Is political violence acceptable? Is it hypocritical to gravedance on tranny suicides and then get upset about gravedancing on political violence?

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ThinkThankThunk said:
Yes to both. My big turning point was earlier in the year when that kid who had trooned out jumped off the bridge. A child who was sexually groomed into pharmaceutical mutilation killing himself was met with some of the most sadistic revelry I've ever seen on the internet. On here, Xitter, the few little enclaves I orbit, wherever I fucking looked. The same thing happened when those Minnesotan politicians were killed, but I'm of the opinion that violence is part of politics - forget that NRA bullshit about guns being for shooting cans and rabbits; the second amendment enshrines the right for a citizen to use extra-judicial means to fix problems. That was the beauty of the Constitution in action. Seeing a completely unknown child victim treated like that though changed me.

I realized that not only has the system failed, but everyone who's a part of it is deranged and evil. I can't muster sympathy for people who get the boogaloos and purges they so desperately begged for.
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Remember when some boomer gunned down some climate activists and there was a huge thread filled with celebratory comments?
 
"You would mock Hasan if he got shot, so why are you upset that people mock Kirk for it?"

Yeah I'd mock Hasan all the way into the ground if he got blasted because he's a terrorist-endorsing psychopath who regularly calls for political violence against his enemies. Even if he's currently trying to tardwrangle his followers into not gravedancing an assassination he would absolutely deserve to suffer the direct consequences of his political positions. People acting like Kirk saying that (in short) "having gun rights is worth the price of elevated gun deaths" means he deserved to be shot are fucking retarded. Would you tell a woman she can't be upset about a miscarriage if she supports abortion rights? No? Then shut the fuck up, because that is an exact moral equivalent to a gun rights activist being killed by a gun. The worst thing Charlie Kirk did was being a ziocon dork and giving cluster B subhumans (read: troons) the benefit of the doubt when they didn't deserve it. It's not remotely equivalent, not to mention that he has a wife and kids, which Hasan lacks (since he's a closeted fag).

Either nut up and admit that you're glad someone you disagree with got shot because you're a totalitarian shithead, or apply some of that fabled empathy you all so love to talk about to the victims of the crime instead of grandstanding on a man's corpse to feel morally superior.
 
Being nice about the troon that jumped off the bridge isn't going to bring them back. It won't undo the grooming and molestation they endured by the pharmaceutical industry, and society at large. If you want the truth? My heart genuinely weeps for them, no kid deserves that. I guarantee you though, people mocking that suicide prevented more deaths than the last two decades of "gender affirming medical care" have.
 
Divine right to rule said:
You have to be a fucking retard to not being able to differentiate between suicides like with troons, natural deaths like with RBG, and FUCKING POLITICAL ASSASSINATION of some guy being a debatebro on campus in sight of his young children.

This is a fucking false equivalency from the beginning and faggots are trying to gaslight you, it is not even in the same universe.
The first two are tasteless, the third one is support of the dissolution of society through political violence.

Everyone making this argument is either a complete bad-faith actor or a drooling imbecile.
Fuck.
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The Republican Senator Mike Lee joked about the Democrat politicians in Minnesota when they were murdered.
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Whatevermancer said:
Political violence, gravedancing and approval of terrorists are all a-okay!
Until it's the other side that does it, in which case I will immediately clutch my pearls and go Greta Thunberg on your ass.
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Most people don't advocate political violence, only retarded spurgs. When I see a shooting, I don't cheer it on, even if it was a bunch of trannies.
 
I'm not gonna moralize and say that killing is always wrong or that grave dancing is always unjustifiable. but I think what makes the reaction to the Kirk shooting so contemptible is the disproportionate outpouring of spite against him, saying he deserved it etc. when anybody who's not completely poisoned by internet politics can see that's not true. when it comes to killing, I believe the surest justification is reciprocation. if a man kills another, he invites others to do the same to him. if the feds end up killing the shooter, nobody will grieve for him, not even the seals applauding his actions. but Charlie, retarded and annoying as he was, was not a murderer. he did not encourage others to murder on his behalf, and as far as I know, did not even promote violence of any kind. he was just a dweeby rich debate class kid. to say he deserved the agony and horror and terror of being murdered simply for being a cringe politics guy is galling and ignorant. whether political violence is justifiable generally is irrelevant here. it was obviously not justifiable in Charlie Kirk's case. to even make that argument, you have to claim a bunch of embellished or made-up shit, such as the notion that he was somehow fomenting violence against queer people by posting a gay TPUSA meme saying there are only two genders, or something. all the assholes using this as an excuse to act all giddy and claim some kind of victory desperately need some joy in their lives. and we, as a society, need to take the internet's power as a psychological hazard much more seriously.
 
Gonna be honest with you guys, as much as the "the fucker deserved it" crowd are colossal pieces of shit I still respect them more than the fucking cowards who spent years wishing that SOMETHING would happen to him and are now posting teary paragraphs about how "Violence is not the answer"
 
slungus22 said:
why do you think black babies should be aborted?
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Black women opt for elective abortions more than any other race. A black woman is twice as likely to get an abortion than a white woman. Banning abortion thereby disproportionately deprives black women of rights over her body. Her body, her choice.

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Although this chart is hard to trust because they lump no given reason and no reason together, and the institute is pro-life, the general consensus is that elective abortions are the number one reason for abortions. Thereby, it stands to reason, that black women want abortions simply because they do not want a child and do not want to engage in contraception. This means that eliminating right to choose disproporiately impacts the black woman's ability to make arbitrary decisions most of all.

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Single mothers are the unhappiest demographic of people. Forcing black women to have their babies is a contributor to black unwellness and further complicates the already dire socioeconomic situations that black americans find themselves in.

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Insert gigantic list of metrics by which fatherless children are worse off.


So when I say that black women should be allowed to have abortions, I am not forcing them to kill babies. I am giving them what they want. I am a hero.
 
Null said:
I agree that we should abort black babies but at the same time this is not considered an extreme stance for fundamentalist christians and it was not considered an extreme stance at all in living memory. It's sort of an odd thing to pick at. It's not a facet of his conservativism it is a facet of his religiosity.

The other stuff is whatever. Repealing the Civil Rights Act is less about vitriolic racism and more about freedom of association.
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Null might take Charlie Kirk place of the head of Turning Point USA. He going to do some crazy master debating on College campus.
 
I don't have strong opinions on the whole political violence thing but I gotta say I got really tired of people saying "yeah well if it was a leftist murdered YOU'd be the one grave dancing" in the original Kirk thread. Why does every thing have to be so black and white? Life is more complicated than that.

The honest to god truth is if this whole situation was reversed and it was some leftist who was gunned down I would have complete apathy. I wouldn't comment in their thread (not that I post much anyway, I prefer lurking) and honestly I doubt I'd even read more than a few pages. You can't care about every single person on the planet who is murdered. For me some leftist getting knocked off is barely any different than reading about a fatal car crash. I'd just take in the info and move on with my day. I would not be condemning it or grave dancing.
 
Null said:
Black women opt for elective abortions more than any other race. A black woman is twice as likely to get an abortion than a white woman. Banning abortion thereby disproportionately deprives black women of rights over her body. Her body, her choice.

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Although this chart is hard to trust because they lump no given reason and no reason together, and the institute is pro-life, the general consensus is that elective abortions are the number one reason for abortions. Thereby, it stands to reason, that black women want abortions simply because they do not want a child and do not want to engage in contraception. This means that eliminating right to choose disproporiately impacts the black woman's ability to make arbitrary decisions most of all.

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Single mothers are the unhappiest demographic of people. Forcing black women to have their babies is a contributor to black unwellness and further complicates the already dire socioeconomic situations that black americans find themselves in.

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Insert gigantic list of metrics by which fatherless children are worse off.


So when I say that black women should be allowed to have abortions, I am not forcing them to kill babies. I am giving them what they want. I am a hero.
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you literally just advocated for the mass killing of black babies, now you claim you're a hero for supporting abortion access for black women. those positions are logically and morally incompatible. stop trying to recast your argument you cannot defend
 
If a specific person has committed acts of violence or calls for the use of violence then yes. If that person has never been violent towards someone then no. Being snarky and annoying is not a valid excuse for someone to be killed if he never said "I think we should kill the other side".
 
Is political violence acceptable? Is it hypocritical to gravedance on tranny suicides and then get upset about gravedancing on political violence?
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You are allowed to gravedance on tranny suicides because their death was self-inflicted. And self-inflicted punishments are a common lolcow trait. For the retarded and politically inept, assassinations are not self-inflicted, contrary to what Hillary Clinton thinks.
 
slungus22 said:
you literally just advocated for the mass killing of black babies, now you claim you're a hero for supporting abortion access for black women. those positions are logically and morally incompatible. stop trying to recast your argument you cannot defend
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I'm giving them what they want.

 
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