Argue with Kirk Posters about the Left

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Angelos32

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I think the dirty secret with steam is there are games out there(mostly indie is my guess) that are radically leftist/troon coded , and they congregate to these and form people like Robinson. I like steam and discord as well, but troons organizing on these sites is a known phenomenon/problem. Also something to point out is a lot of these communities are formed because there genuinely aren’t many troons in real life so the only option for any sort of community is through online spaces.
 
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I think the dirty secret with steam is there are games out there(mostly indie is my guess) that are radically leftist/troon coded , and their radical community congregates to these and form people like Robinson. I like steam and discord as well, but troops organizing on these sites is a known phenomenon/problem. Also something to point out is a lot of these communities are formed because there genuinely aren’t many troons in real life so the only option for any sort of community is through online spaces.
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"Chat, let me demonstrate how it works."
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I was kind of confused why Gabe was on the list of people brought before congress, since from my understanding he lets developers moderate forums and for the most part, doesn't censor anyone. I've never come across these games though so maybe the problem is a lot more persistent than I realize.
Personally I don't think the existence of those games is a problem in of itself, but they can act as a bridge to help congregate disparate troons together, or potentially act as a gateway for would-be troons into getting trooned out.

The online Left is sort of a self-sustaining creature. There's an interconnectedness between multiple different groups and platforms with as little overlap with non-troon affiliated groups as possible. In the Ian Daskins thread there was discussion over the fact he encouraged Leftists to keep to themselves. Ignoring the fact he said being a "progressive" meant you were morally and intellectually enlightened, he said:
(1) The right-wing will only ever approach you in bad faith (so don't ever engage with their criticism).
(2) Use communication with you as a means of trickery, either to embarrass or belittle your point of view. (For example, being asked to "explain" something is a means by which a right-winger can nitpick your ideology.)
(3) Are hoping to indoctrinate you to their ideology.

This rhetoric keeps their communities insular yet highly supportive of those considered "allies," which is why the aforementioned Ian Daskins is still pulling in 8k a month despite having 0 output content-wise and managed to pull in over a hundred grand in donations for not paying his taxes. This trend is observable all the time. Hbomberguy, Contrapoints, Philosophytube — minimal output, massive revenues. Giving money is a means for them to show support, help "their own" communities, and effectively LARP as a sort of online cooperative.

There are overt examples of "troon games" (outwardly gay, Leftist, tranny-filled, etcetera), and giving $20 to buy it says, "I love trannies!" and achieves the same, LARPy end as donating to a Youtube tranny does. Subsequently it may help them find a discord, or a hashtag, or community hub on reddit. Despite this I don't think non-troons are buying such games to begin with, for the same reason non-right-wingers aren't buying Steven Crowder mugs for purely apolitical reasons.

The bigger issue IMO is when they "annex" a portion of a non-troon game to make their own adjoining community. Then due to the overlap this allows them to infect non-troon community and spread a sort of ideological contagion. Dark Souls isn't really a "troon game", and the main community on Reddit doesn't show that, yet if you were to look for "Dark Souls memes" you'd find:
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Similar to how they appear to move like a swarm between certain Leftist influencers to show support, they manage to do the same when moving into non-Leftist communities and make them theirs.

However I don't think this takes place on Steam itself, where you can be more openly contentious. Moderators of AAA or AA game communities are usually picked put in place by a company so it's unlikely a tranny can get the position via nepotism and help maintain a hugbox. Indie games are more of an issue, but the moderation weight is small in comparison and there's likely far less engagement. Furthermore, moderators and users need to abide by Steam's rules regarding what can and cannot be posted (also online conduct rules), which puts things less on individual mod discretion and gives them a hard set of rules to follow.

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The main issue is one I raised in my post a while ago. I'm not sure to what extent Steam itself inspects these groups for discussion or the content therein but the reliance is mostly on users to do the moderating.

It's largely anecdotal, but even on games with large, troon-filled communities, engagement on Steam is minimal compared to elsewhere. And they're usually very limited with how they can present themselves.

One example: Signalis

Steam (161 in "Group chat" which requires Steam to use, can't be accessed just in your browser.)
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Rather than all content being visible to the user upfront, it's separated into tabs and the user cannot organise it to their own discretion. Since engagement isn't contained to a single feed like Twitter or Reddit, I think that gives less impetus for interaction.

Reddit
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The flag is upfront to the user giving the impression of the moderators ideological inclinations, but there's also two numbers on the right. The one on the left is the number of subscribers to the subreddit, the number on the right is the amount of content posted to the subreddit for that week. Which is more than the number of comments/upvotes than the highest rated piece of artwork on the Signalis steampage.
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All this is mostly to say: Troons mostly infect rather than create, and they're more likely to congregate and interact on platforms which make it easy to do so.
 
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The online Left is sort of a self-sustaining creature. There's an interconnectedness between multiple different groups and platforms with as little overlap with non-troon affiliated groups as possible. In the Ian Daskins thread there was discussion over the fact he encouraged Leftists to keep to themselves. Ignoring the fact he said being a "progressive" meant you were morally and intellectually enlightened, he said:
(1) The right-wing will only ever approach you in bad faith (so don't ever engage with their criticism).
(2) Use communication with you as a means of trickery, either to embarrass or belittle your point of view. (For example, being asked to "explain" something is a means by which a right-winger can nitpick your ideology.)
(3) Are hoping to indoctrinate you to their ideology.
The biggest offender of this is discord. Discord to me is the red string that ties it all together. In the past, parts of discord were broken up and compartmentalized; you had public forums on a website, skype for voice and then a teamspeak UI all on separate platforms. Unlike reddit, you can create your own server and community entirely online which can be private and accessible to no one. Instant echo chamber or grooming den. Worse, discord is targeted as a video game culture platform, sometimes even replacing forums all together, at children.

With reddit and even the KiwiFarms along with most public message boards, theres moderation because stuff is publicly posted. In discord its expected for the users to moderate and create their own rules, which, when you combine with degenerate trannies and leftists, results in a unmoderated community where violence breeds and kids get exposed to cartoon porn. Even facebook has better moderation than discord. Enforcement is lax as well due to tranny mods.

I have no idea what the solution is, but its a phenomenon thats crystalized for me lately.
 
I have no idea what the solution is, but its a phenomenon thats crystalized for me lately.
The solutions are tethered to obliterating online privacy (online safety act/Kids online safety act) or would take a long time to see the yields of since it'd involve tidying out subverted institutions — you'd pretty much have to eradicate Marxism and any ideology that sees the unwritten rules of society as a means to oppress and thus means they can exclude themselves from decency.

Follow the influences of Michael Foucault as well as those he influenced to get the basic gist of why the Left doesn't believe in keeping kids safe from being exposed to porn.
Michel Foucault argued that it is intolerable to assume that a minor is incapable of giving meaningful consent to sexual relations. Foucault also believed consent, as a concept, was a "contractual notion", and that it was not a sufficient measure of whether harm was being conducted. Foucault, Sartre, and newspapers such as Libération and Le Monde each defended the idea of sexual relationships with minors.
Freud also thought sexuality starts to develop from infancy, and Freud influenced Critical Theory due to his concepts of subjective reality and played a role in the development of Sexology, which has more or less infected every facet of the contemporary far-Left belief.
 
The solutions are tethered to obliterating online privacy (online safety act/Kids online safety act) or would take a long time to see the yields of since it'd involve tidying out subverted institutions — you'd pretty much have to eradicate Marxism and any ideology that sees the unwritten rules of society as a means to oppress and thus means they can exclude themselves from decency.

Follow the influences of Michael Foucault as well as those he influenced to get the basic gist of why the Left doesn't believe in keeping kids safe from being exposed to porn.

Freud also thought sexuality starts to develop from infancy, and Freud influenced Critical Theory due to his concepts of subjective reality and played a role in the development of Sexology, which has more or less infected every facet of the contemporary far-Left belief.
I've been struggling to convince friends this is all happening for a while now. CK's murder has renewed interest in how fucked the left is, so I gave a quick primer earlier. It's kind of sloppy and freestyled, but has some good examples for our state.
The purpose of Critical Theory, Critical Race Theory, and Queer Theory is essentially to deconstruct language to the point that words become untethered from their actual meanings.

With language disentangled from the reality the words represent, society can then be rewritten without the previous "constraints" in place. The constraints being things like safeguarding for women and children and laws against pedophilia, necrophilia, beastiality, etc.

For example, you ladies have certain sex-exclusive rights for your protection. One of those is your right to incarceration in a women's prison, free from men. We separated prisons by male/female to prevent men from raping women.

If society can somehow disentangle the word "woman" from the reality it represents, an actual woman--you--the sex binary dissolves, taking the safeguarding with it. Since no man can ever be a woman, no actual biological test can be used. So, something else is required to collapse the demarcation line between men and women.

In this case, the concept of "gender identity" was created. It's an unfalsifiable mind state, solely used to "validate" the "trans" identity. Neither "trans" or "gender" exists, much less identities for them, but that didn't stop the Democrats from enshrining "gender identity" into codified law.

Biology is the only way to differentiate male/female since that's what MAKES us male/female. Unfortunately, queer theorists have gotten enough adults to cosign "labels" as "social constructs" for "gender", i.e., "trans-woman", etc.

So, with "gender identity" on the books, anyone who says they are a woman is now a woman, legally of course. It reduces women to a feeling in a man's head. Worse, legislation gives him the sex-exclusive rights you once enjoyed as a woman. It has collapsed the safeguarding by dissolving any distinction since the reality, an actual man, is now represented by a different word; "woman."

Legally, there is no difference now. And violent male rapists now self-identify into women's prisons, where they've already raped the females.

I've been trying to explain the dangers of anti-reality beliefs that corrupt our language for a while now. I often cite these obvious examples, men in women's prisons, but my friends assure me not enough women have been raped yet to care.

Or that assigning their "labels" to men is actually harmless. I disagree, but only a handful of women seem to agree that "woman" should remain exclusive to them. Rest assured. I'm told this won't lead to a slippery slope. *rolls eyes*

With Queer Theory, normalizing sexual relationships with kids seems to be the goal. It views the prevention of such a thing as "oppressive." Destroying heteronormativity is a goal: anti-family, anti-white, anti-heterosexual, anti-monogamy, anti-consensual relationships, etc. It's exactly what the indoctrination/grooming in our public schools strives for.

It's a very dangerous movement that genuinely threatens our society's upheaval. And their radical ideologues are EVERYWHERE on the left, including MSM, universities, etc. It sucks to see it happening in real time because my lug head friends are leftist dipshits who can't conceive of such a thing.

Critical Theory and Critical Race Theory have similar mechanisms with language corruption. You've seen what happens when the youth associate civil discourse with "fascism" and Nazis, haven't you? If we don't shift to objective reality and soon, our society is easily collapsible. Men = women should've been the wake-up call, but I'm told it's NBD. My friends are fucking idiots.

Anyway, here's some of the curriculum from the queer theorists in our state that are 100% sexually grooming children. These are internal reviews for the sex ed material they teach. The website of this group supplying materials describes infants as "sexual beings."
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The glossary they use has tons of inappropriate sexual terms, including where they can find child sex abuse material, which should never be told to kids (wtf).
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Of all the perverted, unnecessary sexual terms in the glossary, one useful one is noticeably absent:
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No results for grooming. You know, because it would describe their entire course. Some of their linked academic papers are written by actual pedophiles in Europe, too.

Anyway, sorry for the information dump. If you or friends have kids in public schools in lefty states, pull them out, for sure. It's not some baseless conspiracy or something I'm guessing on. The left is infested with these people and they are actively sabotaging our society.

But every leftist source will run cover for it, obviously. Leftist friends can be shown or told all of this, but will revert to validating "trans", which then strengthens the collapse of the binary. *sigh*
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Some of their statements on their site. If you read between the lines, it seems clear what they're hinting at. Hint: they're sexual groomers who want to normalize pedophilia.

Other materials they promote for 10-year-olds and under. You'll notice they only stress that sexual activity must be consented to. No sexual activity should be forced! No sexual activity without consent!

It may sound like safeguarding, but notice how they never say, "Actually, it doesn't matter if you consent because you're 10 or younger." It should explicitly say, "You CAN'T consent because you're a kid!" Instead, it introduces the idea that if the child consents, it's all good.
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This is sexual grooming.

Same shit. Classic weirdo groomer shit. And these materials are ALL throughout the U.S., not just in our state. The scope of the problem can't be understated. You can Google the pioneering names of "Queer Theory" like Foucalt, Rubin, etc., and many are still alive.

Many fought for age-of-consent laws to be dropped in their countries, several advocated for pedophilia, others molested/raped underage children, etc. Notably, none EVER publicly denounced pedophilia.
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Anyway, all of this is possible through the deconstruction of language. By turning meaningful, important words that represent our objective reality into "social constructs", we give these fucking lunatics the ability to overwrite and replace them with whatever.

The "transgender" movement is the master key to the children. Society has already affirmed children as "knowing who they really are" and validating their unfalsifiable (and nonsensical) "gender identity", barring any doctors, parents, or teachers from second-guessing it.

I've asked my friends how a society can affirm a little boy as truly knowing they're a little girl, but invalidate any future claim of their "internal age identity" as that of an adult. I'm told it's somehow different (it isn't) or won't happen (it is happening).
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Let's hope I'm wrong. My friends sure seem confident I'm just "anti-trans" or a "bigot" or something, despite having never shown myself to hold hateful views on marginalized folks.

Perhaps the understanding they've built from zero hours of researching this is more robust than I'm giving credit for. We shall see. Me thinks the issue is them validating something called "trans" that doesn't exist, but only time will tell.
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Either way, adults in charge of the kids "sex ed" in our state are upset not enough masturbation, BDSM, and "alternative sexualities" are being discussed (sounds like pedophilia to me). I'd be worried.
 
It's kind of sloppy and freestyled, but has some good examples for our state.
Good post — bookmarked it.
The only thing I'd differ on is the end goal of critical queer theory. I think it's arguing that the concept of sexuality is itself an oppression so optimally you'd do away with the concept of mono-sexuality altogether. Lesbians, gays, and straights are anathema because they're abiding by "heteronormative" standards. Like Marx's use of hunter-gather societies being the "precedent" for Communism working, CQT uses the anachronistic idea of ancient Greece being all "free love" as precedent for being not being "oppressed" by their sexuality because they were able to love whoever whenever basically. Though false, it doesn't stop them using it, since it's the only basis on which they can argue their point of view. It's similar to how John Money's transgender experiments are still the foundation for the belief that sex=/=gender, because "gender identity" is assigned rather than intrinsic to biology.

The intersection of all these ideas (Gender is assigned, sexuality is assigned, reality is subjective from Freud, etcetera) do more or less, at their logical extreme, argue that the earliest point you can unshackle yourself from "oppression" is childhood, ergo kids should be exposed to sexuality and gender ideology as soon as humanly possible to "free" them.

We came to the precipice of that idea being unironically defended with the whole trans kids "debate" (in quotations because you weren't allowed to oppose it near enough at all online thanks to radical censorship) and whilst it's not in the foreground anymore, the people who believe this are still out there doing God knows what.
 
Good post — bookmarked it.
I agree. The goal is "queering", so whatever is normal and expected is the oppression. I don't think there can be a singular goal since norms evolve. AOC laws are "oppressing" minors by not allowing them to experience sexual pleasure. It's not the main goal, but something that comes from the "queering" of things. Zoophilia and eating dog shit are probably in there, too. But for the normies who likely think "trans" is real and I'm a bigot, I might as well hyperfocus on the single aspect I have direct evidence for. I just want them to notice weirdos are teaching kids terms like "bug chasing" and shit. It's hard to get them to realize the power of language in this, too. I'm definitely not very well-versed in all this, either, haha. You're correct, though.
 
I don't think there can be a singular goal since norms evolve
Yeah, the premise is infinitely regressive. The concept can basically boil down to, "whatever the authority teaches you is to perpetuate the authority," meaning anything and everything that constitutes "normal" could be a product of society's rulers as a means to entrench their control. The "normal" of the 1850s, or 1910s, or the 1950s, weren't all identical. Critical Queer Theory is a product of the 90s right, so it came after homosexuality had been legalised, so they then had to cope about why/how gays are still being oppressed even when they were now generally accepted or at least tolerated, so new oppressions had to be invented out of thin air.

But their beliefs are also rooted in contradiction, since they claim to hold extreme value for education and being "enlightened" that they are of the contradictory view that the education given to us by the higher authorities is simultaneously providing us the means with which to defeat them, yet also educates us to abide by their worldview that makes us self-oppress. This all makes its way into Critical Theory from Marxism.
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Communist Manifesto, Marx & Engels.
"To this crime we plead guilty." I hate that even as far back as 18-fucking-50, that same snark of, "We only want to give you free healthcare" is still present.

This explains why they're inclined to subverting education, because they see it was a way of "rescuing" children from being influenced by the powers that be.
Critical race theory: Stop POCs from internalising racism and be at one with their blackness, stop white people from imposing "white standards" on non-whites (this is where that infamous graphic of "politeness" being a white concept came from)
Critical queer theory: Stop children from internalising heteronormativity and being obliged into being straight because of social norms, also covers gender-identity and encourages non-gender-conformity as a means of breaking this oppression.
Critical feminist theory: Stop girls from normalising societal beauty standards and accept the idea men will always put themselves and other men above you, society will always try to oppress women 24/7 so you must actively fight it all the time.

Even explaining all that feels caustic. You can do it for anything if you contrive enough shit out of thin air. Critical Theory-based ideas is basically the application of incel-logic to any given group, except more contrived. They're a pathetic strain want to become victims based on something they could fully control. Instead of trying to invent reasons for why they couldn't get sex like incels, they invented reasons why society as a whole was secretly out to get them. If incels had the foresight to have someone write up a thesis titled, "Critical Virgin Theory," and argued why society oppresses virgins and the ugly and actively makes sure this status quo is maintained, then they would've been paraded as victims instead of pariahs. Maybe might've saved a few trannies going all the way since they wouldn't have had to troon out to call themselves oppressed and have something to blame all their problems on.

One of the components to their logic why destroying social norms is moral is that baked into the underlying premise of Marxism is that all the systems and attributes we take for granted are all just ways for the powers that be to keep us under control.
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Zoophilia and eating dog shit are probably in there, too. But for the normies who likely think "trans" is real and I'm a bigot, I might as well hyperfocus on the single aspect I have direct evidence for. I just want them to notice weirdos are teaching kids terms like "bug chasing" and shit. It's hard to get them to realize the power of language in this, too. I'm definitely not very well-versed in all this, either, haha. You're correct, though.
TLDR because I've rambled enough already: Anything against the grain of normalcy is seen as a form of a rebellion, which turns acts of disgusting hedonism and depravity into moral ones because they're fighting against oppressive social norms.

That's about it, at least as far as the "intellectual" deviants are concerned.

Even in the Foucault Wikipedia page you can find an example of how he makes sadomasochistic sexual activity become virtuous.
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Bookmarked the post above. I don't have time to read just yet, but will ASAP. One of the more out in the open horrors is Drag pedagogy: The playful practice of queer imagination in early childhood where they describe exactly what they're doing. One of the creepy weirdos who wrote it also wrote this: Unscripting Curriculum: Toward a Critical Trans Pedagogy

It's so disturbing this weirdo works with children. I can't tell if this is a pooner or not. Man, I fucking HATE how infested our schools are with these cocksuckers.


Here's a good thread on some random forum with lots of left-wing grooming examples.
 
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A thread for peoppe who want to make long pontificating speeches on the left is a great idea since people have been doing that in the Kirk thread more than providing information. I think people should have an outlet for it, it's just better to have an update thread and a circlejerk thread.
 
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