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Shon Faye, who was once ubiquitous in UK trans activism has written quite the Substack post:

well, it's over

The assassination of Charlie Kirk, a man who once implied that doctors should electroshock and lobotomise trans women as they did in the 1950s, and used what would be his final breath to fearmonger about “trans shooters” (and Black people) before being shot dead himself, feels like a turning point. Namely, the fallout from it has shown plainly that the trans rights movement in the west, at least the liberal programme of legal reform and cultural representation pursued for the past decade, is as dead as Kirk.

In the days since his killing, the US right wing has fallen over itself to blame trans people or, as Alex Jones put it to his almost 5 million followers, “the tranny death cult”. Similar formulations can be found across social media. Trans people are terrorists, a death cult, like the Taliban, need to be socially ostracised and banned from transitioning. And we all know there is only one type of trans person most of these people are imagining when they call for us to be electroshocked, shunned, and – let’s be real – beaten and killed. And that’s trans women.

It's over. There and here in the UK. Today I doubt I will see another progressive measure (either in legislation or healthcare policy) put in place for trans people in my lifetime. Who knows what may yet be taken away. In the UK, the terf campaign groups make their goals quite clear: they would like transition banned before the age of 25 and for trans women to be compelled to carry male government ID in all contexts. Once the EHRC guidance banning us from all women’s groups and spaces across society is in place, they intend to sue organisations and service providers that don’t exclude us. Right now, I think it’s best to assume all these things are a likely prospect in the next ten years.

In the community itself there’s been a definite shift in the way we speak about the future. The middle-class trans micro-economy that boomed in the 2010s: Pride month corporate sponsorship, jobs at LGBT charities, DEI talks and panels, diversity modelling and ad campaigns, progressive theatre, educational books about being trans etc, which some of us used to make a living, has gone. A friend and I used to riff on the old Susan Stryker joke that as a trans woman you must commodify yourself one way or another: it’s either escorting or the diversity and inclusion panel. The friend (a sex worker) always said she found more dignity (and better money) in the former.

I’ve moved through the personal disappointment about the fact we are no longer fashionable or marketable and come to acceptance about the way in which the trajectory of my more mainstream career will now likely plateau. I am, by any metric, already a successful author, and will continue to write books, but I suspect that in the next decade I will see the cis women and gay men I consider my peers eclipse me in both earnings and opportunity as the profound stigma against trans women means doors close to me. So be it. These are bougie problems to have.

In the brief oasis of the past ten years, I funded my medical transition and created financial security for myself. I have been able to train in a fall-back career in case the writing all gets too much, and I could pay for the training using savings from my book royalties and past speaking engagements (when there was still a market for those). I have secure housing, sobriety, access to therapy. These are the wildest dreams of many transsexuals past and present. I’m scared and very angry but I’m broadly OK.

In the UK, we – transsexuals - are about to become significantly less employable as a class. Especially trans women. The segregation law and reduced access to medical care have rendered us ‘undesirables’ and this will affect how we make money to survive.

The premium on passing is as high as it was in the 1960s (the electroshock conversion therapy era Charlie Kirk wistfully longed for). Passing offers a flimsy form of acceptance based on being presumed to be something other than you are. I see passing dolls bragging about it all the time now – insecurity and fear transmuted into intracommunity meanness. It’s really nothing to feel superior about – it’s merely a different form of inferiority to enjoy safety and dignity in public only because you’re presumed to form part of the oppressor class. A class that, by the way, is contriving to make sure your ability to truly pass is as patchy as possible, by outing you at every official and institutional turn.

I see trans women online blaming the NGOs (like Stonewall) and more discursive trends that tended to frame ‘transness’ as a matter of individual self-expression and cosmopolitan values than a material need (the right to access medical transition and to live and work in safety). I am broadly in agreement with recent observations made by the formidable Jules Gill-Peterson in this respect about the need to restore the centrality of class-based analysis to transsexual politics: transitioning medically makes you significantly poorer and any trans politics should start there.

I do think that, in the UK context, the all-encompassing focus on the Gender Recognition Act reform from 2017 to 2020 was a grave mistake. I worked at Stonewall in those precise years myself – largely because it was one of the few places I felt I could work – and even at the time could sense this liberal priority of legal recognition was only entrenching the authority of the state and of capricious politicians. But my trans colleagues (all in relatively junior roles - trans women never occupied significant influence at Stonewall) also did genuinely good work in NHS stakeholder groups on healthcare access and with schools. It was a job. And as oblivious as the well-meaning cis gays and others who do not medically transition can be, they are not responsible for the insane, well-funded Christian evangelist movement which has decided to make trans people public enemy number one. Let’s remember that.

I don’t have a positive note to end on. “Trans joy” – often demanded at the end of the now deceased diversity panel – is also dead (thank God). I realised in therapy recently that I avoid discussing all this with cis friends and family as their instinct is to try and generate hope or minimise despair, but it typically minimises the gravity of the situation and the depth of my grief and exhaustion and fear - increasing my resentment. I am learning to live alongside a new kind of anger. I don’t want to hear the fucking platitudes or false equivalences. There’s time for hope later. I have survived addiction and sexual violence and men who claimed to like me fetishising me and major surgeries I spent years financing and underwent completely alone. I’ll survive whatever happens. The transsexual life requires a degree of tenacity I think most cis people can’t even conceive of. Trans women are expected to put a brave face on everything! They’re calling for vigilante violence against us on the news. Let me have my fucking grief!

This isn't particularly funny - I'm aware that this thread exists mostly for entertainment - but I thought it was an interesting milestone worth recording here.

His observation that the trans movement has failed is perfectly correct, but his analysis for why it failed in the UK still clings to the fantasy that "a well-funded Christian evangelist movement" has defeated them. I can hardly convey to non-Brits how marginal Christian evangelism is in the UK. It's a bunch of cults/churches that prey on the poor and uneducated and have next to zero influence anywhere. They just can't face the simple fact that it was feminists that put a stop to their project.

BONUS RETRO CONTENT

Faye mentions his pal Jules Joanne Gleeson in the piece. Four years ago the two of them did an online panel together, which is here:


Do you want to listen to an hour and a half of Marxist trannies discussing trans Marxism? Of course you don't. However, pick a random time in the whole film and watch a bit of it with the sound off and just marvel at the body language of the four of them.
 
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Can women not be chasers?

Seems even tifs aren't safe from perverted women
 
Their logic is very confusing.
Tranny chasers for mtf wants a futa/"girl with a cock" and thus chase the cock, but chasing the cock doesn't affirm that they're true and honest women and thus are icky gross perverts and equal to or worse than transphobes. They have a similar disdain for bisexuals because bisexuals make them paranoid they're attracted their "sex assigned at birth" and not their "true and honest gender". Anything that breaks the illusion for them is considered evil even if they alienate the only group that even remotely wants them.
 
Tranny chasers for mtf wants a futa/"girl with a cock" and thus chase the cock, but chasing the cock doesn't affirm that they're true and honest women and thus are icky gross perverts and equal to or worse than transphobes. They have a similar disdain for bisexuals because bisexuals make them paranoid they're attracted their "sex assigned at birth" and not their "true and honest gender". Anything that breaks the illusion for them is considered evil even if they alienate the only group that even remotely wants them.
It would be hilarious if they weren't such evil cunts.
 
Tranny chasers for mtf wants a futa/"girl with a cock" and thus chase the cock, but chasing the cock doesn't affirm that they're true and honest women and thus are icky gross perverts and equal to or worse than transphobes. They have a similar disdain for bisexuals because bisexuals make them paranoid they're attracted their "sex assigned at birth" and not their "true and honest gender". Anything that breaks the illusion for them is considered evil even if they alienate the only group that even remotely wants them.
I think a lot of their problem comes from the fact that the troons are looking for lurve/someone to take them home to meet the parents, and the chasers are either straight up about only wanting them for weird sex stuff - or lie about their intentions but only want them for weird sex stuff.

I can see why they don't like them tbh.
Occasionally they get ones who do intent to actually date them, but they are also clear about only dating troons, and open for their passion for them and only them, which also trips up the troon as its clear they aren't seen as women.
Yes the person will be in a proper relationship with them, but yes they are usually a total freak and don't have any family or wider community to introduce the troon to. Part of why they are happy about pursuing their obsession with their own autistic intensity.
 
It's probably a bit more complicated than that. Trannies may have a lot of commonalities but trying to fit them all into the same situation is just self delusion.
 
Losing a lot of money is devastating and anyone trying to come back from it will need grit, discipline, and support. And a banging pair of tits and a fancy new vajayjay, of course.

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Should I or should I not?​

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Okay, I was duped and got taken for my nest egg 😢, I was a fool and I was trying to be nice and help others as I always have and still want to but it took me financially devastated and out for the count, I’m 23 months in on GAHT and I literally just turned 65 , my life is an absolute Soup Sandwich now and I have lost my funds for my affirmation procedures to continue and I don’t want to be I have had someone suggest to me that I should have a go fund cause and get the funds for my surgeries, I have never in my life asked for anything but not I’m disabled and on fixed income without a car , I get at on a bike and I’m in a new state and don’t know what to do, so what do you ladies think? I’m not asking for money here I’m just trying to get some options and ideas on what to do These are some scary times were in and of course I’m not a raving beautiful and I’ve had some scary encounters, just saying Thank you in advance for any solid advice

Please do the GFM and tell us how you lost the nestegg. Please.
 
This isn't particularly funny - I'm aware that this thread exists mostly for entertainment - but I thought it was an interesting milestone worth recording here.

His observation that the trans movement has failed is perfectly correct, but his analysis for why it failed in the UK still clings to the fantasy that "a well-funded Christian evangelist movement" has defeated them. I can hardly convey to non-Brits how marginal Christian evangelism is in the UK. It's a bunch of cults/churches that prey on the poor and uneducated and have next to zero influence anywhere. They just can't face the simple fact that it was feminists that put a stop to their project.
I mean, to a certain degree I find it funny, but in the sense that it represents exactly the type of distortion and Marxism fetishization that trannies do all the time to kludge their incredibly bourgeois needs into leftist politics.

Faye is wrong, trans people are not a class in the Marxist definition. Class framework has been expanded by many thinkers beyond the root of just proletariat, petty bourgeois, bourgeois, etc. but fundamentally what makes a class a class in Marxist analysis is the relationship to the means of production. Broadly, what matters is how your labor or position mediates the production, circulation, and appropriation of value. It is not about the specific set of needs you have, that is a rights based framing that is essentially liberal (in the classic philosophical sense of the word) in origin.

Saying "the right to transition is about class, because trans people are often poor" is wrong. You can recognize the needs of certain groups within classes (thought in this case calling it a need is pushing it), but what matters is what you produce, and the list he gave is essentially that trans people are ancillary and parasitic. They shunt resources to themselves because of the ideological commitment of productive structures to trans people. Can trans people not work factory floors (probably not with the health complications many have)?

This is one of those places where you can see that the idea that "trans liberation" is a general good for other groups or even the working class is wrong. Look at what he stated, diverting money to trans people did not produce more goods or services for the general society, it did not broadly change resource flows, it just shunted money to trannies and let them get invasive consoooomer surgeries.
 
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Faye is wrong, trans people are not a class in the Marxist definition. Class framework has been expanded by many thinkers beyond the root of just proletariat, petty bourgeois, bourgeois, etc. but fundamentally what makes a class a class in Marxist analysis is the relationship to the means of production. Broadly, what matters is how your labor or position mediates the production, circulation, and appropriation of value. It is not about the specific set of needs you have, that is a rights based framing that is essentially liberal (in the classic philosophical sense of the word) in origin.
Classical Marxism has now largely been replaced by Critical Theory and Queer Theory in troon circles, which teaches that oppression comes from social class instead of economic class, and of course troons are Oppressed and Marginalized(TM).
 
A new addition to the lore. Testosterone makes you angry but only if you have a female brain!?!?!?!
Well late but whatever. To be fair to the dipshit ... kinda? Though the brain must be XX brain.

Testosterone makes everyone angry and more impulsive, but does hit women a hell of a lot harder - blokes have had constant training in controlling that shit since well before puberty.
 
BONUS RETRO CONTENT

Faye mentions his pal Jules Joanne Gleeson in the piece. Four years ago the two of them did an online panel together, which is here:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=HpB5cdC68cADo you want to listen to an hour and a half of Marxist trannies discussing trans Marxism? Of course you don't. However, pick a random time in the whole film and watch a bit of it with the sound off and just marvel at the body language of the four of them
Went on a random timestamp just to see the beautiful women on the panel and what they were talking about
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Bottom left went on an 11 minute long uninterrupted speech about transgenderism and Marxism, sounding and looking like he's going to burst into tears at any moment. It's clear that none of his fellow panelists were listening to more than a few words. The cavetroll on the top right was eating and drinking during the speech, while Mr 5 o'clock shadow at the bottom right was stroking his cat and adjusting the camera so people could see the cat better. Top left was more clearly not giving a shit about what was being said, the only thing he did was look at his own reflection and try to fix up his hair like the insecure male he is. Part of me wonders if Mr 5 o'clock shadow was trying to look like some kind of "femme fatale" type while top left was secretly preening about "passing" better than his fellow men, not that it matters since he has a clockable fag voice.
 
Ubers are fantastic. I chose not to have a car for about 5 years and the transition to ride share occurred right as I choose to get a vehicle. I can tell you taxis were difficult to secure outside of a densely populated urban area (downtown), dirty, smelly, expensive, and unreliable. Let’s just I say I could walk a lot of my routes before I could get a ride. Taxi rides honestly felt less safe than riding public trans because I was alone with a foreign man who barely spoke English most times. And yellow had a monopoly so price gouging was a very real thing.
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Who in their right mind would use this shit to begin with?
 
Ubers are fantastic. I chose not to have a car for about 5 years and the transition to ride share occurred right as I choose to get a vehicle. I can tell you taxis were difficult to secure outside of a densely populated urban area (downtown), dirty, smelly, expensive, and unreliable. Let’s just I say I could walk a lot of my routes before I could get a ride. Taxi rides honestly felt less safe than riding public trans because I was alone with a foreign man who barely spoke English most times. And yellow had a monopoly so price gouging was a very real thing.
Don't want to derail the thread but honestly, I feel safer putting females into Uber than a taxi you know who exactly is picking them up beforehand so if anything does happen you know who to look at and from a financial POV I like that the price is agreed upon before you even step foot into the ride unlike Taxis who could jack up the price by taking "Short Cuts". Then there is as you mentioned the unreliability of taxis I have waited literally for an hour or more for a cab in the past where I have waited at most 20 minutes for an Uber usually it's within a few minutes. As I mentioned in an earlier post you can get a weird driver, but you can also with a taxi but bonus for Uber if it is a troon you'll know in advance when you get the name and pic when told your ride is coming so you can either cancel or prepare yourself.
 
First they came for Jimmy. Then Discord. Then ... :lit:
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The cards are on the table this week. It's in my opinion that soon subreddits, and discord channels like this will be destroyed, or heavily censored. Which means you will stop getting the information you need to stay up to date in the ways you need to.

If you have not already, reach out to other ways of staying connected with the trans and queer community. Locally would be best if safe/possible. Possibly messaging apps like Signal, Whatsapp, or even joining an email chain... Someone else may have something better to contribute here than I can, some clear direction.

This is close to a last call for you to push out and connect in other, more stable ways.
Scrolling down to one very interesting comment.
Definitely volunteering and connecting to local queer groups if safe to do so would be something I'd suggest. Frequenting support groups and building connections could be a safe starting point for some

But going out is not accessible to people who live in unsafe areas, people who are not out, or people who have physical/mental limitations. Which is why if anyone has a technological based direction, it would help this demographic who are already in a tech community space (reddit, discord etc.)
Emphasis added.
 
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