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I've been thinking on the ethics of self harm and suicide and have been thinking about how wider society is leaning more towards a pro-suicide mentality. The thought is usually something along this line:
1. It doesn't hurt anyone else
2. You can do whatever you want with your body.
The counterargument to suicide is something along this:
1. It hurts yourself.
2. It inevitably hurts other people.
Although most people are anti-suicide, there's definitely a pro-suicide mentality that's starting to arise. There's a number of factors but the one thing is that society doesn't think of itself like a family unit. Instead, people are taught to think of themselves as autonomous units that can do whatever they wish without affecting the wider whole of society.
Like how man eventually falls into sin after eating the fruit of the tree, man falls more and more away from the traditions and structure that was originally there, and instead become more atomized.
I like to think of bananas as another example of this. Why bananas? Well, because:
1. Bananas are mostly imported from countries in central America, as opposed to being locally grown.*
2. Bananas use cheap labor to be able to be affordable in grocery stores.
3. People don't need bananas to live. There are other fruits that provide the same nutrition that bananas have.
*I was going to say "bananas aren't grown in the US" but they apparently are in Florida and Hawaii. Most are imported so the point still mostly stands.
But what happens if you tell an American that bananas would be more expensive even if it meant paying laborers an affordable wage?
They'll basically think you're ridiculous for trying to take away their bananas.
"I don't care about that. I just want my bananas."
Consooming bananas is all that matters to them.
Of course, most people use people's ignorance of where their food comes from to their advantage. But I still get surprised when people admit they know what is happening, and they don't care. Like a weird, collective thing where everyone is out for themselves. The individual person is all that matters.
Obviously there are exceptions to this rule, but they are almost entirely a few minor lone people that don't think like this but are overrun by the hedonistic whole, or communities that are already branched off from wider society (and are almost always religious in nature.)
Maybe there was a time in human history where people were more atomized, but I can't think of one. Even during other times in capitalist America, people still could have a family or a local church to fall back on. This doesn't really happen anymore. Even social services are very corporatized.
Anyway point is that recent history has shown a trend where people are taught to act like children where the world revolves around them, and it's probably going to get worse for future generations.
1. It doesn't hurt anyone else
2. You can do whatever you want with your body.
The counterargument to suicide is something along this:
1. It hurts yourself.
2. It inevitably hurts other people.
Although most people are anti-suicide, there's definitely a pro-suicide mentality that's starting to arise. There's a number of factors but the one thing is that society doesn't think of itself like a family unit. Instead, people are taught to think of themselves as autonomous units that can do whatever they wish without affecting the wider whole of society.
Like how man eventually falls into sin after eating the fruit of the tree, man falls more and more away from the traditions and structure that was originally there, and instead become more atomized.
I like to think of bananas as another example of this. Why bananas? Well, because:
1. Bananas are mostly imported from countries in central America, as opposed to being locally grown.*
2. Bananas use cheap labor to be able to be affordable in grocery stores.
3. People don't need bananas to live. There are other fruits that provide the same nutrition that bananas have.
*I was going to say "bananas aren't grown in the US" but they apparently are in Florida and Hawaii. Most are imported so the point still mostly stands.
But what happens if you tell an American that bananas would be more expensive even if it meant paying laborers an affordable wage?
They'll basically think you're ridiculous for trying to take away their bananas.
"I don't care about that. I just want my bananas."
Consooming bananas is all that matters to them.
Of course, most people use people's ignorance of where their food comes from to their advantage. But I still get surprised when people admit they know what is happening, and they don't care. Like a weird, collective thing where everyone is out for themselves. The individual person is all that matters.
Obviously there are exceptions to this rule, but they are almost entirely a few minor lone people that don't think like this but are overrun by the hedonistic whole, or communities that are already branched off from wider society (and are almost always religious in nature.)
Maybe there was a time in human history where people were more atomized, but I can't think of one. Even during other times in capitalist America, people still could have a family or a local church to fall back on. This doesn't really happen anymore. Even social services are very corporatized.
Anyway point is that recent history has shown a trend where people are taught to act like children where the world revolves around them, and it's probably going to get worse for future generations.