Musk's xAI sues engineer for allegedly taking secrets to OpenAI

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Featured on Aug 30, 2025 by Null: Elon Musk's Chinese "elite human capital" dumped $7m of xAI stock before stealing the entire xAI codebase, according to lawsuit filed.

Aug 29 (Reuters) - Elon Musk's artificial intelligence startup xAI has sued a former engineer at the company for allegedly stealing trade secrets related to its Grok chatbot and taking them to rival OpenAI.

Musk's company said in the complaint filed on Thursday in California federal court that Xuechen Li stole confidential information related to "cutting-edge AI technologies with features superior to those offered by ChatGPT" to bring to his new job at OpenAI earlier this month.

Li, representatives of OpenAI and attorneys and spokespersons for xAI did not immediately respond to requests for comment on Friday. OpenAI is not a defendant.

The complaint underscores the rivalry between Musk's company and OpenAI and a fierce battle among tech companies for AI talent.

Musk, an OpenAI co-founder, has separately sued the company and its CEO, Sam Altman, for allegedly deviating from its original mission to benefit humanity. OpenAI countersued Musk in April for harassment.

Musk's xAI filed another lawsuit against OpenAI and Apple (AAPL.O) in Texas on Monday for allegedly monopolizing the market for AI chatbots on Apple devices.

The new lawsuit said Li began working as an engineer for xAI last year, where he helped train and develop Grok. The company said Li took its trade secrets in July, shortly after accepting a job from OpenAI and selling $7 million in xAI stock.

Musk's startup said that the secrets could allow OpenAI to bolster ChatGPT with xAI's "more innovative AI and imaginative features."

The lawsuit said Li admitted to stealing company files and "covering his tracks" during a meeting on August 14, and that the company later found additional stolen material on his devices that he had not disclosed.

Musk's AI company asked the court for an unspecified amount of monetary damages and a restraining order blocking Li's move to OpenAI.
 
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Whiskey said:
I was wondering about that... realistically ai as it stands seems to me a slightly more refined search engine. I imagine it's near useless if you are trying to do anything novel but it cuts down drastically on routine coding?

I can understand that. A nail gun doesn't do anything a hammer doesnt. Till you have 10,000 nails to drive in on a dozen floors.
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Or the Cotton Gin. Instead of taking a legion of niggers to clean and separate cotton, you just need a few to operate the machine. Suddenly one man becomes a fucking army. AI is literally the industrial revolution for Code Jockeys.
 
WelperHelper99 said:
Or the Cotton Gin. Instead of taking a legion of niggers to clean and separate cotton, you just need a few to operate the machine. Suddenly one man becomes a fucking army. AI is literally the industrial revolution for Code Jockeys.
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well, this is just 7th grade history class, but didn't the slave trade massively increase after the Cotton Gin was invented? Or do I have that misremebered.
 
invisibult plus+ said:
Not the first time Musk got fucked by the chinks. Stockholm Syndrome having retard.
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Most Chinese EVs are bootleg Teslas built using IP stolen from Tesla’s Shanghai factory. The few that aren’t were designed by GM thanks to their braindead joint venture with SAIC. Without Musk being a fool, the Chinese EV sector would not exist.

That’s why I laugh at all the Wumao spam saying that Chinese EVs are superior and Western automakers are doomed. If they were, Teslas would not still be bestsellers in China.

China is also currently building a knockoff version of Starlink. I wonder where they got the know-how for that from…
 
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Imagine gibbering with rage on behalf of billion dollar corporations working to automate away the remains of the middle class.

Plus the article has literally zero details. This could be an actual copy-paste operation like Levandowski with Google/Uber. Or it could be a total nothing burger like Carmack with ZeniMax/Oculus.

Either way, siding with the corpos is retarded.
 
Gamergate Retiree said:
well, this is just 7th grade history class, but didn't the slave trade massively increase after the Cotton Gin was invented? Or do I have that misremebered.
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It did, but in that case, more cotton needed to be picked. This case, while you could do that, if you wanted to scale back costs while maintaining the same level of productivity, you lay off half the staff. It depends on a company by company basis.
 
Null said:
That's not how it works.

Basically you write some code and it predicts the next thing you want to do. It can be very, very, very good at this. It can dump out an entire function based on the name. If you write the name, input parameters, and the output type (like with Rust), that function footprint will result in an entire function that is often written as well as a human could. However, with super popular languages (like JS) it is just so unbelievably well fed with source material it can do anything.

If you already understand the language and can audit the code as it comes out, it is just free productivity. I have always struggled to remember funciton names and paradigms and have had to flip back and forth between documentation my entire life. This shit lets me be like 20x more productive when I get into it.
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This. The thing is though that you MUST be knowledgeable in what the code it's writing actually does. It will write the code you want, and it may function, but will it be secure? This is how incidents like the Tea app leak or DrawAFish exploits happen.

And even then there are times it can make mistakes, especially in less know languages. I've had it make syntax mistakes when using it to create bash scripts, and I had to correct it. Nonetheless though, it is amazing when it comes to increasing the productivity of people who already know how to code, and those know know how to harness it.
 
Wooks wike Ewon gaht pwayed again. Ewite humon capital, Musk. Bwong.

Stupid fucking faggot. Looks good on ya and your White American worker hating ways, dickhead.
 
Well Musk.
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DarkSonicPhil said:
Reminder that many of your Social Security numbers were accessed and copied by Musk appointees lmao
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They were already leaked in the Experian hack.

SSN is a nine digit number with no security that already has to reissue numbers invented to ID every American by a crippled communist demon currently burning in hell
 
"Let's hire a Chinese citizen to work on one of the most sensitive and cutthroat technology fields in the world. Surely this isn't going to come back and bite us in the ass."

I bet the fucker also uploaded a copy of all the stolen code directly to a CCP server. Literally every single one of these backstabbing bastards, either willingly or through coercion, have full allegiance to their homeland's government.
 
Fuck it, good for the chinks, man. Honestly, they couldn't be more openly brazen about how they'll lie and steal to get what they want, so the fact that they're still capable of conning rich, gullible niggers despite their reputation is just frankly amazing. Admirable yellow gook W.
 
Gamergate Retiree said:
well, this is just 7th grade history class, but didn't the slave trade massively increase after the Cotton Gin was invented? Or do I have that misremebered.
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Breeding and selling did, yes. Many, including several slave owning founding fathers, assumed it was on the way out because it wasn't as profitable as it had once been. The soil had been stripped by tobacco crops and wasn't producing the yields it once had, along with Scottish immigrants setting up farms creating additional competition and lowering profits.

Cotton had been considered too labor intensive on account of all them seeds. The cotton gin solved that problem. Eli Whitney had patented the device but many southerns just copied the fairly simple design and made their own royalty free so Eli also got burned.

But the Atlantic slave trade had ended by this time, mainly because European powers had outlawed it. It still occurred between North and South American slaves but what happened then was the surviving "stock" of human chattel was forced to breed more slaves. This is why this era led to the common tale of families being broken up, children niglets torn from their mothers at auctions, etc. Probably didn't sit well with the Puritan types who would later push abolition.

Campbell_Trio said:
Get ready for Elon's next gambit where he invites an Iranian scientist to work on America's nuclear power grid.
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Why stop there. Maybe we should arrange an information exchange with South Korea regarding their nuclear weapons program. I mean they achieved a function bomb for way less than America spent developing it 80 years ago, maybe they've discovered some incredible technology we've overlooked?!?
 
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