Charlie Kirk: Aftermath, Gravedancing, and Manhunt

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He's your dad. Just agree that there are some political subjects you don't talk about, and move forward like that. If he won't stop bringing shit up, just laugh and shrug or feign ignorance ("Charlie Kirk? Never heard of him. DEI? Is that one of those new Korean rock bands? Anyway, crazy weather we're getting these days, huh?")

Model to your own kids that family bonds are more important than disagreements about stupid shit.
Wow, this sounds like my husband. He’s great at the playing dumb game with his liberal relatives.

You are so right. Family bonds are more important.
 
Fuck. Them. SUFFER, MOTHER FUCKERS. The world needs plenty of Uber drivers.
Well at least they’ll be able to do that when Trump finishes kicking out all of the illegals that drive for Uber. In a way they should be thanking him and that absolute mad lad that’s running ICE.

Antifa is now a terrorist organization. The winning is endless!
And remember, we don’t negotiate with terrorists. Can’t wait to see those bike lock wielding motherfuckers black bagged and sent to Cuba.
 
but many on the right want the same thing for the left.
I am sick of jewish monkeys like you constantly perpetuating the bullshit that the RIGHT WANTS MUH LEFT DEAD despite the fact FOR DECADES the left has tried to subvert American society from within and has gotten innocents ( mainly whites) killed because of them letting wild nigger monkeys loose on the populace ( again, mainly on the majority white populace). Or the fact the left in most parts of the world are infamous for being subversives that ruin societies from within with Marxist/communist bullshit. Atp if the left gets massacred most of the sane and rational Americans wouldn't give a shit about what happens to them. Oh and one last little thing.

I would rather live under another mussolini,hitler, pinochet, Franco than under lenin,stalin, hot pot and Mao.
 
“Defending your position by citing free speech is a concession”-I mean? Sure? But that cuts both ways though-if you want to argue for marginalized, offensive or unpopular views-sincerely or as a bit-then free speech is your protection in a liberal society to do so.

In theory anyway-people have the right to say what they want, even if it’s otherwise morally or intellectually indefensible. “By hiding behind free speech you admit your ideas have no merit”

More “I hide behind free speech because it protects me from reprisal-if you think my ideas are meritless-feel free to prove me wrong-you’ve got just as much right as me”.

Of course in principle it doesn’t work that way-some things are so intolerable that most people are never going to entertain them or remotely even feel the need to do so(legalizing pedophilia) (and rightly so at that)-in which case yes that argument holds some weight.

But ideally…it should be more than that. If all you want to do however is pollute the public discourse, spread lies, dissension, and strife-then it is true, free speech is the only justification you have.

Cheering about a man’s death and mocking his wife and children-fits the latter category. You may (for the moment) have the right to do this-but the rest of society definitely doesn’t have to put up with it. That goes for cheering murder in general-yeah no fired, foreclosed, evicted.

I mean ideally this sort of speech would be more tightly censured-people should face far harsher consequences for this besides losing a job-but losing a job is honestly extremely lenient given some of the things that have been said.
 
You know a point that often gets repeated is that the reason why right wingers are going so hard on leftists is because they're cheering for the death of a good man with non-extremist, even moderate politics which they could relate to (fair assessment, and this is the actual motivation I'd agree), but would there really be any right-wing American politician a radical could get away with killing that would make people not care? And instead make them go "Oh yeah you can cheer for that guy dying no one really cares dude". I'd say generally people are always going to react poorly to political violence outside of extreme autocratic instances, so I don't really think so 🤔
If Tiny got killed live on stream I don't think anyone would care tbh
 
My biggest concern is that MSM and leftist social media control so much of the narrative that they will use the ADL and SPLC as their sources for what is and what is not a "real" terrorist organization as well as use Wikipedia to help spin this as a "fridge" idea that Trump is implementing
Yeah, with Wikipedia it's obvious that some of the sources are way too biased, they've always been keeping the narrative shifted, especially with the 'extra layer of bullshit' protection on the page.

Most of the sources (unsurprisingly) seem to still be coming from News articles and the obvious suspects, dating from all the way back in 2019-2020.

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he treads carefully on the line of gravedancing by saying that Charlie was a father with kids and friends and to give people grace while they're mourning without uttering the words "he didn't deserve it" and "political violence is reprehensible no matter the target" and then immediately proceeds to seethe over some of Charlie's quotes.
"Gravedancing" to you faggots is any and all critique of Charlie being made after his death. Funny how you're just not allowed to quote the things Charlie actually said while he was alive now that he's dead, I wonder why? maybe because the things he said while he was alive were actually controversial
 
>Antifa gonna get financially deplatformed sicko mode style
>Libtard camerafags not allowed to actively lie allow more
>Woketards getting cancelled


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It's all within the rules of engagement and proportional response. There are no rules, they've made that clear. It's naive and boomer-brained to believe otherwise. Realpolitik? More like real-deez-nutz.
 
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This is what I needed to hear. Thank you.

After we got heated and then had rejoined my family and presumed acting like nothing happened, he said on his own, “but hey I don’t want us to be angry with eachother, let’s just not talk about that stuff.” And we hugged and made up, until he brought it up again the next day.

There is part of him at least somewhat willing to put it aside.
That's gonna be the most testing thing here: your irrational, angry parent constantly setting out the boundaries of topics of conversation and then breaking them. Again. And again. And again. It took me about 3 years to forego the huge twinge of anger and just admire the ridiculousness of it all.
 
"Gravedancing" to you faggots is any and all critique of Charlie being made after his death. Funny how you're just not allowed to quote the things Charlie actually said while he was alive now that he's dead, I wonder why? maybe because the things he said while he was alive were actually controversial
Oh my god, he preached milquetoast christian beliefs such as Abortion being murder, that marriage is biblically held between man and woman. He was a moderate right leaning conservative who believed in them.

Majority of people here have openly said here "We don't care if you didn't like Charlie. You don't need to shed tears for him. But celebrating it, calling for more murders, and shitting on the guy without a single fucking example of why he deserved it, we will not tolerate your disgusting revelry for political violence."

Please, tell me what he said that was controversial that wasn't already mainstream on the right? Or maybe, just maybe. Charlie Kirk was effective at what he did. Taking the discussions to College Campuses and spoke to the youth that was impressionable. Who've been indoctrinated by extreme left professors and cultures that REJECT AND PUNISH those who questioned it. He challenged people by allowing them an open mic to discuss and debate. Where the hell are the rest of the Liberal left doing the same? Challenging the right narrative with an open mic without falling to the same "whataboutism" or "you're a white supremacist."
 
It'll be interesting to see if this leftist attempt at a boycotting Disney has any effect, I really couldn't say.
However if this attempt has no effect it'll be pretty damaging to the image the left has created of being the arbiters of what's allowed by corporations. Reminds me of the Hogwarts Legacy boycott. I don't think I'm wrong in saying the social power of troons was took a big hit when that failed pathetically.
 

Seeing openly antifa adjacent accounts promote the Mossad theory and try to claim it was a groyper/Fuentes is compromised confirms this.

Anyone claiming “Mossad hit”-is either being duped or is intentionally in an alignment with Antifa. (A casual read of TRS related material would confirm this beyond any doubt).

The motive is obvious-it distracts and divides conservatives, when half of them are pointing the finger at The Jews for killing the face of American conservative Zionism.

This is the sort of thing that makes me violently despise the anti Zionist right-Pax Tube, Striker, Peinovich, that mixed race Afro Swede, all of them are fundamentally Antifa aligned.
 
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I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.

Yes, there are people on the left who want the right dead.
Yes, there are people on the right who want the left dead.

But media is really good at trying to diminish the fact that most people don't actually want violence, most people want a reasonable solution to the problems we're facing. But reasonable doesn't make money, it doesn't create talking points for politicians to debate, it doesn't help push the status quo forward. People realizing they can connect on common ground or disagree with each other without it being a personal attack dismantles the illusion of urgency that things need to change or people will drip dead, or whatever the spin may be.

It's this urgency that life will be upended if things continue down this road that they sell. And sure, it might be right around the corner. But the years of conditioning people into thinking the end is nigh breeds violence, so we'll get people like Tyler Robinson who act upon it and then it confirms everything. But people didn't have to die.

The media is to blame for this. The establishment that has dismantled free speech and the ability to amicably disagree is to blame for this. And it will get worse because so many people are just accepting whatever talking head they prefer spoonfeeding this ideology. The ultra rich on both sides of the aisle are on the same side, the side that makes them money and keeps the peasants in line. Red or blue doesn't matter because they're all buddy buddy when they aren't showboating about how evil the other side is.

But I digress. We're gonna continue to spiral until something gives or we get plunged into war.
 
I never said that, but cheering for the exact cancer that I think is safe to say most of us all hate but in reverse is not only retarded but just makes you a weak faggot.
"erm actually if you defend yourself from a man who violently breaks into your house you're using violence too"

Shut up, faggot
 
im so happy that the government is exerting pressure on private businesses to suppress protected speech! it was bad when people were losing their jobs for being tattled on for refusing to wear covid masks and saying nigger but now i finally see the danger of hate speech.
The government didn't fire him. He chose to say those words and his parent company chose to fire him.
 
Don't lose your humanity out there, y'all.
That’s a good sentiment but we live in a time where dehumanization is normalized-there are countless people who don’t see me as human at all.

I wish we lived in happier times, but we don’t.
 
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