even been a week and theyre already back on their shit.
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Why wouldn't they? If Trump clamps down hard on it helps feed into the lefts persecution complex and gives them something to rally around for the next election. Bonus points if other copycats assassinate prominent Republicans and makes Trump's picks continue to fumble and look incompetent.

The left can't win on policy, so they are going all in on being anti Trump while provoking him into feeding their Trump is Fascist rhetoric.
 
MirrorNoir said:
That's not what happened. The only reason Kamala was allowed to be the nominee after Joe dropped out was due to campaign finance law saying if a candidate drops out, ALL fucking money raised for the candidate had to be refunded ASAP. And the Democrats had already spent the bulk of Biden's warchest and couldn't fucking refund it meaning the replacement would be dead broke and the DNC staring down a MASSIVE scandal mid election.
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Wrong.

Occams razor.
Kamala was picked because of identity politics and because Biden lied to everyone and collapsed so late in the race, the DNC didn't have any choice except to pick her.

There was no financial scandal, at least at this inflection point of the race. There was no refunds on money already spent for Biden. Nor was there any chance that the DNC would be insolvent if the picked someone other the Kamala. They just would have had to refund everyone and then try and raise the money again. There was however, a real threat that if they did refund the money, they would not be able to recollect the donations 1:1 since people may not enjoy giving money to a candidate they never voted for in the primaries.


Kamala was chosen because Biden dropped out so late in the race that there was no time for a messy drawn out legal fight over campaign laws and they were scared about picking someone else for idealogical reasons. The larger issue was that many states locked up their ballots long before Biden crashed out on stage. Democrats would have to petition the conservative-majority SCOTUS to allow them to put another candidate on the ballot, one who wasn't primaried and only chosen by delegates. As you can imagine, the odds of getting a verdict in their favor was slim. There were smaller technical issues with the DNC delegates for Biden too but the large issue was the state ballots deadlines had passed.

Then theres the idealogical problem that came with the possibility of passing over the first female brown VP candidate on the ticket for a white man or woman. Given the turbocharged woke movement, the saturation of identity politics and purity tests, passing over Kamala for Gavin Newsom, Prizker or Shapiro would have torn the party apart.
 
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Illinois will come under siege and fall quickly
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Illinois will split apart, it's blue because of Cook County and the Chicago metro area. Our fat fuck, alien loving "governor" won 12 of the 102 counties last election, downstate IL is deep red for the most part, and no one in the downstate is going to fight for Chicago and their hordes of shit skins. Hell, even some Chicago niggers are starting to figure out that they're becoming second class citizens in their own shit hole city, maybe they'll come around.

Either way, Illinois is not a monolith, it's a deeply divided state dominated by one huge metro area.
 
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