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Should be a wild four years.

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Catch The Rainbow said:
BREAKING\: Rep\. Thomas Massie just dropped a bomb\.

He named one of the billionaires in Epstein’s black book, John Paulson\.

Paulson isn’t just some rich guy\. He’s a major GOP donor, pumping money into the Republican Party, the Speaker of the House, and Trump’s campaign\. And Epstein kept his name in his little black book\.

Let that sink in\. The same billionaire who bankrolls the party, bankrolls the Speaker of the house, bankrolls Trump, is on the Epstein’s list\.


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Paulson has been known about since 2019. Massie only dropped the name because he's funding primary competitor for his seat
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See, I think shit like this is why Trump was always hesitant about the Epstein stuff. Sure, Paulson's name is in Epstein's book, but what's the context? Were they just people who rolled in the same circles? Was it just contact information? Is there any evidence Paulson was involved with fucking underaged girls? This fucking grandstanding faggot knows there's retards who will go off on just the implication Fucking Libertarians, bigger faggots than the Log Cabin Republicans.
 
Myrtle the Turtle said:
Massies a faggot, but if Epstein book overturns Citizens United indirectly, would that be such a bad thing? Purging the uniparty money and exposing the shadow power holders seems like a good thing.
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Reminder that in FEC vs Citizens United, the Obama administration was arguing that a movie that made Hillary Clinton look bad wasn't protected by the First Amendment, since it wasn't produced by a lone individual, and therefore they could put the people who did produce it in jail. The provisions of McCain-Feingold they were defending had done jack and shit to end "dark money," by the way.

I want you to imagine what the downstream effects would have been if the Court had agreed with the government, and if you really think it would have "purged uniparty money" and "exposed shadow power holders" rather than "put everyone who openly criticized the uniparty in jail."
 
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boeing is hiring scabs in st louis because the union rejected the deal. this is the defense wing of boeing with the fighter jets. I wonder if the defense planes will start seeing the same problems as the civilians ones.

and the DOJ is pressing forward with its investigation of fed governor lisa cook. her crime is mortgage fruad and looks to be the same type of crime as trump's nyc case, which is nothing doing. There's a few tears about this being political retribution but turnabout is fair play.
 
Catch The Rainbow said:
Then why isn't she disputing the role of the Russians and trying to minimize their role?
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The DOJ already said there was no collusion. The Russians? She doesn't fucking know anything. They might be RT. They might not be. Everyone had their visas revoked, and nobody has talked to them. Not TENCENT, not the Feds. You think two Russians the Feds are accusing of attempting to racketeer American media would ever speak with these people again? Fuck no. Even if they weren't Russian agents, it's not good legal advice. We can't prove TENCENT took money from Russians. We can't prove TENCENT even made a significant deal with the Russians. We don't know anything about what actually happened.

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I wouldn't call actively colluding with the Russians being a victim
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Well, let's play devil's advocate. According to the indictment, these Russians pretended to be investors, making a clean deal. Used fake bios, fake social media, and fake credentials to seem legitimate. Their companies passed every background check and credit check in order to make a contractual transaction. Probably had a good rating in the Better Business Bureau. How does that not make TENCENT victims if they're Russian assets who were provided fake credentials by the Russian government to pretend to be legitimate businessmen?

Let's take it one step further. If I'm a Russian spy do you think I go to a media company and say "We're going to pay you X amount of money to run Pro Russian news"? Fuck no. What a good spy would do, is find a media outlet who already says the things I want them to say and funnel money into them. I go in and I say something along the lines of:

"We love your take on news around the world and we would like to see an expansion of your international news coverage."

Which is then met with:

"Oh well that's great. We have two news stories on the Russo-Ukraine war coming tomorrow from X and Y."

"Oh wonderful, good to hear. Here's your signed contract and money".

Do you understand now, why this situation was so fucked?

Edit: Here's a better fanfiction - How long did the FBI know these two were running around planning to do this? Is it possible they could've stopped them before they reached out to TENCENT? Or did the FBI sit and wait knowing they'd choose someone the Russians believe already pander their talking points, so that Merrick Garland could not just slam two spies, but also smear, raid, arrest, debank, and ultimately silence whatever media group they chose to try to use? Is that why the Biden DOJ was so keen on not following up on this despite both TENCENTs and Tim Pool's requests for more information on the Russian agents?
 
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Rimanah said:
Those who are acting in good faith (which is a dwindling population these days) want the hypothetical list that shows all the clients, all their victims, all their crimes, etc.
The problem though is that such a list has always been hypothetical, at least to my knowledge. Meaning that some people are mad over something which may not even exist.
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More than being just hypothetical, I believe the idea of an Epstein list was specifically engineered and disseminated to mislead and demoralize the public.
spiritofamermaid said:
Someone mentioned that people conflate Epstein and Podesta stuff, giving the former the latter's offenses, and I think that's true. When you remember what Epstein actually did, all the hype and hatred to Epstein is lessened. I am not minimizing his crimes in any way, but to me that makes the most sense. Imagining a guy doing Podesta-level stuff and then being murdered in prison (and the murder covered up), you'd definitely want everything to be exposed and released.
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I've definitely talked about it, but not that owns are conflating it, but that the Podesta shit was successful buried under Epstein liking to bang underaged teens.
Catch The Rainbow said:
BREAKING\: Rep\. Thomas Massie just dropped a bomb\.

He named one of the billionaires in Epstein’s black book, John Paulson\.

Paulson isn’t just some rich guy\. He’s a major GOP donor, pumping money into the Republican Party, the Speaker of the House, and Trump’s campaign\. And Epstein kept his name in his little black book\.

Let that sink in\. The same billionaire who bankrolls the party, bankrolls the Speaker of the house, bankrolls Trump, is on the Epstein’s list\.


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Paulson has been known about since 2019. Massie only dropped the name because he's funding primary competitor for his seat
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Massie has never worked as hard for any conservative or libertarian ideal as he has to fuck over his own party. I really fucking hate the man. I'd rather break bread with my enemy than a traitor.

Epstein's contact book has been public for something like 10 years. It was one of the first things Trump released, before even Pam Bondi's Phase One debacle. It's where his name is in the files, along with hundreds of others.

It's probably the closest thing to a list that exists, but it's literally just phone numbers and addresses of people he knew. There probably no client list, and even if Epstein trafficked women to associates, something there has never been evidence of, being on his contact list is far from incriminating. Epstein spent a lot of money to rub shoulders with the rich and famous, he's probably more of a star fucker than a diddler. He through a lot of large public parties that were to large and public to be illicit sex operations. Even assuming the worst about Epstein, the majority on that black book are probably gonna be innocent.

Do I think Barbara Walters was fingering kids on her documented flights on Epstein's plane?

Yeah, a little, for my sense of spite.

But I definitely don't believe it anywhere near enough to go full self destruction over the one politician turning the tide against destroying my country when they say that if she did, Epstein didn't keep any evidence of it.
 
Party Hat Wurmple said:
Let's take it one step further. If I'm a Russian spy do you think I go to a media company and say "We're going to pay you X amount of money to run Pro Russian news"? Fuck no. What a good spy would do, is find a media outlet who already says the things I want them to say and funnel money into them.
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Another side effect of the jews blocking anyone right wing from processing payments. It limits the money making options of anyone to the right of Mitch McConnel and makes them vulnerable to this kind of thing. Really the sperging about it is just the left/jews being mad they cant defund people they don't like. I wonder how much of the crypto Null gets is from Russia?
 
Interesting that the Kamala voter holdouts don't have a problem with her being totally silent about all this stuff they're mad about. You'd really think she'd be on the news every day trying to rally her base against the vile orange man the way they talk about her.
 
oh no its pipkun said:
boeing is hiring scabs in st louis because the union rejected the deal. this is the defense wing of boeing with the fighter jets. I wonder if the defense planes will start seeing the same problems as the civilians ones.
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The 737 Max is manufactured in Seattle, which is a union shop.

Union doesn’t mean quality.
 
quaawaa said:
The 737 Max is manufactured in Seattle, which is a union shop.

Union doesn’t mean quality.
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I motherfucking hate unions, but all of the MAX problems I'm aware of were designed in. It's actually a jeet problem.
 
Fuck Fags I'm A Homophobe said:
here's what I wondered, didn't both water fountains have cool water?

Also, why exactly did people give a shit what water fountain you drink from? I know we're racist here but that's ass backwards
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Based on many (I can personally attest to at least a few hundred) people's experience in the public school system its probably because they kept breaking them.
 
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