Youtubers teetering on the edge of cowdom - Who is next to fall from grace, and why?

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This one is going to be controversial: ItsAGundam
I've had a feeling about him for a while now, but I just couldn't put it into words. Recently, I've taken to watching Josh Pescatore, his former producer, and he airs out a lot of dirty laundry between him and Gundam. The TL;DR here is that Pescatore ran a podcast called "Quality Content" and it was relatively successful.
I've seen some ItsAGundam videos over the years, he's a standard PNGtuber, what the fuck does he have a producer for?
He essentially got lucky and got a fan who works in the industry and not just knows how to make money by playing the game, but is willing to put in the work too. Gundam took him for granted and got tired of doing gay shit like "showing up to a podcast for a couple of hours to collect several thousands of dollars in superchats for pretty much no effort" and fired him so he could focus on doing what he likes, like spending more time with vtubers and getting bullied by random women, that includes his art producer(who literally calls herself "Anus").

Late to this, but was pleasantly surprised to see the Gundam/Josh Pescatore breakup from last year discussed.

I did listen to Gundam's Quality Content podcast in 2024 semi-regularly when it was airing. Then one day got curious why I hadn't seen a new episode for months, only to find a YT comment on the final episode that Gundam had pulled the plug on it without a formal announcement and to go check out Pesc's channel for details.

YT Link to 21 Quality Content pod episodes playlist - Looks like the final episode was June 19th, 2024

Josh Pescatore is a behind-the-scenes YT guy who at one point worked for Keemstar at Drama Alert. He's an interesting character himself. He claims he's independently wealthy because his family received a huge settlement from the United Fruit Company (modern day Del Monte?) because they were paying off South American mercenaries protection money who ended up murdering Josh's dad who was doing surveying near their territory.

So Pescatore doesn't work, he dabbles in real estate, lives in Florida, etc.

Pescatore originally met Gundam in the capacity of offering financial advisor advice for his fucked up situation with his family, etc. Somehow this relationship grew into a professional one where Gundam & Pescatore launched a new podcast called Quality Content.

Pescatore did all the behind-the-scenes work as well as appearing as sidekick introducing all the lolcow topics he researched. Gundam did zero show prep and was tasked with simply showing up for 2-3 hours once a week.

Pesc would gather all the lolcow topics, but Gundam was mostly disinterested in his own show. He'd mostly reject the lolcow topics presented, try to rush through the show to get it over with faster, show up high & occasionally pass out live on air pillstream fashion behind his avatar, etc.

They did a few dozen episodes with some decent guests like Kirsche. Pesc revealed later that the show was grossing something like 3-5k/month in superchats. His monthly cut for producing the weekly show was about $800/month.

Supposedly Gundam was completely disinterested in the show itself & ungrateful for the relative overnight success of the superchat monies coming in. The only thing he cared about were the viewership numbers for his podcast that were much lower than old scripted videos. And apparently he was obsessed that his podcast viewership was below some of the other creators in the space that he thought he was better than.

Eventually, Gundam approached Pesc one day in Spring 2024 saying the pod was over & Josh was fired because he wanted the extra $800/mth for himself. He had a tentative proposal to start a new pod with Kirsche with an offer from CecilSays to produce for free, assuming the same revenue would continue and he would pocket the extra $800. No public announcement was made with the old pod ending. I'm assuming the new pod never happened, though I don't follow Gundam anymore to confirm. Edit - Looks like Gundam did start a new podcast called "On the Fringe" running 17 episodes from Nov'24 to Apr'25. Not sure if either Kirsche or CecilSays was involved.

Part of the pressure to claw more revenue is because Gundam is scared to say No to women around him. He gave complete control of his Merch store & proceeds to some peripheral artist Anus who he fears could someday claim IP rights because she at one point contributed art assets to his well-known avatar.

Pescatore did an hours long stream in the Summer of 2024 explaining all the internal strife. But it's not well known because his YT channel is small, it's hours long and it's very niche inside baseball.

Edit: After Content #1 - June 26th, 2024 - 2 1/2 hour stream where Pesc describes the Gundam breakup in detail

Pescatore claimed that he himself was a YT producer genius of sorts given his experience with Keemstar & Gundam. So he started streaming on his own small channel.

But he streamed infrequently to live audiences of 100-200, which dwindled with time as his schedule became more erratic.

He paid some SEA artist 1k to design his own Vtuber avatar. And despite constantly talking about his wealth, he pitched that his small audience over time would have to contribute to purchasing new upgrades to his Vtuber setup. He tended to cover similar trending lolcow topics like DSP, etc.

I did like his solo content, but I also think he got humbled that "Mr. YT producer genius" couldn't pull in a substantive streaming audience on his own. His streaming became more & more erratic. He sometimes would tease a stream then not show up at all. He had endless excuses that he was moving, had taken down his streaming setup, was setting up a new kickass rich boi entertainment room, etc. Then one day about 5 months back, he simply stopped streaming altogether.

Edit: Pescatore Live YT channel - Last stream March 19th, 2025 with under 700 views, 7k subs.

I checked out his X account the other day where he's still alive and posting about lolcow content with essentially no engagement.

Pesc's X account
Ghost archive
 
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Meat Canyon/Papa Meat. He recently came out as a supporter of Hasan in the H3/Hasan retard wars, so...yeah. Anyone who sides with Hasan, has a terminal case of libsh!t-itis. It's only a matter of time before Papa Meat's content becomes "America sucks, white people are evil" generic Breadtube-slop.
I know that Papa Meat loves to use terms like "incel, red-piller, black-piller, etc" for mundane ass things. He comes across as like the typical white knight that always has to defend wahman and shit on men who even think about criticizing a woman for doing something cringeworthy.
 
I know that Papa Meat loves to use terms like "incel, red-piller, black-piller, etc" for mundane ass things. He comes across as like the typical white knight that always has to defend wahman and shit on men who even think about criticizing a woman for doing something cringeworthy.
My favorite part about MeatCanyon was that he made a whole video about how tradwives are bad yet his wife is one of the most cottagecore tradwives who yknow, actually farms and does traditional woman stuff instead of just playing pretend and has an entire aesthetic vloggy type channel where she talks about homesteading and animal husbandry.

Like this guy wants to lib out but like, why??? Hes living the american dream already why bother hating what hes got when it's going good for him. Hes got the farm, a good wife, good pets, successful business. Cmon man. Don't fuck it up for a crumb of retard arab clout.
 
My favorite part about MeatCanyon was that he made a whole video about how tradwives are bad yet his wife is one of the most cottagecore tradwives who yknow, actually farms and does traditional woman stuff instead of just playing pretend and has an entire aesthetic vloggy type channel where she talks about homesteading and animal husbandry.

Like this guy wants to lib out but like, why??? Hes living the american dream already why bother hating what hes got when it's going good for him. Hes got the farm, a good wife, good pets, successful business. Cmon man. Don't fuck it up for a crumb of retard arab clout.
He's entertaining but god DAMN is he a fucking retard. The only reason I watch him is because I listen to CreepCast with him and Wendigoon.
 
I feel like MeatCanyon doesn't really, truly believe those things and is just saying it due to his upbringing and living around super liberal circles like animation and art school. He says tons of edgy things, makes offensive jokes and says retard alot.

He also seems to know way too much about niche cultures and the internet. One thing that really clued me in on that and gave me a bunch of respect for him is in multiple videos he wears a Killdozer memorial shirt with the guys real face and name on it. If you don't know what the Killdozer was or the guy behind it well, look it up. He's not someone a "normie" or SJW would wear a t-shirt in remembrance of. I think he's just trying to thread the needle and make the most money he can on YouTube, personally.
 
Like this guy wants to lib out but like, why??? Hes living the american dream already why bother hating what hes got when it's going good for him. Hes got the farm, a good wife, good pets, successful business. Cmon man. Don't fuck it up for a crumb of retard arab clout.
White people lib out precisely because they don't know what they've got and how hard it was to get there.
 
I used to watch Solar a bit. I liked when he critiqued people's deviantart when they asked for it. Or when they were prominant.
Too bad he's drank the fucking essayist slop
Not to derail this thread, but I remember vegans stating something like "cows are forced to get pregnant and give milk" which always had me like "jeez, I forgot how in the wild cows are able to choose a career instead!"
 
What about Gothix?
She's just a middling anti-woke youtuber but I remember when I saw a few of her videos awhile back she was talking about how she has her own documentary and shilling for others to hear her story like she was a household name and not just some low-mid tier youtuber.
Not deserving of a thread now, but when you take yourself that stone cold seriously you probably will be some day.
 
Meat Canyon wont make content with JonTron out of fear of Jon's Destiny debate, but happily worked with FlashGitz for years, who were and somewhat still are right wing edgy. Make it make sense.
 
Meat Canyon wont make content with JonTron out of fear of Jon's Destiny debate, but happily worked with FlashGitz for years, who were and somewhat still are right wing edgy. Make it make sense.
Cream Crew was the best podcast until Hunter started getting stupid on it and making it almost intentionally awkward and difficult to listen to. Stopped listening and next thing I know it just stops and I don't see Hunter ever talk about the FlashGitz guys ever. I'm genuinely curious what happened because they all like, bought an office and moved to the states and roomed together and it just seems like a weird fever memory I have now.
 
how i imagine kiwifarmers in this thread betting on the next lolcow
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I have a good example of a teetering cow. His channel used to be called "Localscriptman", and he mostly uploaded videos on creative writing techniques with an emphasis on using enneagrams to write characters, they were generally useful, coherent, and intelligent.

Well he appears to have gone to LA, "didn't have a great time there", and returned to his hometown of Cincinatti. Found Christ, became a rapper, went homeless (not sure what order). Unlisted most of his writing advice videos. Only uploads 1-3 minute long monologues, usually in public places, looks like he's aged 15-20 years in the span of a few months, ranging from schizophrenic ramblings to being rude to hotel staff. Clearly having some kind of manic episode, very "zoomer grindset" meets "trad awakening".

His channel
One of his rap videos
Rambling incoherently at a Chick-fil-A with eyes full of sorrow
Example of his old video content
Example of one of his old writing resources

Some comments suggest he went to LA to pitch a Star Wars-related script, risked everything to move to Hollywood, it fell through and this is the resulting spiral. Others are still coping that this is all just some sort of ARG/bit due to his writing talents, which would make me look very foolish, but that's why I posted this here and not in prospering grounds.

edit: looks like a couple kiwis beat me to it in other threads
 
He's entertaining but god DAMN is he a fucking retard. The only reason I watch him is because I listen to CreepCast with him and Wendigoon.

Papa Meat's recent story about getting scammed out of thousands by a contractor he hired to build his wife a horse barn really cemented in me that he's dumb as rocks. The way he described it, it sounded like he found some rando on Craigslist & just handed them thousands in cash over the course of months without seeing much progress. He talked about how he learned to hire legit contractors who use architects to sketch up blueprints & have insurance/etc.

Like, he previously hired a contractor to build a barn, and at no point asked to see the blueprints? 😵‍💫As a horse girl, the story made me angry - the blueprint-less barn (which was partially build & he had to tear down) could have collapsed on his wife's horses!

This meatcanyon guy is definitely going to be in a open relationship a year from now, whether he knows about it or not.

His wife gives me "Midwest Christian lesbian in the closet" vibes. They often marry a fat gross well off dude way below them in the looks department, but spend the whole marriage fucking other women on the side.
 
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His wife gives me "Midwest Christian lesbian in the closet" vibes. They often marry a fat gross well off dude way below them in the looks department, but spend the whole marriage fucking other women on the side.
That so ubiquitous that it has a vibe associated with it?
 
That so ubiquitous that it has a vibe associated with it?
Yes. "Horse girl" is practically church code for "lesbian" in the midwest (or at least in Oklahoma).

Source: me, a lesbian/horse girl. It's a hobby full of lesbians - I guess since it takes up a lot of time, so it's generally a good wholesome excuse for not dating in high school/spending time with guys, like most teenage girls. It's similar for gay men and being into cowboy/ranching culture.
 
There's a certain king of mindset required to seek e-fame, sort of like how CEOs are disproportionately likely to have something like ASPD.
The question boils down to when they'll develop into cows, not if.
 
Cream Crew was the best podcast until Hunter started getting stupid on it and making it almost intentionally awkward and difficult to listen to. Stopped listening and next thing I know it just stops and I don't see Hunter ever talk about the FlashGitz guys ever. I'm genuinely curious what happened because they all like, bought an office and moved to the states and roomed together and it just seems like a weird fever memory I have now.
Forgot to reply to this. I thought PapaMeat moved away from them after Redditors (being Redditors) targeted Flashgitz for being "racist" for some cholo Pokemon video?

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Meat Canyon/Papa Meat. He recently came out as a supporter of Hasan in the H3/Hasan retard wars, so...yeah. Anyone who sides with Hasan, has a terminal case of libsh!t-itis. It's only a matter of time before Papa Meat's content becomes "America sucks, white people are evil" generic Breadtube-slop.
This is so disappointing for me as a former fan of MeatCanyon's animations. I have watched him since the early uploads. RIP
Very sad, the weekly slop videos he makes are the only ones I can tolerate tbh, I have no idea why he would even chose a side.
I stopped watching after he went full slop tuber. I had already tuned out before, but that was the last straw.
 
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